Jared Crick Tidbit...

[SDogo]

I'm being told there are several teams who failed Crick during their medical evaluation. Please don't get this confused with failing the combine medical or that he failed a general NFL physical. As far as teams I can't help with that, I was not given that information.

 

[Randy White]

doubt it if it was true. Torn pectoral muscles could be tricky.. I was simply amazed how Kenny Norton Jr played with one of those back in the day.

 

[mickswag]

I'm being told there are several teams who failed Crick during their medical evaluation. Please don't get this confused with failing the combine medical or that he failed a general NFL physical. As far as teams I can't help with that, I was not given that information.

That's interesting. I wonder of that'll maybe push him out of the second for some teams. I'm guessing it will. By the way, are you putting your mock out tonight, SDogo?

 

[Muhast]

So what exactly does that mean for his draft stock?

 

[JonJon]

What does that mean exactly? Is that pectoral muscle not fully recovered yet?

 

[cowboysooner]

I'm being told there are several teams who failed Crick during their medical evaluation. Please don't get this confused with failing the combine medical or that he failed a general NFL physical. As far as teams I can't help with that, I was not given that information.

Do you know if it was the pec or the concussions? I'd draft him @ 113 and stash him if its the pec. I'm not interested in the concussions.

 

[Randy White]

another reason why I think Jenkins might not even be on the Cowboys draft board:


Just how prevalent was the drug use among Meyer’s players? A source told Sporting News that Patriots coach Bill Belichick spoke to the current Florida team this offseason, and addressed the issue and how it impacts NFL careers.

“His message was, in essence, don’t be like those guys,” a source said.

But none of those aforementioned drug problems was as prominent as All-American cornerback Janoris Jenkins', who, like Harvin, former players say, was protected by Meyer’s Circle of Trust. Jenkins failed a drug test at Florida under Meyer and was arrested for his part in a bar fight. He was later arrested twice for possession of marijuana within the first few months Muschamp was on the job.

In fact, in the first month of Muschamp’s tenure, three players—Jenkins, linebacker Chris Martin and defensive end Kedric Johnson—were arrested in separate incidents for possession of marijuana.

When he was dismissed from the team by Muschamp, Jenkins told the Orlando Sentinel: “If (Meyer) was still the coach at Florida, I’d still be there.”

This is the same Jenkins who, according to sources, walked out on Meyer’s postgame speech after the 2008 season opener and threatened to quit. Meyer not only brought Jenkins back without punishment, Jenkins eventually developed into a freshman All-American and played a big role in the team’s championship run.

Meyer says Jenkins “is a good kid who made a bad mistake,” and contends he was dealing with issues at Florida that occur at “every program in the country.” Every coach, he says, has his own way of dealing with them.


http://http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-04-09/urban-meyer-florida-ohio-state-ncaa-violation-recruiting-drugs-program-will-musc#ixzz1rZzcU3jb

 

[RS12]

Dont want Crick anyway.

 

[jswalker1981]

:look:

Umm, so what does this mean? He will drop a round or two? Does that put him in the third round?

 

[jswalker1981]

another reason why I think Jenkins might not even be on the Cowboys draft board:


Just how prevalent was the drug use among Meyer’s players? A source told Sporting News that Patriots coach Bill Belichick spoke to the current Florida team this offseason, and addressed the issue and how it impacts NFL careers.

“His message was, in essence, don’t be like those guys,” a source said.

But none of those aforementioned drug problems was as prominent as All-American cornerback Janoris Jenkins', who, like Harvin, former players say, was protected by Meyer’s Circle of Trust. Jenkins failed a drug test at Florida under Meyer and was arrested for his part in a bar fight. He was later arrested twice for possession of marijuana within the first few months Muschamp was on the job.

In fact, in the first month of Muschamp’s tenure, three players—Jenkins, linebacker Chris Martin and defensive end Kedric Johnson—were arrested in separate incidents for possession of marijuana.

When he was dismissed from the team by Muschamp, Jenkins told the Orlando Sentinel: “If (Meyer) was still the coach at Florida, I’d still be there.”

