Jason Garrett vs Tom Landry

[SilverStarCowboy]

Jason came into this league with a good Team and a lack luster Coaching resume.

Tom with alot of experience on his resume but not much of a Team.

Landry quickly transformed his squad into 18 straight playoff appearences.

If Jason is such a good Coach then Dallas should have atleast made the Playoffs with the squad they have had recently.

What gives.

Doesn't Dallas deserve a better qualified Leader as Head Coach?

Thoughts on the gigantic gap in this Coaching comparison?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Oh brother.

There has never been, nor will there likely ever be, a bigger stretch of a thread on these forums.

 

[Doomsday101]

Jason came into this league with a good Team and a lack luster Coaching resume.

Tom with alot of experience on his resume but not much of a Team.

Landry quickly transformed his squad into 18 straight playoff appearences.

If Jason is such a good Coach then Dallas should have atleast made the Playoffs with the squad they have had recently.

What gives.

Doesn't Dallas deserve a better qualified Leader as Head Coach?

Thoughts on the gigantic gap in this Coaching comparison?

You mean the same Tom Landry that fans wanted fired early in his career in Dallas? :laugh2:

Jason completed his 1st full season as a HC before ditching him people may want to give this a chance.

 

[joseephuss]

Garrett is building for the long term. There could have been a few decisions made that would have put Dallas in a better position to make the playoffs this year, but would not have helped for the long term. I don't think judging him after one single season is the right thing to do. I think it takes 3 full years to tell if a coach/organization is headed in the right direction. They can have some form of success before those 3 years have been completed, but it may just be a mirage and not a true indicator of how well the team will do in the long term.

It took Dallas until its 7th season to make the playoffs under Landry. I don't know if that is quickly or not considering the obstacles they had to face as an expansion franchise. They built for the long term. They could have made different moves that got them to the playoffs more quickly, but it would not have been sustained. They built a dynasty instead of a team that could maybe just make a playoff appearance once every few years.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Oh brother.

There has never been, nor will there likely ever be, a bigger stretch of a thread on these forums.

Insecure people tend to down others, maybe it makes them feel better. Atleast we hope so.

 

[joseephuss]

Insecure people tend to down other poeple, maybe it makes them feel better. Atleast we hope so.

That is your explanation for putting down Jason Garrett? You are just insecure and it makes you feel better?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

That is your explanation for putting down Jason Garrett? You are just insecure and it makes you feel better?

Sure...


Insecure about losing.

Not certain he is building for the future like you said but it sounded good.

 

[cbow44]

Jason came into this league with a good Team and a lack luster Coaching resume.

Tom with alot of experience on his resume but not much of a Team.

Landry quickly transformed his squad into 18 straight playoff appearences.

If Jason is such a good Coach then Dallas should have atleast made the Playoffs with the squad they have had recently.

What gives.

Doesn't Dallas deserve a better qualified Leader as Head Coach?

Thoughts on the gigantic gap in this Coaching comparison?

you need to go back and check your history. Tom didnt QUICKLY turn this team into a winner. As a matter of fact the news papers and the fans were calling for him to be fired after 5 losing seasons. Murchison responded by giving him a new contract. And even after he had the boys in the championship game 2 yrs in a row, fans were not satisfied. The 2 years following the icebowl we lost horribly to Cleveland in the playoffs not even being competitive. People were again calling for his head. The next year things were falling apart again. We lost on Monday night football to the Cardinals I think 38 to 0. Dandy Dons famous "Turn out the lights the party's over" and the "some teams fire coaches and some teams blame QB's "staement. their wasnt a internet but folks were still screaming for his head. Next years champions.
Then the cowboys didnt lose another game till the Colts (%@%$ officials)in the superbowl, the rest is history. I dont know if you really dont know the history or just have an agenda.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

just in need of a littel revisionist history. thank u

 

[Doomsday101]

just in need of a littel revisionist history. thank u

It is just the fact. Dallas fans wanted Landry fired it was Clint Murchinson who despite fans calling for Landry head who handed him a 10 year deal.

I don't know how Garrett will do but like any coach he needs the time to make the changes that fit what he wants.

 

[Picksix]

Jason came into this league with a good Team and a lack luster Coaching resume.

Tom with alot of experience on his resume but not much of a Team.

Landry quickly transformed his squad into 18 straight playoff appearences.

If Jason is such a good Coach then Dallas should have atleast made the Playoffs with the squad they have had recently.

What gives.

Doesn't Dallas deserve a better qualified Leader as Head Coach?

