Jared Goff Accuracy Chart

[AzorAhai]

 

[sureletsrace]

Good info, and about what I expected. Most quarterbacks struggle more with the right side of the field, and throw better to the left.

The opposite would be true if the quarterback was left handed.

I like to look at the 11-19 window, or the "intermediate" throwing window. His average 69% completion percentage to the 11-19 is solid. Those are good plays in the NFL. The throws shorter than that aren't good enough unless you have a YAC monster at WR, like Dez. The throws deeper than that become much more risky in the NFL.

I do wish there were more throws to that intermediate window though. His short passes pretty much triple the intermediate.

 

[waving monkey]

good stuff

 

[YosemiteSam]

He sucks and will never convert to an NFL QB. /next

 

[AzorAhai]

Good info, and about what I expected. Most quarterbacks struggle more with the right side of the field, and throw better to the left.

The opposite would be true if the quarterback was left handed.

I like to look at the 11-19 window, or the "intermediate" throwing window. His average 69% completion percentage to the 11-19 is solid. Those are good plays in the NFL. The throws shorter than that aren't good enough unless you have a YAC monster at WR, like Dez. The throws deeper than that become much more risky in the NFL.

I do wish there were more throws to that intermediate window though. His short passes pretty much triple the intermediate.

I believe QBs live and die by their intermediate throws. Any QB can throw short. Deep balls are too inconsistent to rely on with any regularity in the NFL(though Goff throws a beautiful deep ball). That 11-20 range is where guys like Romo have made a name for themselves. It is the area I look at the most when I grade QBs. Though his attempts aren't incredibly high, Goff is incredibly accurate with these throws. I've seen Lynch have more trouble with his ball placement, often leaving the ball low limiting RAC or short entirely in the intermediate area.

 

[sureletsrace]

I believe QBs live and die by their intermediate throws. Any QB can throw short. Deep balls are too inconsistent to rely on with any regularity in the NFL(though Goff throws a beautiful deep ball). That 11-20 range is where guys like Romo have made a name for themselves. It is the area I look at the most when I grade QBs. Though his attempts aren't incredibly high, Goff is incredibly accurate with these throws. I've seen Lynch have more trouble with his ball placement, often leaving the ball low limiting RAC or short entirely in the intermediate area.

Definitely. Those 11-19 yard throws are where a lot of your big plays come from in the NFL. It's not as easy to go deep in the NFL as it is in college. When you look at good-to-elite QBs in the NFL like Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Romo, both Mannings, Rivers, etc. they all are very good on the intermediate throws. Being able to connect on the deep passes is nice, but like you said, unreliable. Give me the QB that can consistently hit those 15 yard passes. I bet he wins more games that the deep thrower.

 

[waving monkey]

I'm losing my objective fans view and ready to go all out Homer
hoping Jerry goes gambler for the this guy.

 

[Macnalty]

I think Goff moves to the top of the QB talent depth after Cooks play against Alabama. Not so sure how to think about the talent pool after that showing.

 

[AzorAhai]

I think Goff moves to the top of the QB talent depth after Cooks play against Alabama. Not so sure how to think about the talent pool after that showing.

I think Cook was already firmly entrenched in the 3rd tier before this game. It's Goff and Lynch in tier 1 and Wentz in tier 2 with a chance to possibly move up. It wouldn't shock me one bit to see Cook go in the 3rd as I think the gap between tier 2 and 3 is pretty large.

As to the upper tier, I don't think theres any elite, elite prospects like Luck. Those guys usually only pop up once a decade or so. Personally I think Goff is a top 5 type prospect in most drafts. Lynch to me is a top 5-10 guy in most drafts. Neither of them are in the Ponder, Locker, Gabbert category. Those are guys who actually graded out similarly to someone like Cook. Need and desperation pushed them way to far up. The trend lately has seemed to back away from QBs being pushed way up like that. I would be very happy if Goff or Lynch were our 1st pick even though the board seems split on their evaluations at this point.

 

[VACowboy]

I think Cook was already firmly entrenched in the 3rd tier before this game. It's Goff and Lynch in tier 1 and Wentz in tier 2 with a chance to possibly move up. It wouldn't shock me one bit to see Cook go in the 3rd as I think the gap between tier 2 and 3 is pretty large.

As to the upper tier, I don't think theres any elite, elite prospects like Luck. Those guys usually only pop up once a decade or so. Personally I think Goff is a top 5 type prospect in most drafts. Lynch to me is a top 5-10 guy in most drafts. Neither of them are in the Ponder, Locker, Gabbert category. Those are guys who actually graded out similarly to someone like Cook. Need and desperation pushed them way to far up. The trend lately has seemed to back away from QBs being pushed way up like that. I would be very happy if Goff or Lynch were our 1st pick even though the board seems split on their evaluations at this point.

This assessment echoes my sentiment almost exactly. I wouldn't hesitate to to take either one at #4, though I'd rather have Goff.

 

[Macnalty]

I think Cook was already firmly entrenched in the 3rd tier before this game. It's Goff and Lynch in tier 1 and Wentz in tier 2 with a chance to possibly move up. It wouldn't shock me one bit to see Cook go in the 3rd as I think the gap between tier 2 and 3 is pretty large.

