mr.jameswoods;1834710 said:
Parcells did a great job assembling most of this team but he isn't the only reason we are 12-1. Sorry but his harsh demeanor, insistence upon starting over-the-hill vets that were loyal to him and conservative playcalling held this team back. I still think he is a great coach the same way I think Marty Schottenheimer is a great coach.
Here's the problem with your theory relative to the "Parcell's worshippers": Had you left your statement above as is but added "only" where I did, you might not get too many people who would disagree. But that's not enough for people who feel that the only way to prop up Jerry, or Wade or anyone else is by knocking on BP.
mr.jameswoods;1834710 said:
The Bill Bellichek theory was proven to be true and the record reflects that. Parcells best years were with Bellichek and his defense was never as dominant when he didn't have Bellichek. Bellichek made Parcells and he will likely win another championship or two which make him arguably the greatest NFL coach of all time.
Contradiction can be a beautiful thing in a world of denial. I can go back and say the Jimmy Johnson theory has been proven correct with regards to Jerry and use your same argument but people like you would blow up in your defense of him. But it's OK to use the BP / Bellicheat line. That's old and worn out. Bellicheat failed miserably in Cleavland. So miserably in fact that he didn't even sniff another HC job and went back to BP. Who made who? BP then paved the way for Bellichek to take the Jets HC job after Parcell's left; say what you want, but BP was loyal to him to the end. Bellickek took the NE job and was one 6th round pick HOF QB away from mediocrity. BP won SB's with Phil Simms, who was nearly perfect in the SB, and Hostetler, a back-up QB. He then won with a converted safety (Ray Lucas), a drug addict QB in Quincy and an undrafted FA in Romo. See a pattern here? Probably not since your blinders aren't limitted to the side of your eyes. BP built teams and restored franchises wherever he's gone. Bellicheat did/does not and failed in Cleavland and is suceeding with Brady, arguably one of the greatest QB's of our generation.
mr.jameswoods;1834710 said:
Jerry Jones deserves a lot of credit. He single handedly picked Jason Garrett to be the OC when many thought he was too inexperienced to be given such a big responsibility. He kept hired TO and signed guys like Leonard Davis in the offseason. He also threw everyone like myself a red herring and signed Wade Phillips who many thought was just a veteran coach who had been working the circuit and didn't deserve another head coaching job.
Of course Jerry deserves allot of credit, guys like you need to consistantly point that out and remind people. But let me ask you this. If Romo is not here, are we 12 and 1? If we bring in Wade, JG, TO, Davis and Hamlin does it even remotely have the same impact without a Pro-Bowl QB? Does JG have the same impact if he was the OC in Miami with Cleo Lemmon as his QB?
mr.jameswoods;1834710 said:
I think there are a lot of Parcells worshippers on this site that are still loyal to him and want to give him credit whenever they can. Nonetheless, I don't think anyone truly believes we would have this success with Parcells as the head coach still.
Change your quote to read the following: "I think there are a lot of Jerry/Wade worshippers on this site that are still loyal to him and want to give him credit whenever they can. Nonetheless, I don't think anyone truly believes we would have this success with Jerry as GM had Parcells not been hired as HC."
See what I mean....probably not. But if you agree that Bellicheat made BP, then do you agree in the converse that Jimmy Johnson made Jerry? That Romo is making JG and Wade? Hell no, that's taboo in your world. Jerry hired BP, just like BP hired Bellichek. But in your world, the subordinate made the boss, unless, of course, the boss is Jerry, then he gets the credit.