Thoughts on the gigantic gap in this Coaching comparison?

First, Landry didn't make the playoffs for the first 6 years of his tenure. On that note, you're the one guilty of revisionist history. Second, Garrett inherited a 1-7 team. They overhauled the OL last offseason. They to do the same with the secondary this season. The OL still needs to improve considerably. They need significant improvements along the DL and at the ILB position. In other words, we're not that good of a team.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Insecure people tend to down others, maybe it makes them feel better. Atleast we hope so.

Whose insecure? You?


I'm certainly not upset with you or anything. I just think your thread is an extreme stretch to even attempt to make such a comparison at this time.

 

[Hagman]

you need to go back and check your history. Tom didnt QUICKLY turn this team into a winner. As a matter of fact the news papers and the fans were calling for him to be fired after 5 losing seasons. Murchison responded by giving him a new contract. And even after he had the boys in the championship game 2 yrs in a row, fans were not satisfied. The 2 years following the icebowl we lost horribly to Cleveland in the playoffs not even being competitive. People were again calling for his head. The next year things were falling apart again. We lost on Monday night football to the Cardinals I think 38 to 0. Dandy Dons famous "Turn out the lights the party's over" and the "some teams fire coaches and some teams blame QB's "staement. their wasnt a internet but folks were still screaming for his head. Next years champions.
Then the cowboys didnt lose another game till the Colts (%@%$ officials)in the superbowl, the rest is history. I dont know if you really dont know the history or just have an agenda.

Very good post. You hit the nail on the head.

 

[RS12]

Landry ended up with a front office of Tex Schram and Gil Brandt. Garrett has Jerry.:laugh2:

 

[Doomsday101]

Landry ended up with a front office of Tex Schram and Gil Brandt. Garrett has Jerry.:laugh2:

and Tom Ciskowski.

Tex was the GM but he was not a personnel guy he was a promoter that was his role with the Rams before he came to Dallas. It was Tex working with Gil Brandt and Tom Landry that helped put this team together.

In my view as long as Jerry listens to those around him like Ciskowski and the needs of his HC in Garrett then this can work. Only when Jerry free lances has things gone off course.

 

[landroverking]

Different times different teams. TL had smarter players, no cap an owner that stayed out of the way and Gil Brandt. Tom Landry could feel the want too the heart of the player if you will. The last 18 years or so we draft & sign players by the numbers and forget about what's inside their head and heart.

 

[Ren]

Oh brother.

There has never been, nor will there likely ever be, a bigger stretch of a thread on these forums.

And yet if you come back tomorrow you will probably see one


Ahhhh CZ, how i missed it while i was on vacation :laugh2:

 

[gbrittain]

Unfortunately Dallas has enough talent in a few areas to get your hopes up, but not enough talent in other areas to be a consistent contender.

I questioned Jason Garrett on several things this year, but overall he is a first year head coach and deserves to be judged based upon the team he builds and not the one he inherited.

 

[Arch Stanton]

you need to go back and check your history. Tom didnt QUICKLY turn this team into a winner. As a matter of fact the news papers and the fans were calling for him to be fired after 5 losing seasons. Murchison responded by giving him a new contract. And even after he had the boys in the championship game 2 yrs in a row, fans were not satisfied. The 2 years following the icebowl we lost horribly to Cleveland in the playoffs not even being competitive. People were again calling for his head. The next year things were falling apart again. We lost on Monday night football to the Cardinals I think 38 to 0. Dandy Dons famous "Turn out the lights the party's over" and the "some teams fire coaches and some teams blame QB's "staement. their wasnt a internet but folks were still screaming for his head. Next years champions.
Then the cowboys didnt lose another game till the Colts (%@%$ officials)in the superbowl, the rest is history. I dont know if you really dont know the history or just have an agenda.

Hammer hit's nail thingy.

What a joke of a thread.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Jason came into this league with a good Team and a lack luster Coaching resume.

Tom with alot of experience on his resume but not much of a Team.

Landry quickly transformed his squad into 18 straight playoff appearences.

If Jason is such a good Coach then Dallas should have atleast made the Playoffs with the squad they have had recently.

What gives.

Doesn't Dallas deserve a better qualified Leader as Head Coach?

Thoughts on the gigantic gap in this Coaching comparison?

I'll put it in simple terms...

Tom Landry + bad talent = bad results

Jason Garrett + average talent = average results

When Gil Brandt was actually providing the Cowboys with quality talent the Cowboys were consistently good. When Gil and Tex decided to get cute and started drafting guys off of potential and moved away from production and character, they became bad.