Jamaal Brown's hip not looking good....

[SkinsHokieFan]

Another bad part for that team is they have already traded next years 3nd and 4rd round draft picks I believe.

3rd is gone for McNabb, 4th is basically a swap (moved down to the 6th for Jammal Brown)

Rght now as it stands Commanders have a 1, 2, 5, 6, 6, 7

 

[1fisher]

3rd is gone for McNabb, 4th is basically a swap (moved down to the 6th for Jammal Brown)

Rght now as it stands Commanders have a 1, 2, 5, 6, 6, 7

Those will most likely be traded away LONG before the draft...

 

[UnoDallas]

I am glad Jerry did not trade for him

I think we did fine with Barron - Barbie trade

 

[theebs]

3rd is gone for McNabb, 4th is basically a swap (moved down to the 6th for Jammal Brown)

Rght now as it stands Commanders have a 1, 2, 5, 6, 6, 7

Looks like exactly what the jets will ask for when revis becomes available.

If there is one thing shanahan will do its chase defensive players from other teams....

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[SaltwaterServr]

Snyder wasn't even around Commanders park this summer.

Rigggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht.

Tell us another one. Like how Haynesworth didn't participate in the OTA's and minicamps because he was objecting going to the defensive end in the 3-4 which had nothing to do with his concerns over the nose tackle position.

Wait, what's that you say Coach Shanahan? Haynesworth is getting most of his reps as the #2 NT because he has to earn the starting job at NT?

 

[dmq]

Time for Commander fans to tap the breaks on Jamaal.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Rigggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht.

Tell us another one. Like how Haynesworth didn't participate in the OTA's and minicamps because he was objecting going to the defensive end in the 3-4 which had nothing to do with his concerns over the nose tackle position.

Wait, what's that you say Coach Shanahan? Haynesworth is getting most of his reps as the #2 NT because he has to earn the starting job at NT?

You remind of a very good friend of mine. Great friend, just not so bright, and when you try and actually discuss things with him he goes into a completely different tangent that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

So lets set a ground rule. Stick to the topic here. And Fat Al has been practicing all over the line, and I have no clue where you are getting that he objected to playing RDE.

In fact, he seems to like the scheme.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/3-4-defense/frustration-with-haynesworth-m.html

And in a twist of irony, Haynesworth actually likes the new defense and Haslett's plans for him in the scheme. Haynesworth's concern about the unknown, in large part, prompted him to stay away from Ashburn for most of the offseason, resulting in the current situation.

Now thats settled, lets look at what your fellow Cowboy fans thought of this trade for Jammal Brown.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186346&highlight=Brown

wow. That's a solid move.

This sucks. I was just about to start a thread about how miserable it must be to be a Redsucks fan right. And how snake bit is that franchise has been.

Now it looks like they may have killed two birds with one stone here.

Although I do believe they have to eat the 21 mil they just gave Haynesworth. To bad there's no cap this year. It would have made the trade very difficult.

Steal

Damnit! :bang2:

Good move by the Commanders getting a Quality O-lineman.

Great move by the Commanders if you ask me...

The Skins will be a better club with Brown.

That certainly is a good deal for the Commanders.They get a Pro Bowl caliber LT for a a couple of mid to late round picks.Yeah Brown is coming off a year where he sat due to an injury, but that injury isn't one that is considered a career changer/ender.Plus he's in the prime years of his career.Too bad the timing didn't match up. Makes me wonder if the Cowboys would have had a shot at a similar deal with the Saints. Maybe Carpenter plus a 4th for Brown. I'd do that deal in a heartbeat.A throw away player and a mid-round pick for some stability at OT is a no brainer.

I think you get the point.

And lets be honest, if Dan Snyder was involved in this trade at all, it would have been the 2011 1st, and a future 3rd going to the Saints and Brown would already have been signed to a 5 year 50 million dollar contract

 

[Mansta54]

Jamal Brown is coming off hip surgery, missed all of last season, has missed 7 straight practices already, and needed a cortizone shot already after just a week and a half of TC. Hip surgery is no joke, especially for a football player. Sean Peyton knew what he was doing when trading him away. Foreskins got JACKED again and they're in trouble if Heyer has to play RT for them often. He's garbage!!!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Every year it's the same thing, some mediot or concerned Cowboy fan says that the skins will surprise, and every year the skins SUCK.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

You remind of a very good friend of mine. Great friend, just not so bright, and when you try and actually discuss things with him he goes into a completely different tangent that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

So lets set a ground rule. Stick to the topic here. And Fat Al has been practicing all over the line, and I have no clue where you are getting that he objected to playing RDE.

In fact, he seems to like the scheme.
ok at what your fellow Cowboy fans thought of this trade for Jammal Brown.

I think you get the point.

And lets be honest, if Dan Snyder was involved in this trade at all, it would have been the 2011 1st, and a future 3rd going to the Saints and Brown would already have been signed to a 5 year 50 million dollar contract

Point is that you've been twisting things to make the Commanders land look like its turned things around and heading in the right direction when things appear no different than any other year under your idiot owner. I wonder if anyone who is a Commanders fan has a gag reflex at all considering how quickly you swallow whatever he feeds the lot of you as a new twist on his same old routine.

As I have stated in this thread, Haynesworth is slated to start at RE.

