Twitter: Jerry Jones on 105.3 - Nothing medically to prevent Romo from playing - 10/29/14

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I hope these shots and meds don't affect Romo on the field. He seemed out of sorts Monday night. He didn't see the blitzes coming (or he would've rolled out) and he wasn't seeing the field very well. I hope it was just a hiccup game and not related to pain killers.

Good point. The meds may relieve the pain, but I'd have to believe they also have some affect on attention/reaction times.
 

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There you go projecting your fantasies again. Hopefully this week we'll bounce back and you'll be forced to crawl under your rock again for another six weeks.

Hey, no worries, even if Romo doesn't start, you can still wear your Tony jammies all day long, sport.
 

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Haslett believes that Romo does not do well in all out blitz situations. He believes that because Tony won't stand in and take the hit to beat the blitz, but instead, will try to evade, it allows for the Defense to only have to be concerned with covering for a very limited amount of time, rather then having to stick to receivers for a longer period of time. He counts on this, which is why you see him bring 8 so much against Tony. Because Tony wasn't throwing the ball very accurately, that only feed into the blitz and we saw the results. Jim Haslett is not a revolutionary genius DC. He's a guy who thinks he's identified something with Tony and uses it against him every time we play them.

How many times have you read comments like, "See this every game from Washington. How are we still not prepared for the all out blitz?" It's because that's the book on Tony in Haslett's eyes. He has young CBs. If he leaves them out there to cover, they are going to be burnt toast. He really has no other choice then to play us this way. That means that Tony is always going to have to account for the 8th man, that's his man to beat. Now, you either do that with your feet and make the man miss or you hang in and burn the Blitz for 6 or big gains down the field or, you can use your running game to limit the times a defense can use the all out blitz by picking up good yards on 1st and 2nd down and force a team that use an 8 man blitz to make a decision. If you choose to use the all out blitz against a team who can effectively run on short 3rd down situations, you are going to lose a healthy number of those battles.

We didn't do that on Monday night. We ran the ball effectively but we went to play action a lot on 2nd down. That created longer 3rd down situations for the Offense, which played into the hands of what Haslett and the Skins wanted to do all along. That was on us. We did that to ourselves IMO. The TOs and drops didn't help, certainly, but our offensive game plan played a very significant role in the lose as well, IMO. Again, if you bring the house on the blitz, the 8th guy is always going to be the QBs man to beat. It doesn't matter how good your OL plays, that guy is going to be the QBs.

We needed to trust our running game and limit the exposure of our QB. We didn't do a very good job of that IMO.

Agreed, and it seemed the Skins had been schooled on Romo's spin move as they where going for where he was going as opposed to where he was.

Murray had 12 rushes at half time and Romo had 19 pass attempts, I said to myself if Murray's carry number is not at 27 or higher by the end of the game, we lose this game.

I am not sure why they lost confidence in it or went away from it, it seems in their first divisional game they reverted to some bad habits.
 

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I think they are all covering up that he is hurt and has been hurt all year and came back too fast from the back injury.

You're probably right tbh (Romo didn't look right until NO) and this team does have a history of hiding Romo's injuries (cyst :rolleyes:?)
 

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They can. It depends on the severity of the bruise and the area. Remember that it's not just mobility. It's mobility and the ability to actually throw with enough strength to hit the receivers available. It's also the ability to throw accurately, while moving. If you know Tony is having issues with the long to intermediate routes, what do you think he will see open next week?

Tony has to be able to do all of these things accurately against Arizona.

I saw the play and I'm not buying it.
 

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I saw the play and I'm not buying it.

I don't know what play you are referring to but it doesn't really matter.

Nothing in his play on Monday, before or after the injury, suggested to me that he was able to account for the Blitz. It could have been an off night or it might be something else. However, history suggest that he does not play well against that type of pressure.
 

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Haslett believes that Romo does not do well in all out blitz situations. He believes that because Tony won't stand in and take the hit to beat the blitz, but instead, will try to evade, it allows for the Defense to only have to be concerned with covering for a very limited amount of time, rather then having to stick to receivers for a longer period of time. He counts on this, which is why you see him bring 8 so much against Tony. Because Tony wasn't throwing the ball very accurately, that only feed into the blitz and we saw the results. Jim Haslett is not a revolutionary genius DC. He's a guy who thinks he's identified something with Tony and uses it against him every time we play them.

How many times have you read comments like, "See this every game from Washington. How are we still not prepared for the all out blitz?" It's because that's the book on Tony in Haslett's eyes. He has young CBs. If he leaves them out there to cover, they are going to be burnt toast. He really has no other choice then to play us this way. That means that Tony is always going to have to account for the 8th man, that's his man to beat. Now, you either do that with your feet and make the man miss or you hang in and burn the Blitz for 6 or big gains down the field or, you can use your running game to limit the times a defense can use the all out blitz by picking up good yards on 1st and 2nd down and force a team that use an 8 man blitz to make a decision. If you choose to use the all out blitz against a team who can effectively run on short 3rd down situations, you are going to lose a healthy number of those battles.