As to the upper tier, I don't think theres any elite, elite prospects like Luck. Those guys usually only pop up once a decade or so. Personally I think Goff is a top 5 type prospect in most drafts. Lynch to me is a top 5-10 guy in most drafts. Neither of them are in the Ponder, Locker, Gabbert category. Those are guys who actually graded out similarly to someone like Cook. Need and desperation pushed them way to far up. The trend lately has seemed to back away from QBs being pushed way up like that. I would be very happy if Goff or Lynch were our 1st pick even though the board seems split on their evaluations at this point.

I watched Cook(owned last night) during the season he was at the top of the heap in my mind, of course others will differ, that being said do not judge Goff off of that Air Force game it would be a huge mistake, take a look when he played Utah and some others.
I so agree their is no Luck in this talent pool that has shown during the season so it is very similar to some bad QB draft years in the not so distance past and would find it distasteful to end up with a Jimmy Clausen/Geno Smith/Blaine Gabbert/Brady Quinn/Christian Ponder/Brandon Weeden/Matt Leinart/JaMarcus Russell/Jake Locker, player around our neck for 5 years. I am firmly in the BPA and best value selection with our top four pick.

 

[AzorAhai]

I watched Cook(owned last night) during the season he was at the top of the heap in my mind, of course others will differ, that being said do not judge Goff off of that Air Force game it would be a huge mistake, take a look when he played Utah and some others.
I so agree their is no Luck in this talent pool that has shown during the season so it is very similar to some bad QB draft years in the not so distance past and would find it distasteful to end up with a Jimmy Clausen/Geno Smith/Blaine Gabbert/Brady Quinn/Christian Ponder/Brandon Weeden/Matt Leinart/JaMarcus Russell/Jake Locker, player around our neck for 5 years. I am firmly in the BPA and best value selection with our top four pick.

No the Air Force game was nice, but thats what he was expected to do. I've been high on Goff for a long time. I think a lot of people here are being swayed by both Lynch and Goffs bowl games. I'm not one of them though.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I think Cook was already firmly entrenched in the 3rd tier before this game. It's Goff and Lynch in tier 1 and Wentz in tier 2 with a chance to possibly move up. It wouldn't shock me one bit to see Cook go in the 3rd as I think the gap between tier 2 and 3 is pretty large.

As to the upper tier, I don't think theres any elite, elite prospects like Luck. Those guys usually only pop up once a decade or so. Personally I think Goff is a top 5 type prospect in most drafts. Lynch to me is a top 5-10 guy in most drafts. Neither of them are in the Ponder, Locker, Gabbert category. Those are guys who actually graded out similarly to someone like Cook. Need and desperation pushed them way to far up. The trend lately has seemed to back away from QBs being pushed way up like that. I would be very happy if Goff or Lynch were our 1st pick even though the board seems split on their evaluations at this point.

Gabbert was poor scouting. Lots of media guys had him rated top 5

Locker and Ponder were considered 2nd round talent most of the offseason. God I dont think I have ever seen a first round that bad

 

[darthseinfeld]

No the Air Force game was nice, but thats what he was expected to do. I've been high on Goff for a long time. I think a lot of people here are being swayed by both Lynch and Goffs bowl games. I'm not one of them though.

Id take either of them.

I think Goff however could play at a very high level as a rookie. Especially here when we have an excellent OL and a top 5 WR already.

 

[Biggems]

Gabbert was poor scouting. Lots of media guys had him rated top 5

Locker and Ponder were considered 2nd round talent most of the offseason. God I dont think I have ever seen a first round that bad

desperation leads to very poor decision making, leaving the decision maker smelling of very foul perspiration.

 

[AzorAhai]

Id take either of them.

I think Goff however could play at a very high level as a rookie. Especially here when we have an excellent OL and a top 5 WR already.

I think so too. He doesn't need to learn near as much on our bench as Lynch would. The only real flaws I've spotted are a tendency to sometimes throw off his back foot when the pressure doesn't call for it. He also needs to work on his decision making and game situations. He seems to think he can always make every play and sometimes that gets him in trouble. Both of these could easily be improved by learning from a QB like Romo and having an actual OL.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I think so too. He doesn't need to learn near as much on our bench as Lynch would. The only real flaws I've spotted are a tendency to sometimes throw off his back foot when the pressure doesn't call for it. He also needs to work on his decision making and game situations. He seems to think he can always make every play and sometimes that gets him in trouble. Both of these could easily be improved by learning from a QB like Romo and having an actual OL.

I can live with that compared to what we have had to endure this year

 

[sureletsrace]

I'm not sure either are ready to come in and play immediately, but I do think that with time they have the potential to be very good QBs.

 

[Macnalty]

No the Air Force game was nice, but thats what he was expected to do. I've been high on Goff for a long time. I think a lot of people here are being swayed by both Lynch and Goffs bowl games. I'm not one of them though.

Air Force had the #23 passing defense although it was well disguised during the game.

 

[AzorAhai]

Air Force had the #23 passing defense although it was well disguised during the game.

I don't know that it was disguised as much as over inflated. The competition they faced through the year wasn't very good so that ranking is probably misleading. For a future top 10 pick, I think he should have had a very good game. Maybe not as good as he did, but a very good game nonetheless.