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When the Cowboys D doesn’t generate turnovers, it seems like they struggle to win, which is why I call turnovers “fools gold”.

When teams get to the playoffs, they’re facing better, more disciplined competition who are less likely to turn it over.

Can’t count on turnovers, especially in the playoffs.
 

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Some here measure success based on regular season results.
Others like me base their standards on postseason wins.

Opinions vary.

i am not a Jason Garrett fan. But here are the facts:
Jason Garrett was 40-24 in his last 64 games.
Mike McCarthy is 40-24 in his last 64 games.
Jason Garrett won the East twice during this time and a 1-2 playoff record.
McCarthy is in contention for his 2nd NFCE title and is also 1-2 in the playoffs.

I just thought McCarthy was hired to achieve better than Clapper standards.

I'll get back with ya after this year's post season results. I am not confident he will win more than one playoff game, if even that.

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Well, you have to have regular season success to get to the post season, so it is measurement of success.

Curious your thoughts on the following scenario...which team is more successful team A made the playoffs once out of 4 years and lost in the Conference championship game (2-1) or Team B made the playoffs as division Champs 4 years in a row and were 0-4 in the playoffs.
 

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I think DQ's stuborness might be because he does not have the horses for a tough on the nose ground defense.

His scheme is built on speed, they can not stop the run, and that's a problem.
 

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The Cowboys have the 3rd best record in the NFL through 14 games. They currently sit as the #2 seed in the NFC, and are playing the #2 seed in the AFC this coming weekend, and the #3 seed in the NFC the following weekend. No one is underperforming.

Run defense is a personnel problem. The Cowboys spent 2 of their first 3 picks in the 2023 draft on a DT and LB. They need to repeat that in 2024, and continue repeating until they get the interior of the front 7 fixed.
Need an impact free agent to speed up the process. Or trade do we have someone we can trade.
 

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Well, you have to have regular season success to get to the post season, so it is measurement of success.

Curious your thoughts on the following scenario...which team is more successful team A made the playoffs once out of 4 years and lost in the Conference championship game (2-1) or Team B made the playoffs as division Champs 4 years in a row and were 0-4 in the playoffs.
The one that made the Conference Championship.
0-4 represents wasted seasons to me.
2007 and 2016 as the #1 seed were wasted seasons imo.

You might be surprised at others here measuring Cowboy team success by postseason wins as well.
Like I said, opinions vary.

As long as you don't go all Rambo2 on me, it's all good and I can respect your opinion too.
I just think he's an undercover Jones family member here that's all, lol.
 
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Interesting enough since 2016, the Cowboys are 3rd in winning percentage (1 game behind the ravens as a result of this weekends games), 2nd in pts scored (3rd in Tds) and 2nd in points allowed.

Overall the team is performing at a high level in the regular season. It's just underperformed in 4 playoff games.
If you're measuring stick for NFL success is stuff that happens during the regular season then you have your standards.

I go by the whole 5 (or is it 6 now? lol)post season wins they've managed to accomplish in the last 28 years. A couple other Zoners here measure success the same way.

No biggie though, I realize there is a regular season advocacy group here as well.

I can respect that.
 

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I really could care less about what Jerry says. He’s predictable .

On a more relevant note to the debacle in Buffalo what happened to all this talk about Dak getting rid of the call quickly in this revamped West Coast offense . I saw alot of deep drops followed by a sack .

Home or road some teams execute the game plan week to week . If you can’t win on the road and I don’t mean the Meadowlands or that toilet the Commders play in then you cannot win a Lombardi trophy .
 

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Winning 2nd most games the last 3 years behind the Chiefs doesn't define mediocrity to me.
Depends where you have your bar set. Surely you didn't fail to notice how the Chiefs seasons have ended the past 3 seasons. How did their seasons compare to Dallas again?

Have we really reached a point as Cowboys fans that we have to celebrate regular season records?
 