We didn't do that on Monday night. We ran the ball effectively but we went to play action a lot on 2nd down. That created longer 3rd down situations for the Offense, which played into the hands of what Haslett and the Skins wanted to do all along. That was on us. We did that to ourselves IMO. The TOs and drops didn't help, certainly, but our offensive game plan played a very significant role in the lose as well, IMO. Again, if you bring the house on the blitz, the 8th guy is always going to be the QBs man to beat. It doesn't matter how good your OL plays, that guy is going to be the QBs.

We needed to trust our running game and limit the exposure of our QB. We didn't do a very good job of that IMO.

The question that arises is this.

Why then don't they use the screen and a controlled roll out to defeat this blitz?
 

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I don't know what play you are referring to but it doesn't really matter.

Nothing in his play on Monday, before or after the injury, suggested to me that he was able to account for the Blitz. It could have been an off night or it might be something else. However, history suggest that he does not play well against that type of pressure.

Haslett really fooled him. Garrett and Linehan have to help Romo over this.

If Romo's injury is just pain related, he should play.
 

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The question that arises is this.

Why then don't they use the screen and a controlled roll out to defeat this blitz?

This is why I think it has to be on Tony and what he feels more comfortable with. We have been through multiple OCs and have really never utilized this much. All of them could not have simply been unprepared or felt as if it wouldn't work. The Skins have used this against us for a long time now and had success. The constant, through all of this is Tony. It has to be based on what Tony likes to do in the offense, more so then the OCs IMO.
 

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That, and you don't recover from a bad spine.

Peyton Mannings surgery was much worse at 37. Herniated disc surgery has a 95% success rate and after three months the chance for a re-occurence is about 5%.
 

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Peyton Mannings surgery was much worse at 37. Herniated disc surgery has a 95% success rate and after three months the chance for a re-occurence is about 5%.

Payton is apples and oranges, and the 95% success rate is not pro football players.

Here's what's going on, Tony has re-injured his back, he will be in pain every game for the rest of the year, if he returns he has a large chance he'll injure it further. How many times have you seen him grab his back this season all ready? Did you all see the mans face when he was lying there? With the look of "this is it" on his face?
They are gunning for him. If he can finish out the season, somebody needs to sit him down and explain to him what life will be like when he hits 50.

I want a super bowl too, but I don't want to see that pathetic display of him hoping around in a circle then almost throwing a pick 6 at the end of the game. It's not always the happy ending NFL players live with, Roger and Troy both left before they wanted to and Tony will also.
 

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This is why I think it has to be on Tony and what he feels more comfortable with. We have been through multiple OCs and have really never utilized this much. All of them could not have simply been unprepared or felt as if it wouldn't work. The Skins have used this against us for a long time now and had success. The constant, through all of this is Tony. It has to be based on what Tony likes to do in the offense, more so then the OCs IMO.

So, you're saying Romo is not comfortable with screens and roll outs? I can buy in to that, but can find no logic in Romo's thinking about why he would limit the plays which conventionally counter the all out blitz. But I am not he.
 

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Agreed, and it seemed the Skins had been schooled on Romo's spin move as they where going for where he was going as opposed to where he was.

Murray had 12 rushes at half time and Romo had 19 pass attempts, I said to myself if Murray's carry number is not at 27 or higher by the end of the game, we lose this game.

I am not sure why they lost confidence in it or went away from it, it seems in their first divisional game they reverted to some bad habits.

They went away from the run because they thought they could beat the all out blitz by throwing. Like you I sat there scratching my head wondering why we abandoned what won us six in a row. On a week when everyone started eating crow to.;)
 

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So, you're saying Romo is not comfortable with screens and roll outs? I can buy in to that, but can find no logic in Romo's thinking about why he would limit the plays which conventionally counter the all out blitz. But I am not he.

I don't think it's his favorite. I think he's more aligned with extending plays against the rush and making plays downfield. I have nothing to confirm that but it's logical to assume that if Tony liked Screens, we would run more of them.

JMO
 

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I don't think it's his favorite. I think he's more aligned with extending plays against the rush and making plays downfield. I have nothing to confirm that but it's logical to assume that if Tony liked Screens, we would run more of them.

JMO

Screens would be great, but rolling out not only negates stepping into his throws, it's also conducive to torqueing his back when he throws. Not good.
 

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Screens would be great, but rolling out not only negates stepping into his throws, it's also conducive to torqueing his back when he throws. Not good.

If he can't roll out to throw the ball, then he shouldn't be playing IMO. I mean, rolling out and throwing is nothing in comparison to what he will need to do to avoid all out blitz packages. JMO thou.
 

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Last year, the initial reporting on the severity of the injury was less then accurate as well. I mean, I understand why you might do this, it's not rocket science. However, as fans, I think we should understand that the possibility is always there that the club is not reporting everything. If you were them, would you?

When games are to be played they have to report the injury. They can't underplay the severity of the injury.
 
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