Jeremy Mincey: Young Cowboys need to grow up or the team will be in same situation in 2016

manster4ever

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Sounds like there are no leaders.

Been that way for a long time. I love what Romo and JWIt have brought to this franchise on the field but they've never been natural leaders in the locker room. Same with Sean Lee....VERY good player but guys don't respond to him. Dez? lol.....

Guys like Emmitt and Michael and Troy led by example and were never shy about speaking their mind. Nor was Ken Norton Jr. or Charles Haley or Darren Woodson or Erik Williams, etc.....leaders all OVER the place. Not so much anymore.
 

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Been that way for a long time. I love what Romo and JWIt have brought to this franchise on the field but they've never been natural leaders in the locker room. Same with Sean Lee....VERY good player but guys don't respond to him. Dez? lol.....

Guys like Emmitt and Michael and Troy led by example and were never shy about speaking their mind. Nor was Ken Norton Jr. or Charles Haley or Darren Woodson or Erik Williams, etc.....leaders all OVER the place. Not so much anymore.

Curious how you quantify that from an outside perspective?
 

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I'm not one to play devil's advocate..

but I am not able to really get my arms around what happened here this season.

I need to see what happens now and what we hear from some of the players who end up leaving.

There is something behind the scenes we haven't heard about yet.

Just a feeling I have.

Waiting for the dust to settle..

Every losing/disappointing season has "locker room" problems or some issue that needs an in depth expose to be reported on after the season.
We were one or two plays away in about 6 games this season that we converted last year.
There were about 4 games last year that we made those plays to secure victories.

My problem is the way this team is coached and the offense. Garrett owes Romo about 75% of his check.
This offense doesn't get our playmakers in the open field and relies on them to get open off their own abilities and Romo's accuracy.
Where are the pick plays, plays in motion, the slants, the bunch formations, screen plays, blitz busting slants/ins, etc.?

Why does it take so long to figure out the strengths of players on our roster (Dunbar, Escobar, Murray, Butler, etc.)
I'm just ranting but I think we win despite of Garrett.
 

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Thanks, Amy.

Clarence Hill needs a copy editor. He didn't proofread his story all that well.
Also, I wish he would have asked more probing questions like how did the young players show a lack of maturity, and what could players do to have a more successful season? Show up to film study on time? Give a little more in practice? Stop clowning around and laughing when Jason Garrett is talking during meetings?

Can we get a little more detail from a seasoned journalist?
 

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Been that way for a long time. I love what Romo and JWIt have brought to this franchise on the field but they've never been natural leaders in the locker room. Same with Sean Lee....VERY good player but guys don't respond to him. Dez? lol.....

Guys like Emmitt and Michael and Troy led by example and were never shy about speaking their mind. Nor was Ken Norton Jr. or Charles Haley or Darren Woodson or Erik Williams, etc.....leaders all OVER the place. Not so much anymore.

How would you know that? Please share more inside scoops since you are in the locker room and so close with the players.
 

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Perhaps he's speaking of a locker room issue? Who knows. But it's been some of the young guys (Lawrence, Mitchell, Whitehead, Olatoye, etc.), that have been making plays more recently.
 

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Every losing/disappointing season has "locker room" problems or some issue that needs an in depth expose to be reported on after the season.
We were one or two plays away in about 6 games this season that we converted last year.
There were about 4 games last year that we made those plays to secure victories.

My problem is the way this team is coached and the offense. Garrett owes Romo about 75% of his check.
This offense doesn't get our playmakers in the open field and relies on them to get open off their own abilities and Romo's accuracy.
Where are the pick plays, plays in motion, the slants, the bunch formations, screen plays, blitz busting slants/ins, etc.?

Why does it take so long to figure out the strengths of players on our roster (Dunbar, Escobar, Murray, Butler, etc.)
I'm just ranting but I think we win despite of Garrett.

You know for years we have to wait for next year.

I've watched this team since '65 and never seen such a reversal..

a 10 game swing in a year.

That"s eye-opening.

I mean I have seen us lose but usually it was after winning for a time and then coming down gradually due to aging players and some tough calls.

But this season was just a plummet.

And I have a hard time believing that a roster of 53 guys..most of whom were part of the 12-4 season..

less Romo and Dez for large parts of the season..

could only manage 4 wins.

Something is wrong here.
 

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Mincey may be hinting at something here............cant really tell from his remarks what he is trying to say without saying it directly.

Maybe that none of the guys listen to the coaches any more?

Don't know, just guessing at this point.
 

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Mincey may be hinting at something here............cant really tell from his remarks what he is trying to say without saying it directly.

Maybe that none of the guys listen to the coaches any more?

Don't know, just guessing at this point.

“Faith without works is dead,” Mincey said. “The key to thing is you have to have faith in the process. You have to have in yourself as a player. We have ways to go. Until we change our mentality and change our outlook on the game, we will be in the same situation and the same place. Until we change that, it’s going to be tough to move a notch higher.”

Sounds like he is listening to the coaches.

Add to it:

"It has to mean something to you," Mincey said. "I know how limited this situation is, how limited this opportunity is. Some guys just don’t understand that. That comes with time and that come with maturity and that comes with growth.

Seems he is saying there are some young guys who need to grow up.
 

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Mincey may be hinting at something here............cant really tell from his remarks what he is trying to say without saying it directly.

Maybe that none of the guys listen to the coaches any more?

Don't know, just guessing at this point.

I think as we have decidedly gone younger at all positions especially the defense..

the lack of experience becomes a factor.

Vets like Mincey are being moved out in favor of youth.

So immaturity is probably part of the equation.

Vets play more with an urgency because next year may not happen for them.

Younger guys tend to play with less urgency as they know next year is coming.

So I see his point. Of course, it maybe a self-serving statement for him as he isn't playing.
 

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I'm not one to play devil's advocate..

but I am not able to really get my arms around what happened here this season.

I need to see what happens now and what we hear from some of the players who end up leaving.

There is something behind the scenes we haven't heard about yet.

Just a feeling I have.

Waiting for the dust to settle..

true, and both witten and another player, both made angry statements about players who dont want to win should leave.
the only reason they would say that is if they had some players not giving 100% and or not caring about
winning.
Play for the check and fun of it.

Weeden made a comment about the lockeroom having his back, and so even though he is new there he liked it way better
Than cowboys lockeroom.

I think the cowboys are not a true team, they are small groups and individuals trying to play as a unit,
and some dont give 100 % all the time.
If some are not trying hard then others will let up, and after awhile, you have very few doing their best.
 

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I also have a theory that dez getting the big money other players can only dream about, and many felt
he doesnt deserve that or earn it , and this years events have made that worse.

So a guys making 500,000 to 3 mil a year are busting A and if they think dez isnt and he is making 12-13 mil
and with drops dehydrations etc, he is hurting the team, it could cause discord among players.

And then you have the dez mouth , I have no idea what he is saying, but some might not like it.

I also think many of the players felt Murray earned a big contract and got the shaft, and also that he
was important part of the team for a run this year, and the jones boys let the team down
by not keeping him, and if you look at those 2, many might think just hard work and effort doesnt pay
off, it did not with murray, but it did for dez who is not so rkg and hard working.

Murray is a example of a player doing all he could do , and having the good year, and 3 good ones prior,
and he was stiffed and low balled, so the other players will all see that , and think why kill yourself ?
just play for the check and stay healthy, if not here elsewhere. Forget the whole winning thing,
and add to that if they dont buy into JG's process t shirts , mannequins, and offense.
or marinelis defense.
 
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