The entire offseason holdout had zero to do with him being at DE, it was all about the NT position he didn't want to play. However you say he didn't participate in anything because he was simply being lazy despite a few hundred reports that he specifically didn't want to play NT.

Then you continued in "proving" your pet theory because Kemoeatu was ahead of him on the depth chart. Obviously then, by the crap your shoveling, Haynesworth wasn't ever slated to be a NT and therefore was only holding out because he was lazy.

Except that the Washington Post just reported Shanahan saying he's #2 on the depth chart at NT because he has to earn the starting job after missing the offseason workouts and the failing the farce of a conditioning test. So it has been, and continues to be, Haynesworth didn't participate in offseason activities specifically because he didn't want to be a NT in the 3-4.

Now you say that Snyder hasn't been around. You're just pulling **** out of your *** to make it look like your little munchkin has, for the very first time in his life, taken a back seat to watching how the team is run. C'mon. This isn't ES. His history of idiocy and signing the hot free agent flavor of the year is well documented.

To prove he has turned over a new leaf, he trades for a player with knee problems that are well documented throughout his college days.


I don't care what other folks said here, the knees were a HUGE red flag on the player. The major hip surgery was another. He's missed 7 practices now and is getting cortisone shots. There are a ton of folks who aren't surprised by this.

Yet, in the usual idiocy that accompanies Commanders fans, you point out that Snyder didn't have anything to do with the signing because the offer wasn't completely over the top to the Saints and Jamaal. Let's see a hot name in the media, ignoring past issues with the player (documented bad knees), ignoring current issues with the player (hip surgery). Standard operating procedure under Snyder.

 

[kmd24]

Now thats settled, lets look at what your fellow Cowboy fans thought of this trade for Jammal Brown.

Just because a bunch of fans in a forum say is was a good trade means very little. It's obvious in retrospect that the Skins were taking a flyer on a player who's future was and is very much in doubt. Those quotes are guys thinking of the Brown that could actually get on the field, not the broken-down lineman he's become - one who's going to struggle all year to get himself ready to play and who's likely going to struggle to play well when he can.

 

[1fisher]

Now thats settled, lets look at what your fellow Cowboy fans thought of this trade for Jammal Brown.


In the grand scheme of things... does it really matter what Cowboy fans think? There's a reason the Dallas FO didn't try to pick up this guy and now it's coming to light.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Just because a bunch of fans in a forum say is was a good trade means very little. It's obvious in retrospect that the Skins were taking a flyer on a player who's future was and is very much in doubt. Those quotes are guys thinking of the Brown that could actually get on the field, not the broken-down lineman he's become - one who's going to struggle all year to get himself ready to play and who's likely going to struggle to play well when he can.

And Cowboy fans have to go back to 2003 to when they made a good trade (Terry Glenn). The Skin fans probably have to go back to the '83 season. So yeah, neither of our fans know what a good trade is.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Just because a bunch of fans in a forum say is was a good trade means very little. It's obvious in retrospect that the Skins were taking a flyer on a player who's future was and is very much in doubt. Those quotes are guys thinking of the Brown that could actually get on the field, not the broken-down lineman he's become - one who's going to struggle all year to get himself ready to play and who's likely going to struggle to play well when he can.

Point is that the same people (not necessarily you) who rip Jerry Jones for some trade he made that didn't work out yet never give him credit for the good decisions he makes.

Time for some people to man up and say "I was wrong. Jerry was right."

 

[joseephuss]

And Cowboy fans have to go back to 2003 to when they made a good trade (Terry Glenn). The Skin fans probably have to go back to the '83 season. So yeah, neither of our fans know what a good trade is.

I thought Dallas made a good trade in 2004 with the Bills. That garnered an extra 1st round pick in 2005.

I thought Dallas made a good trade in 2007 with the Browns. That garnered an extra 1st round pick in 2008.

 

[VACowboy]

The Commanders are always a mystery.

Their defense has played well the last few years, and it seems that little has changed personnel-wise.

Offensive consistency has been their buggaboo. McNabb is a pretty good player. It's clear he's declining, but he's still an improvement over what they've been trotting out there the last few years.

They have a solid trio of backs (Portis, Johnson, and Parker), a WR corps with potential (Moss and Thomas), and one of the better TE pairs in the NFL (Cooley and Davis).

Their line is subpar, but Shannahan has always seemed to get the most out of his OL.

We'll see.......This first game really makes me nervous. I think we outclass the Skins at nearly every position, but they always seem to play us tough....if they get a little momentum to start the year, they'll be a tough out every week.

I think anything can happen in the NFL....I wouldn't be surprised to see 9-7 from them if the cards fall right.

I hate the frickin' Skins.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I thought Dallas made a good trade in 2004 with the Bills. That garnered an extra 1st round pick in 2005.

I thought Dallas made a good trade in 2007 with the Browns. That garnered an extra 1st round pick in 2008.

I'm talking about trades for players.

 

[Apluz]

And Cowboy fans have to go back to 2003 to when they made a good trade (Terry Glenn). The Skin fans probably have to go back to the '83 season. So yeah, neither of our fans know what a good trade is.

You make a good point.

The one good thing about that is we don't make many player trades. We do a much better job at targeting FA's.