Jason Garrett is least of cowboys problems

[dupree89]

It is a fear, but not something that is so paralyzing that you should do nothing. Just an observation.

very true. And an accurate observation.

 

[dupree89]

I didnt want to start a new post as I know some get fed up with what they consider to be the same topics over and over again......so since this is a 'problems' post, I will add my thinking here.

I have been paying particular attention the past few days to what different people here think the some of the problems are. Things like:

Jerry the owner
Jerry the GM
Garrett
playcalling
the defense
hiring an old man to run the defense
poor drafts
injuries
salary cap problems
no running game
stale offense
no home field advantage
no depth
a few say the QB

Those are some of the problems according to people here. Now lets remove injuries as its tough to hold anyone accountable for players getting hurt. And lets remove the QB as I dont think many really feel he is at the center of the problems. But lets say there is at least SOME validity to each of the other problems. Doesnt matter the biggest problem or where they all rank....doesnt this just show that there are problems on so many levels with this team? Its like everywhere you turn, there is another weakness. Maybe because we "still are in first place" we try to sweep some of the issues under the rug. But the problems arent going away and they dont seem to be getting resolved.

 

[jnday]

It is a fear, but not something that is so paralyzing that you should do nothing. Just an observation.

It is a fear that nothing will be done. The chances are that things will not change much within the next year and the small changes that happen will not solve the long term problems. I have learned to expect little from Jerry when it comes to making good football decisions. By expecting little, I am rarely disappointed.

 

[Tabascocat]

It is a fear that nothing will be done. The chances are that things will not change much within the next year and the small changes that happen will not solve the long term problems. I have learned to expect little from Jerry when it comes to making good football decisions. By expecting little, I am rarely disappointed.

Did I hear little Jerry???
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[jnday]

Read through the first two pages (40 posts),

Was there a mention of Callahan ?

Either way, Garrett is responsible for Callahan. Therefore...Garrett is still part of the problem (if not the biggest).

Jerry needs a guy with a set, to say what he needs to win, even if that means saying he needs a new GM.

You have a good point about Callahan escaping the heat. His oline unit broke records for the lowest rushing yards for the team last year and he got promoted. He doesn't even get heat from within the organization. It doesn't make sense.

 

[AtomicDog]

nailed it. though I would put Tony Romo even lower on the list

this

 

[17yearsandcounting]

I love the Garrett Parrot line of thinking

"Jerry is the problem, he made a huge mess, makes bad decisions, and is a terrible GM"

Well diddnt that terrible GM hire Jason Garrett?

"Well that was a good decision"

 

[dupree89]

I love the Garrett Parrot line of thinking

"Jerry is the problem, he made a huge mess, makes bad decisions, and is a terrible GM"

Well diddnt that terrible GM hire Jason Garrett?

"Well that was a good decision"

Garrett sure does have his share of supporters through this process.

 

[Blackspider214]

The head coach on a bad team is always a problem. Always.

How many other teams are ran like ours? Where the owner makes football decisions that decide the product on the field. I'm going to guess none. So yes, the head coach is always a problem on a bad team. You are right. And Garrett is not a good head coach. Problem is, Jerry will never hire anyone to let take control of the team. He did once with Parcells and that did not last that long. Jerry wanted control back and Parcells had enough.

Problem is, this team is so far in trouble with salary cap issues and bad contracts and no depth that it will be hard for any coach to come in here and make a real change. When Wade turned things around, we had talent here across the board. It's much different now. There is no hope for this thing. We are fed a bunch of bull every single year about how it's going to be different but it's not. We are mediocre. And that is all we can hope for. Those drafts from 2006-2010 were just abysmal. That is why we have no depth. Not one single player from the 2009 draft is here. So instead of drafting to make our team stronger, we are drafting to make up for past mistakes. And it's an endless cycle.

It's so bad this year that we may not even win the division when the East is probably the worst it has ever been.

 

[dupree89]

It's so bad this year that we may not even win the division when the East is probably the worst it has ever been.

