Jaguars sign veteran cornerback Aaron Glenn

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baj1dallas;1620061 said:
What have Reeves or Jones ever done? Neither has ever been the player Glenn is now, forget what he was.

Neither has ever had the oppurtunity until now. I'll take Reeves size, speed, and youth over a limitted Glenn any day and I liked Glenn.
 

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baj1dallas;1620061 said:
What have Reeves or Jones ever done? Neither has ever been the player Glenn is now, forget what he was.

well it looks like we'll get to see if that is indeed the case 1st hand, huh? but since wade has a great reputation for building a good defense, i'll take him at his word that reeves or jones can do better than glenn.

regardless of how it upsets some fans.
 

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WR17;1619938 said:
Good to see that you had nothing to say because you know what I said is right. Have fun trying to create "pressure" to save your putrid secondary. Phillips has half the talent in Dallas in comparison to what he worked with in San Diego.

You guys are in for a rude awakening. Replacing a HOF coach with a career retread doesn't mean playoffs.

Would you say Baltimore had a good defense last year?

How about Chicago?

How about San Diego?

Those three teams rely upon creating pressure to make their defenses work. We hired Wade to do the same thing. Whether or not it happens this year, yes, remains to be seen.

But what we do know, is your team, chose to address its secondary while not addressing the pass rush.

Odd that many of the elite defense have a great pass rush. Yet, the Skins don't. Guess Gibbs must "be ahead of the pack" on this one.

Spin that.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1620051 said:
well Henry is healthy now



we have a pass-rush, so our corners don't have to be all-world
won't believe that until I see it.
 

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baj1dallas;1620061 said:
What have Reeves or Jones ever done? Neither has ever been the player Glenn is now, forget what he was.

I ask you what player has done anything before they were given a chance to play on a regular basis? Come'on give me a break!

I got news for you most of the players that end up being starters on NFL teams aren't 1st round draft picks and don't have a long petigree of stardom. But one day the guy starting in front of them gets hurt, retires or leaves via FA and wha-la! We have a new starter-- a new starter without a track record.

I've got more news for you. Even in his prime Glenn wasn't considered a top-10 CB in the NFL. The larger, stronger Buffalo Bill WR's would consistently eat his lunch. And trust me at age 35 he hasn't improved any.
 

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WoodysGirl;1620067 said:
won't believe that until I see it.

FWIW, we have seen Bradie James getting pressure on the QB in this scheme. He who hasnt sniffed the QB since his time at LSU.
 

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WoodysGirl;1620067 said:
won't believe that until I see it.

WG...it was the scheme failing every december, only to suddenly be effective again the following fall...not the players. Don't you pay attention?

You must have been reading some other board for the past 6 months.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1620069 said:
I ask you what player has done anything before they were given a chance to play on a regular basis? Come'on give me a break!

I got news for you most of the players that end up being starters on NFL teams aren't 1st round draft picks and don't have a long petigree of stardom. But one day the guy starting in front of them gets hurt, retires or leaves via FA and wha-la! We have a new starter-- a new starter without a track record.

I've got more news for you. Even in his prime Glenn wasn't considered a top-10 CB in the NFL. The larger, stronger Buffalo Bill WR's would consistently eat his lunch. And trust me at age 35 he hasn't improved any.

I think this really the issue. Outside of him reacting well to that comeback route Glenn has done little to nothing all off season. He was getting beat like a drum and made one decent play. Phillips ulimately decided that Reeves and Jones were better than Glenn at this point in there respective careers.
 

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superpunk;1620075 said:
WG...it was the scheme failing every december, only to suddenly be effective again the following fall...not the players. Don't you pay attention?

You must have been reading some other board for the past 6 months.
I'm pretty sure people were complaining about a lack of pressure early on in '05 and '06.
 

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theogt;1620085 said:
I'm pretty sure people were complaining about a lack of pressure early on in '05 and '06.

But they had no point, except that they wanted the cat skinned differently. Which is really no point at all.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1620074 said:
FWIW, we have seen Bradie James getting pressure on the QB in this scheme. He who hasnt sniffed the QB since his time at LSU.
Yep, we have...in preseason. Again, I'll just wait until I see it from more than the one or two players. It needs to be a bit more consistent.
superpunk;1620075 said:
WG...it was the scheme failing every december, only to suddenly be effective again the following fall...not the players. Don't you pay attention?

You must have been reading some other board for the past 6 months.
My bad. That darn skepticism tends to get in the way of my sometimes blind faith.
 

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superpunk;1620089 said:
But they had no point, except that they wanted the cat skinned differently. Which is really no point at all.
I'm not sure I understand. They were complaining that the cat was not being skinned.
 

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theogt;1620094 said:
I'm not sure I understand. They were complaining that the cat was not being skinned.
In the metaphor, the cat is an elite-functioning defensive unit. Maybe that helps?
 

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superpunk;1620102 said:
In the metaphor, the cat is an elite-functioning defensive unit. Maybe that helps?
Well that cat certainly didn't get skinned last year. You can't take Parcells's scheme and accept only the good. The bad games toward the end were the result of the same scheme run in the early games. When people find your weaknesses and you don't change, the scheme doesn't work.
 

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theogt;1620116 said:
Well that cat certainly didn't get skinned last year. You can't take Parcells's scheme and accept only the good. The bad games toward the end were the result of the same scheme run in the early games. When people find your weaknesses and you don't change, the scheme doesn't work.


Didn't Jax do that week one; dump off passes underneath to their backs and succeed in doing so?
 

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Vintage;1620117 said:
Didn't Jax do that week one; dump off passes underneath to their backs and succeed in doing so?
Teams periodically played off our weaknesses throughout the year. For some reason they didn't do it on a constant basis until New Orleans showed them that you can do it play after play after play after play and we wouldn't change.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1619633 said:
If this year goes up in smoke... Jerry Jones should hire a freakin' GM!

Most of the last ten years have gone up in smoke and he hasn't hired a real GM. I doubt releasing Glenn and having him sign with the Jags will be the turning point for him.
 

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theogt;1620116 said:
Well that cat certainly didn't get skinned last year. You can't take Parcells's scheme and accept only the good. The bad games toward the end were the result of the same scheme run in the early games. When people find your weaknesses and you don't change, the scheme doesn't work.
The same thing happened every year. The "scheme failed" every december...only to rise like a pheonix the following september when offensive coordinators around the league got amnesia.

You can skin the cat all sorts of different ways. If you don't get the point, go back and re-read the dialogue.
 

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superpunk;1620129 said:
The same thing happened every year. The "scheme failed" every december...only to rise like a pheonix the following september when offensive coordinators around the league got amnesia.

You can skin the cat all sorts of different ways. If you don't get the point, go back and re-read the dialogue.
We'll see what happens. But I can't agree that Parcells ever skinned the cat.
 

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theogt;1620137 said:
We'll see what happens. But I can't agree that Parcells ever skinned the cat.

Niether can I.

Mike Zimmer was our defensive coordinator, you crazy kid.
 
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