Jerry Jones hit the nail on the head

[Starstruck22]

Dallas had the right to know who the eligible receivers were on the 2 point conversion. Plain and simple.

Plays conceived to break the rules are not fair, devious, unscrupulous and the NFL should consider sanctions and fines going forward for such.

As the world turns, everyone is aware we are becoming as a world more unscrupulous where the ends justify the means and the NFL is no exception. Rules need to be modified to prevent unscrupulous coaches from winning by fraud.

 

[Ozone22]

Have to admit Jerry is correct on this one. Jerry Jones clarifying something is scary. Let me look outside and make sure pigs aren't flying.

 

[Starstruck22]

And i should add there is a clear and marked difference between deceptive plays within the rules and ones that are conceived to subvert the rules.
Campbell has now apparently reported he did this to confuse Dallas. This was obvious from the start.

 

[Starstruck22]

Have to admit Jerry is correct on this one. Jerry Jones clarifying something is scary. Let me look outside and make sure pigs aren't flying.

It is weird that Jerry is on target! LMAO

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Honestly the refs did Detroit a favor. Dallas knows it’s 68 and they pick the pass off and the game is over anyways. This play is hardly a big deal . It is hilarious tho Bc they thought they had won which is why it’s such a big story.

They had every right to run the same play again? Even 3 times apparently

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Dallas had the right to know who the eligible receivers were on the 2 point conversion. Plain and simple.

That's an excellent and succinct way of putting it. Could be a first time for Jerry!

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas had the right to know who the eligible receivers were on the 2 point conversion. Plain and simple.

Of course they did. Campbell tried but was unsuccessful in cheating.

 

[FanofJerry]

It was only scummy if Dan planned to shame officials into picking up the flag by pointing at them and telling them they were at fault.

We dont know if this is the case or not.

Trying to trick Dallas seems fair...as long as the plan was "Your fault you werent paying attention"

Seems like Dan's plan was too complicated and Dallas simply did what they were suppose to do and guarded the guy designated.

 

[OmerV]

Dallas had the right to know who the eligible receivers were on the 2 point conversion. Plain and simple.

Plays conceived to break the rules are not fair, devious, unscrupulous and the NFL should consider sanctions and fines going forward for such.

As the world turns, everyone is aware we are becoming as a world more unscrupulous where the ends justify the means and the NFL is no exception. Rules need to be modified to prevent unscrupulous coaches from winning by fraud.

I don't think the play was intended to break the rules, I just think in an effort to confuse Dallas with multiple linemen approaching the ref that they ended up confusing the ref.

 

[CowboyFrog]

It was only scummy if Dan planned to shame officials into picking up the flag by pointing at them and telling them they were at fault.

We dont know if this is the case or not.

Trying to trick Dallas seems fair...as long as the plan was "Youre fault you werent paying attention"

Seems like Dan's plan was too complicated and Dallas simply did what they were suppose to do and guarded the guy designated.

Thats the big question going now..it is crystal clear on the broadcast who the refs announced... are the Lions saying they didnt hear it? Or were they hoping the refs would let it stand even after telling the D who was eligible..

 

[FanofJerry]

Thats the big question going now..it is crystal clear on the broadcast who the refs announced... are the Lions saying they didnt hear it? Or were they hoping the refs would let it stand even after telling the D who was eligible..

They announced the thing over the intercom.

Maybe another benefit to this was if they hoped a flag would not have been thrown. Only 5 yard penalty supposedly.

Seems to be a few benefits to this layered onion in Detroits favor. Fortunately it didnt work.

I see no problem with the theatrics of sending 3 guys at the ref hoping to confuse Dallas. But...they designate and announce over the intercom for a reason...its still worth a shot, imo.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Dallas had the right to know who the eligible receivers were on the 2 point conversion. Plain and simple.

Plays conceived to break the rules are not fair, devious, unscrupulous and the NFL should consider sanctions and fines going forward for such.

As the world turns, everyone is aware we are becoming as a world more unscrupulous where the ends justify the means and the NFL is no exception. Rules need to be modified to prevent unscrupulous coaches from winning by fraud.

Gee Jerry, 70 only reported as eligible 6 times during the game already, there was no rules broken or plays to break the rules folks on the two point play, just a ref that assumed 70 was reporting when he it was actually 68...

 

[OmerV]

Thats the big question going now..it is crystal clear on the broadcast who the refs announced... are the Lions saying they didnt hear it? Or were they hoping the refs would let it stand even after telling the D who was eligible..

Campbell said it was loud on the field and they couldn't hear. The broadcast has mikes everywhere. Again, it doesn't make much sense that they would blatantly and intentionally kill their own play

 

[CowboyFrog]

Campbell said it was loud on the field and they couldn't hear. The broadcast has mikes everywhere. Again, it doesn't make much sense that they would blatantly and intentionally kill their own play

I agree it wouldnt make sense but tell me this, our team heard it, so your telling me that the HC OC,QB coach, passing coord, OL coach, coaches in the press boxes up stairs players on the field (same field our players were on that heard it) and no one on there side heard it? again i get your logic but the other logic seems just as crazy...

 

[Starstruck22]

That's an excellent and succinct way of putting it. Could be a first time for Jerry!

indeed it was parsimonious and brilliant……why everyone was chasing the obfuscation is beyond me. It was clear it was orchestrated fraud from the begging. Not fooled by any of it. And look at the source of the scam. There will be more.

 

[silvernblu]

Thats the big question going now..it is crystal clear on the broadcast who the refs announced... are the Lions saying they didnt hear it? Or were they hoping the refs would let it stand even after telling the D who was eligible..

The latter

 

[Starstruck22]

I don't think the play was intended to break the rules, I just think in an effort to confuse Dallas with multiple linemen approaching the ref that they ended up confusing the ref.

You simply refuse to get it. Of course it was. What is the point of the obfuscation except to prevent dallas from knowing what the rule says they have a right to know. Please people this is really simple. 2 plus 2 simple. If it was a play that did not involve a specific rule and the attempt to obviate it, that would be a different situation. What many on here cannot seem to ascertain is that there are plays that involve deception (motion, change of direction, play action, fake punt) that do not seek to subvert a rule and there are plays that attempt to subvert rules. There is a distinct difference. If you are saying Campbell never intended to subvert the rule, but his actions belie this theory.

 

[The Natural]

bush league garbage from Detroit

 

[CowboyFrog]

You simply refuse to get it. Of course it was. What is the point of the obfuscation except to prevent dallas from knowing what the rule says they have a right to know. Please people this is really simple. 2 plus 2 simple. If it was a play that did not involve a specific rule and the attempt to obviate it, that would be a different situation. What many on here cannot seem to ascertain is that there are plays that involve deception (motion, change of direction, play action, fake punt) that do not seek to subvert a rule and there are plays that attempt to subvert rules. There is a distinct difference. If you are saying Campbell never intended to subvert the rule, but his actions belie this theory.

OmerV is one of the most level posters on this site, i get his logic here but i do find it hard to believe they didnt hear the announcment also.

 

[Starstruck22]

Gee Jerry, 70 only reported as eligible 6 times during the game already, there was no rules broken or plays to break the rules folks on the two point play, just a ref that assumed 70 was reporting when he it was actually 68...

70 reported and brad allen ackowledged…..if decker had reported. Brad would have clarified. It was no mistake, no confusion, all planned.