Jeanty - pro day drop

[Ekspozed]

…and even then the team that drafts him will regret it

Doubtful

 

[Sandyf]

a 40 time without pads is just useless, always has been. How many OL or DL or LB do you see running 40 yards at top speed in a football game. Unless a WR is running a straight post route then they are never running at top speed because you have to either fake a CB out or cross or a multiple of things

The 40 yard dash is for the fans. If a RB or WR can't hold on to or catch a ball, running fast is worthless.

Emmitt Smith ran the 40 at 4.7, so by that measure we have quite a few fans that wouldn't have drafted him. That would have been the ultimate stupidity.

If Jeanty falls to 12 then the Boys should take him, he is one of the truly best four or five players in this draft.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Doubtful

Let’s do a thought experiment:

In 2016, Dallas took Ezekiel Elliot 4th overall. He made 3 pro bowls, 2 all-pro teams, had 4 1000 yard seasons for Dallas and was cut at 27. Now in 2025 he is likely out of the league only 9 years later, and many here believe he’s been done since 2023, or after 7 years. The team won the division only 3 times with him on the roster. Now The next 8 lineman taken after Zeke are still full time starters in 2025, will continue to be full time starters for another 3-5 years, and many of them are perennial pro bowl players.

For sake of argument, Ronnie Stanley was the next pick; he is an all-pro LT who just signed a massive extension to be Lamar’s blindside for the foreseeable future. Ronnie was taken the next pick after Zeke. Do you believe you got more out of Zeke than the Ravens are getting out of Stanley? If you could do the 2016 draft over again, would you have taken Stanley instead (maybe have him play RT with Smith still there). Your other options are the perennial pro bowl DT Deforest Buckner who’s still playing well. Do you think Zeke has had a more impactful career in 7 years than Deforest will in 15? Isn’t DT a huge need for the team? That could have been solved for a decade and a half, but you took a RB. Not them? How about Jack Conklin: 106 starts so far at RT, two first team all pros(Zeke was only once), will probably still be an NFL starter in 2027. How about Taylor Decker? Entrenched LT on the best line in the NFL in Detroit, 126 starts to his name and just made the 2024 pro bowl. Dude has been solid for 9 years and looks like he’s not slowing down… him or 4 1000 yard Zeke seasons. I’m not selectively picking out names, literally the next 8 lineman are still NFL starters. You turned all of them down for a less valuable position with an extremely short shelf life. It was a losing gamble, every time. Let’s do more.

In 2018, New York Giants selected Saquon Barkley 2nd overall. At the time, Eli was their QB but at the end of the rope. I believe he retired after 2019. Saquon in NY: 0 division titles, 1 playoff win, 3 1000 yard seasons. Thats what the 2nd overall pick got them. Here’s what they turned down: 3rd overall was Sam Darnold, maybe he benefits from sitting for a couple years, 4th overall is perennial pro bowl CB Denzel Ward, 5th Bradley Chubb, 6th Quinton Nelson, 7th Josh Allen, 8th Roquan Smith, 9th Mike Mcglinchey, 10th Josh Rosen. Every single non-QB was a home run in the top 10 except for the team that took the RB. Yes Saquon is a great player today, but there’s no argument that says NYG got 2nd overall pick value from him before he left. Want more? Let’s do more.

2017 draft, Leonard Fournette, 4th overall. 2 1000 yard seasons in Jacksonville, made the AFCCG one year(!)…. But cut before his fourth season. Found value in TB, but for Jacksonville he was a bust. Players they turned down to draft him: Patrick Mahomes, Marshon Lattimore, Haason Reddick, Marlon Humphrey, and oh yeah Christian McCaffrey.

Speaking of CMC, he went 8th overall in 2017. 5.5 years in Carolina, 3 1000 yard seasons, 1 playoff appearance (a loss), and they only got a 2nd round pick back for a guy who they paid the most premium price to get. See Fournette for missed opportunities in that draft. Let’s keep going.

2012, Trent Richardson, 3rd overall. Complete bust. Luke Kuechly, Fletcher Cox, Stephon Gilmore, Melvin Ingram a few of the names they passed on.

2015 draft, Todd Gurley 10th overall. Now this is an interesting one. 5 years on the Rams, we remember him as great but did he really only has 3 1000 yard seasons? Wow. cut by 25 years old and out of the league at 26. Turned down 3-time pro bowl tackle Andrus Peat who’s still an NFL starter, Marcus Peters who made 3 1st team All-Pros. More….

2010, CJ Spiller, 9th overall to the Bills. Now we’re going back. 1 pro bowl, 1 1000 yard season. The very next pick was Tyson Alualu, who was still playing in 2023. Spiller was out of the league by 2017. 2 picks after that was Brandon Graham, who played 200 games. Shortly after were JPP and Kareem Jackson, both still in the league.

2009, 12th overall: Knowshon Moreno, bust. 1 1000 yard season, retired by 2014. Don’t need to extrapolate this one.

2008, 4th overall, Darren McFadden, bust. 1 1000 yard season with Oakland, squeezed out a second with Dallas before he was cooked.

And now the one we can debate: 2007 Adrian Peterson, 7th overall. He had a storied career with Minnesota, but after the age of 28 he had 1 season with Minny where he played more than 4 games. In the entire time he was in the NFL, he has 1 career playoff win. Minnesota had 1 season(!) in the top 10 in the NFL in offense, and that was the year with Brett Favre… who could have probably still gotten them top 10 without AP because he was on fire that year. So yes AP put up a lot of fantasy football stats and sold a lot of tickets, but he did absolutely nothing for the progression of the team. If you look back at the Vikings over the last 30 years, you see the Denny Green era, the Randy Moss era, a big black hole of regret, the Mike Zimmer era, and then the Kevin O’Connel era. Guess which era AP is in? Minny needed LBers, corners, and Olineman that draft. Guess the next LB taken? Patrick Willis. The next Corner? Darrelle Revis. The next Olineman? Eventually HoFer Joe Staley. AP was fantastic, a HoFer even, but he still may not have been worth the pick, because he was a RB. Because he was nearly done at 28. Because the impact wasn’t as high. You’ll probably fight me on that one, but let’s keep going:

2006, Reggie Bush, 2nd overall. didn’t even hit 600 rushing yards in a season with New Orleans; for the second overall pick that’s a disaster. Got traded for Pennies on the dollar to Miami where he had some decent starting seasons, but NO gave up D’Brickeshaw Ferguson, Vernon Davis, and AJ Hawk in 3 of the next 4 picks. All started more than a decade in the NFL.

2005… this one’s easy: Ronnie Brown 2nd, Cedric Benson 4th, Cadillac Williams 5th. Combined for 2 total 1000 yard seasons with the teams that drafted them. Bust, bust, bust.



And there we are. Every single RB taken in Dallas’ current draft range or higher in the last 20 years. And every single one of them would like to have picked someone else if you gave them a mulligan (again, we can argue AP, but he was not the savior they drafted him to be, he just made them a garbage bag with pretty colors on it.) running backs aren’t worth taking that high. Their position impact is toward the bottom of the starters because they are easily replaced with committees. This is why they make the least amount of money of the 22 starting positions. They have by far the shortest lifespan if you do even hit on one, often HALF the career of a quality lineman.

It makes zero sense to get a RB that high. Bad teams do that. I bet you if we’re still around and on here, in 10 years time whoever takes Jeanty will regret it…. regardless of the quality of player he is. Not because I don’t believe in him as a prospect, but simply because he plays running back.