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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan on head coach Mike McCarthy: “He’s coached three playoff teams in a row. I think he’s done an outstanding job. … I frankly said to the (coaching) staff yesterday, ‘You got us in this spot to be as disappointed as we are about the Buffalo game. It’s your fault because y’all have done such a great job this year getting our team to have the expectations that we have (this season).’

“Part of the best part of our team this year has been the coaching staff.”

That line should be on Jerry's ridiculous HOF plaque. "Jerry always put the team in a spot to be disappointed". Profound.
 

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Depends where you have your bar set. Surely you didn't fail to notice how the Chiefs seasons have ended the past 3 seasons. How did their seasons compare to Dallas again?

Have we really reached a point as Cowboys fans that we have to celebrate regular season records?
Yep. Good call.
Personal bars or standards of what you consider a successful season.

My version is not a bunch of regular season wins and then another one and done or divisional loss ceiling.

I see those as wasted seasons while others seem to enjoy that one game at a time keep hope alive journey.

To each his own.
 

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Just like it was too early to make any judgements on this season 2 weeks ago..it’s still too early to pass any judgement in the other direction now..what happens in the postseason will tell the story
That needs to be the focus. Anyone who thought Dallas wasn't going to lose some games this season is being unrealistic, but the team also shouldn't be judged on mostly beating up on bad teams. The coaches should be judged on how the team does in the playoffs. Just making the playoffs should not be the goal even if not every team does it.
 

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The key to NFL team success is the performance of the GM, HC and QB against their NFL peers.

I just can't figure out which one is under performing more or is it all 3?
They all perform great against subpar teams and bad against elite organizations. Hence our mediocrity
 

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I really could care less about what Jerry says. He’s predictable .

On a more relevant note to the debacle in Buffalo what happened to all this talk about Dak getting rid of the call quickly in this revamped West Coast offense . I saw alot of deep drops followed by a sack .

Home or road some teams execute the game plan week to week . If you can’t win on the road and I don’t mean the Meadowlands or that toilet the Commders play in then you cannot win a Lombardi trophy .
Yeah, Dak could “suddenly see everything” or “like learning a new language” or “when i watch other QBs i wonder they cant see what i see” LOL
 

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Another happy meal dished out by JJ. How about being dissatisfied with losing, especially when you get your arse handed to you. I am not about doom and gloom, but this is too soft. Great football minds never liked losing and never gave out hugs after you got bullied.
This^^^^
I am so sick of the sunshine pumping.
Do we have a GM or a Circus Master?
PT Barnum would be proud of Jerry.
 

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Interesting enough since 2016, the Cowboys are 3rd in winning percentage (1 game behind the ravens as a result of this weekends games), 2nd in pts scored (3rd in Tds) and 2nd in points allowed.

Overall the team is performing at a high level in the regular season. It's just underperformed in 4 playoff games.
I would be curious our winning % against playoff teams during the regular season during that time frame.
We seem to make our living beating cupcakes.
 

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I would be curious our winning % against playoff teams during the regular season during that time frame.
We seem to make our living beating cupcakes.
Yet no other team is capable of making their living beating the cupcakes. Given our highest winning percentage, your hypothesis assumes that 1) Dallas plays a significantly higher amount of cupcakes or 2) other teams aren't even capable of beating the cupcake teams on their schedule at the rate that dallas does.

I'm pretty sure over an 8 year period, strength of schedule all starts to even out.
 

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If you're measuring stick for NFL success is stuff that happens during the regular season then you have your standards.

I go by the whole 5 (or is it 6 now? lol)post season wins they've managed to accomplish in the last 28 years. A couple other Zoners here measure success the same way.

No biggie though, I realize there is a regular season advocacy group here as well.

I can respect that.
I measure success in stages...to have any post season success, you have to make the playoffs...so you have to have regular season success first. Then you can measure post season success (or failure as we have experienced mostly in the past 28 years).

For many on here who state they only measure post season success, i have seen getting to the NFCCG as a the redline for success. I don't understand why that artificial marker is used. Why not SB champion or bust... i mean that is the ultimate goal.
 
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