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Crown Royal;1391503 said:
I still think it's funny that people think we will sign someone big. Signing Dielman or Steinbach will shock me more than if we don't sign them.

I agree...nor do I think we SHOULD sign either of those guys if they are gonna be getting 5-6-7mils a yr or more...niether of them are worth anywhere near that

a middle rd pick can come in and do virtually the same job either of those guys can do and wont cost anywhere near what they would

but too many remain inflicted with big name-itis

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I really doubt a middle round pick can come in and play like one of those two can. At best it will take a year for any rookie to really play at a high level. The number of rookies who come in and do like McNeill did out of all those picked in the top 3 rds over the last few years would barely take all the fingers of one hand. BIG BUSTITIS RISK.
 

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burmafrd;1391674 said:
I really doubt a middle round pick can come in and play like one of those two can. At best it will take a year for any rookie to really play at a high level. The number of rookies who come in and do like McNeill did out of all those picked in the top 3 rds over the last few years would barely take all the fingers of one hand. BIG BUSTITIS RISK.

Shane Olivia was a 7th rd pick for San Diego a few yrs back...came in, started every game at RT and did fine

and interior OL's are not difference makers nor do you need to invest huge dollars to get mroe than adequate production...a good OL coach can do wonders

and by the way, Dielman wasnt even drafted

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he paid Gurode like he was top tier. Mistake was not locking down a starting center until this year. Then Gurode flukes into the pro-bowl and we pay him like he is a perrenial pro-bowler, ouch.

Easy in hindsight and I am not sure they had a choice with the situation.
Foresight says they better find a young stud at wr very very soon.
 

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burmafrd;1391302 said:
Said spent too much last year and that it was "my fault". Does not want to pay "mid tier" like they are top tier-that is bad business.


This is actually one of the more intelligent comments I've heard from JJ in a long time. I think most FAs are overpriced and underproducing, especially most of the ones he signs. Too bad there's not too much to look forward to IF he's running the draft, with his putrid draft history.

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I hope he doesn't spend big for middle-of-the-road players. If they aren't there this year, draft what you need and see what happens next year.
 

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So when FA hits and we're sitting on our hands not signing anybody anyones ever heard of, everyone in here will be calm right?:laugh2:
 

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J.Jones21;1391366 said:
thats so wordy......just say Commanders Front Office.

RFO for short... or better still, MMM-- the Mad Midget's Minions...

We should make that shorthand for dumb football decisions made by any team... say "they just pulled out something I would have expected from MMM"...
 

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Woods;1391377 said:
Maybe JJ waits for the first week or two of FA to end before he makes his move? Some of the froth will be gone by then.

And if that happens, watch the fun as this board melts down...

Just like it does every year if Jerry doesn't sign a player or two right out of the gate... for that matter, even if he DOES sign a player or two right out of the gate, then follows that up with a few days of no signings, watch this board melt down...

I'm not just attacking this board, it's the same way on EVERY Cowboys board I frequent...
 

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ddh33;1391531 said:
I don't quite the see the fascination with the big money signings anyway. As someone else mentioned, instead of spending big money on a guard, it might make a lot more sense to draft a good young one.

Yeah, because the Cowboys have drafted SOOOO many good offensive linemen these last few years...

Seriously, doesn't the team's apparent inability to identify good linemen cause you to rethink that approach?? Personally, I'm not even sure they'd recognize a "good young one" if it walked up and bit them on their collective butts...

I expect the Cowboys to be selctive and picky. There's nothing wrong with that either.

No, there isn't... I'd just make an exception for a good, proven guard who can be plugged in at RG RIGHT NOW...

Dielman, Davis and Dockery... those are my big 3... I think Dielman's salary demands make him an unlikely signing (same with Steinbach), but Davis or Dockery would do just fine...
 

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silverbear;1391862 said:
Yeah, because the Cowboys have drafted SOOOO many good offensive linemen these last few years...

Seriously, doesn't the team's apparent inability to identify good linemen cause you to rethink that approach?? Personally, I'm not even sure they'd recognize a "good young one" if it walked up and bit them on their collective butts...



No, there isn't... I'd just make an exception for a good, proven guard who can be plugged in at RG RIGHT NOW...

Dielman, Davis and Dockery... those are my big 3... I think Dielman's salary demands make him an unlikely signing (same with Steinbach), but Davis or Dockery would do just fine...


I do agree that the recent draft history of O-Lineman is discouraging and downright scary. There are some good looking lineman in this draft though. It seems reasonable that this team will be able to find help without reaching.

As far as free agency is concerned, I do think that Dallas will be somewhat picky. I say that partly because of the draft fall-back option. But I also say that because I have heard and read several good things about Corey Procter.

I still expect Dallas to shop for a guard. I just don't think they are going to be desperate and go all out on the finances. I think Dallas is going to look for another Kyle Kosier kind of signing. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
 

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ddh33;1391912 said:
I do agree that the recent draft history of O-Lineman is discouraging and downright scary. There are some good looking lineman in this draft though. It seems reasonable that this team will be able to find help without reaching.

As far as free agency is concerned, I do think that Dallas will be somewhat picky. I say that partly because of the draft fall-back option. But I also say that because I have heard and read several good things about Corey Procter.

I still expect Dallas to shop for a guard. I just don't think they are going to be desperate and go all out on the finances. I think Dallas is going to look for another Kyle Kosier kind of signing. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

So, who is this year's Kosier?

Womack?

Personally, I hope we don't bust the bank trying to sign an OG, but I'm thinking Dockery would be a viable, cheaper alternative to Steinbach/Dielman.
 

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We need to get younger and better at RG. Just a matter of how we do it. And how much we pay.
 

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Woods;1391973 said:
So, who is this year's Kosier?

Womack?

Personally, I hope we don't bust the bank trying to sign an OG, but I'm thinking Dockery would be a viable, cheaper alternative to Steinbach/Dielman.

That's the big question to me - who is this year's Kosier?

I wonder about the Denver scheme, but Cooper Carlisle could be a possibility. They seem to be pretty high on Chris Kuper, so they might be willing to let Carlisle go to spend more on a pass rush.

Sean Mahan is an interesting guy in Tampa. He can play any of the interior positions.

Montrae Holland and Floyd Wommack are a little bigger, but they have played in schemes that should be somewhat similar to what Dallas will do.

Even a guy like Leander Jordan has crossed my mind.

With all of these Leonard Davis rumors, I actually think it's possible that Dallas views him as a nice option. If Columbo leaves, Davis could potentially be your RT. But because of his versatility, he could also be an answer inside. The Cowboys might like Corey Procter and/or Pat McQuistan. Getting someone like Leonard Davis would allow to play at least one of your younger players. If Procter impresses at guard, you put Davis at RT and go. If McQuistan is more impressive at RT, you could move Davis inside to guard and go. That versatility might really impress Dallas. But will it be enough to pay what is rumored to be a hefty price tag?
 
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