This is the same Jenkins who, according to sources, walked out on Meyer’s postgame speech after the 2008 season opener and threatened to quit. Meyer not only brought Jenkins back without punishment, Jenkins eventually developed into a freshman All-American and played a big role in the team’s championship run.

Meyer says Jenkins “is a good kid who made a bad mistake,” and contends he was dealing with issues at Florida that occur at “every program in the country.” Every coach, he says, has his own way of dealing with them.


http://http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-04-09/urban-meyer-florida-ohio-state-ncaa-violation-recruiting-drugs-program-will-musc#ixzz1rZzcU3jb

Are you in the wrong thread?

 

[Randy White]

What does that mean exactly? Is that pectoral muscle not fully recovered yet?

Well, going by memory on Kenny Norton Jr, he was able to play with a harness that prevented him from raising his arm. I suspect that when teams doctor checked on Crick, he probably still couldn't extend his arm fully.

 

[Randy White]

Are you in the wrong thread?

Uh, no.. I was pointing out something to SDogo that I just finished reading.

 

[SDogo]

That's interesting. I wonder of that'll maybe push him out of the second for some teams. I'm guessing it will. By the way, are you putting your mock out tonight, SDogo?

Not done with it yet, trying to get my NFL mock and Cowboys mock done at the same time which was a bad idea. Schedule got thrown off this week.

I'll have one done by the afternoon, probably the Cowboys one.

I'm struggling on the NFL mock, I'm begging to believe I'm over thinking it.

 

[SDogo]

So what exactly does that mean for his draft stock?

:look:

Umm, so what does this mean? He will drop a round or two? Does that put him in the third round?

I don't know honestly if it will have that much effect, it sounds as if it was only a handful of teams that came back with this conclusion. Now that does not mean more have and are not acknowledging it but I was told a handful. IMO, that's 5. I don't think it will be enough to push him back too far.

 

[SDogo]

Do you know if it was the pec or the concussions? I'd draft him @ 113 and stash him if its the pec. I'm not interested in the concussions.

Sorry, that information was not released to me. You don't hear a lot about failed medicals for obvious reasons so I consider myself lucky to even know this little.

 

[kmd24]

doubt it if it was true. Torn pectoral muscles could be tricky.. I was simply amazed how Kenny Norton Jr played with one of those back in the day.

IIRC, Norton's was a torn biceps, not a torn pec.

 

[jswalker1981]

Uh, no.. I was pointing out something to SDogo that I just finished reading.

Oh, it just didn't seem to fit with the discussion about Crick. I just thought there might have been another thread discussing Jenkins and you forgot which thread you were in. My bad.

 

[mickswag]

Not done with it yet, trying to get my NFL mock and Cowboys mock done at the same time which was a bad idea. Schedule got thrown off this week.

I'll have one done by the afternoon, probably the Cowboys one.

I'm struggling on the NFL mock, I'm begging to believe I'm over thinking it.

I don't blame you with the 20+ prospects going in the first ten picks. :laugh2:

 

[SDogo]

I don't blame you with the 20+ prospects going in the first ten picks. :laugh2:

It's funny because it's a joke and that's the way it seems but at the same time I'm pulling my hair out cause that's what I'm trying to do!

Really what it is, picks 3, 7 and 10. Minnesota can set this whole thing off one direction or the other. Then it has the chance to right itself at 7 or just blow the rest of the round to hell.

 

[Wulfman]

It's funny because it's a joke and that's the way it seems but at the same time I'm pulling my hair out cause that's what I'm trying to do!

Really what it is, picks 3, 7 and 10. Minnesota can set this whole thing off one direction or the other. Then it has the chance to right itself at 7 or just blow the rest of the round to hell.

I ran into that in mine as well, Sdogo. I had scenarios where the Vikings went with Claiborne and it righted itself, and others where it twisted the whole thing. The worst one for figuring it out, though, was when I put in a trade between Tampa Bay and Minnesota. Tampa jumped from 5 to 3 and took Richardson ahead of Cleveland, leaving the Browns with the choice of Claiborne or Blackmon. They went with Blackmon, but it then led to another trade back for Minnesota because another team jumped up to 5 to get Claiborne. After about pick #11 and three trades...or was it four...I just threw the damned thing away and said, "If that happens, I'll just be wrong."