You are right. And let me say this...if somehow the NYG win this division after being 0-6 every single member of the Cowboys organization should be embarrassed. Every player. Every coach. And the GM of course. This would be an absolute disgrace- yet it is very possible.

This is the only scenario where I could see the entire coaching staff gone:
Cowboys lose the rest of their games and the NYG win the East after being 0-6. Now that right there would have to push Jerry over the edge.

 

[kramskoi]

here is win/loss record of last 3 HC for Cowboys:

Bill Parcells: 34-30
Wade Phillips: 34-22
Jason Garrett: 26-24

As we can see Jason is no worse than Parcells for winning %. But more to the point is that none of these coaches were able to get their teams deep into playoffs. That comes back to person making personnel decisions (Jerry) and your on-field quintessential leader (Romo). The revolving door will continue with HC but nothing concrete will change until you change the personnel decision maker and your on-field leadership.

The big problem with your analysis is that Garrett has YET to do what both Phillips and Parcells did twice. He has finished no better than third in the division since becoming head coach. Meanwhile the running game has been marginalized to the point of near non-existence...by choice it seems. The entire offensive line (minus Waters) has been rebuilt and still the offense continues its penchant for self-immolation. Garrett being no worse than Parcells and Phillips is almost laughable to me, especially after Sunday night.

 

[kramskoi]

LOL.

Parcells got Quincy Carter into the playoffs.

And THAT's saying something my friend. I'll let you tell it!

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Would it kill one of these Garrett Fanbois to admit that they may be wrong?

Comparing Garrett to Parcells is down right dishonest and I down right refuse to put up with this revisionist apologist NONSENSE.

Good lord, Parcells had to start DREW HENSON in a game once.

 

[Idgit]

Garrett sure does have his share of supporters through this process.

As he should. The real problems with the team are well documented, and they're elsewhere. JG *is* running out of runway for getting those problems addressed, though. It gets harder to make the case that improvements take time when, over time, things don't improve. At some point first the media and then the fans, and then the players and the front office will turn, and once that happens, it's awfully hard to turn things back.

 

[Sarge]

There are multiple problems with this team and Garrett is one of them.

 

[IrishAnto]

Well, you can go back and forth all day on who is worse for the franchise, JG or Jerruh. I tend to think its JG...but w/e.

My point was, he's worse than Romo lol

There’s no debate on who is worse for this Franchise.

Garrett got here as a coach (OC) in Jan 2007, we’ve had nearly 19 years of crap since Jan 95.

You blaming Garrett for the first 13 years of this mess?

 

[IrishAnto]

True.

But he is not as big of a problem as the Owner who is also the GM.

If the team does not do well the GM can fire the HC.

If the team does not do well the Owner can fire the GM.

If the Owner is the GM he can fire the coach and hire as many different coaches he wants but he is not firing the GM.

Hit the nail on the head!

 

[IrishAnto]

Take away Brady and what do you have in Bellicek as a HC? I guess one could make the argument that Brady saved Bellichek as a HC. Without Brady, I doubt he does much. And Brady was basically a throw-away 6th rd pick, stab in the dark, if you will. One could also make the argument that Bellichek made brady what he is.

I seriously doubt Garrett would ever get another head coaching gig if he gets fired in a year or so.

You forgot that Bellichek went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at the helm.

That guy is a dam good coach.

Does Brady help? Sure.

Did Staubach help Landry or Aikman help Johnson?

 

[AKATheRake]

What if teams still had the authority to work players and keep them in shape and players didn't hit the lottery after 4 years and mentally retire?

That's why u have to consistently draft well, then develop those players into a viable system.

Jerry and Jason still problem number 1 and 2.

Batman and Robin

 

[Ren]

Blaming the coach gives people the illusion that this is a better team then it really is and the hope of a quick turn around when Garrett is gone. Is Garrett a good coach? sure doesn't look like it but on the list of things wrong with this team he's far from the biggest problem.

When you play a game in the NFL with the likes of Heath starting you're in trouble regardless of who your coach is