Jersey numbers for draft class

[OmerV]

Where is your proof that Blue refused to want jersey #23 but instead now wants #34?

I'm willing to bet he would prefer #23.

Where is your proof he wanted 23 and was turned down? That works both ways.

And even if he was, so what? Buddy Johnson is a veteran who was on the team last year, and while mainly just a special teams player, 23 is his number and a 5th round rookie doesn't have automatic dibs a number that belongs to a veteran. Hell, you read at times about even top players coming in having to arrange a deal with a veteran that has the number they want

Reality is none of us know, and it's really not the melodrama it is being made out to be here.

 

[OmerV]

No numbers are "officially" retired but for the past several years nobody has been assigned 8 (Aikman), 22 (Emmitt/Hayes), 74 (Lilly), and, recently, 82 for Witten. Two players wore 12 before Staubach (QB John Roach and punter Rod Widby) but nobody has worn it in a regular season game since.

Right. That's the point of the Ring of Honor - to recognize the top players without officially retiring their number. Obviously there are numbers the Cowboys have witheld, but there has to be a limit.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Where is your proof he wanted 23 and was turned down? That works both ways.

And even if he was, so what? Buddy Johnson is a veteran who was on the team last year, and while mainly just a special teams player, 23 is his number and a 5th round rookie doesn't have automatic dibs a number that belongs to a veteran. Hell, you read at times about even top players coming in having to arrange a deal with a veteran that has the number they want

Reality is none of us know, and it's really not the melodrama it is being made out to be here.

Bull. There has been a pattern in recent years of this front office being responsible for such jersey number questions. It's like they love creating drama. Common sense Jaydon Blue would want to wear the same jersey number. The same happened to DeMarvion.

 

[OmerV]

Bull. There has been a pattern in recent years of this front office being responsible for such jersey number questions. It's like they love creating drama. Common sense Jaydon Blue would want to wear the same jersey number. The same happened to DeMarvion.

You seem to be the one creating drama. lol. You're choosing to make assumptions and to react dramatically.

Again, you can't speak for Blue & for all we know you are more concerned about him having No. 23 than he is.


But even if you are right, again, a 5th round rookie doesn't just get to walk in and take a number away from a returning veteran.

* Have you really never read a story where even top players coming to a team had to make a deal with a veteran to get their preferred number? That has happened many times.

* Other times players just accept a different number than they previously wore because they don't care that much.

 

[America's Cowboy]

You seem to be the one creating drama. lol. You're choosing to make assumptions and to react dramatically.

Again, you can't speak for Blue, and for all we know you are more concerned about him having No. 23 than he is.

But even if you are right, again, a 5th round rookie doesn't just get to walk in and take a number away from a returning veteran.
*Have you really never read a story where even top players coming to a team had to make a deal with a veteran to get their preferred number? That has happened many times. Other times players just accept a different number than they previously wore because they don't care that much.

You clearly didn't play football, much less be a starter. If you did, you wouldn't be arguing with me because you would know where I'm coming from.

 

[jazzcat22]

I hear you, but the Cowboys can't make the the numbers of every high quality player off limits. I'm thinking only Staubach and Lilly's numbers have remained unused over the years. Not sure if anyone used 12 before Staubach, but nobody could have used 74 before Lilly

8, 12, 22 will never be used again. Though they are not officially retired.
88 could have been in that group as welll, but Irvin was proud it was worn if given to the right player. Now Jerry uses it as a tradition.

74 has been handed out in TC before, Only because lack of numbers. When positions had assigned numbers But will not be given out for regular season. But now with players wearing any number, we will see if that happens again.

I believe one time a player had 74 during TC, made the team and was given a new number.

 

[OmerV]

You clearly didn't play football, much less be a starter. If you did, you wouldn't be arguing with me because you would know where I'm coming from.

You're now resorting to strawman arguments after 1st going with arguments based you you claiming to know everything Jerry, Blue and everyone else thinks and feels, and ignoring the fact that it is not uncommon for rookies, especially lower draft picks, to not get their college jersey. Additionally you ignore that rookies, again, especially lower round draft picks, don't automatically get to take a number away from a returning veteran. Hell, they don't even automatically make the team.

So yeah, I quit football after 9th grade and focused on basketball and baseball, but that's irrelevant to anything i have written.

Hell, even if you use high school or college as examples, the freshman or sophomore making varsity for the first time doesn't get to walk in an take the number away from a returning veteran, so your argument fails anyway.

 

[OmerV]

8, 12, 22 will never be used again. Though they are not officially retired.
88 could have been in that group as welll, but Irvin was proud it was worn if given to the right player. Now Jerry uses it as a tradition.

74 has been handed out in TC before, Only because lack of numbers. When positions had assigned numbers But will not be given out for regular season. But now with players wearing any number, we will see if that happens again.

I believe one time a player had 74 during TC, made the team and was given a new number.

Right, but that's a limited few. As I said, it can't extend to every top Cowboy over the years.

 

[jazzcat22]

You clearly didn't play football, much less be a starter. If you did, you wouldn't be arguing with me because you would know where I'm coming from.

Choosing or not choosing a number gives no indication if someone played sports or not. This is by far one of the worst analogies I ever seen.

 

[gimmesix]

Sanborn wanted his old 57 and Johnson obliged. Both players are veterans. It's kind of an unwritten rule, but Buddy Johnson has been in the NFL for over 4 years and doesn't have to give up his jersey number to a 5th round rookie if he doesn't want to.

Is it silly? Yes. Does it make sense? No. But for now, Blue won't get 23 until Johnson agrees or gets cut. Both could happen anyway.

And who knows if Blue even wants 23. I mean, has he said that he has specific ties to 23? That it means something special to him?

 

[gimmesix]

Two players are wearing 27. Two players are wearing 7. Two players are wearing 14.

If Blue wanted 23 now he could have it. Perhaps he chose 34 himself. Why is this being turned into an issue?

When Sanborn signed he wanted 57 from Johnson and got it. Johnson, at the time, PICKED 23. He could have also had 50, 52, or 55- ALL were available at the time (pre-draft).

Why are we making it sound like Jerry and Stephen are sitting around preventing players from wearing numbers now?

As far as I know, there have only been a few cases where the Joneses have told a player the number he was going to wear. I think that has mainly happened with 88 and 94.

Frankly, I like having the legacy numbers passed on to the next great, but at the same time, I also like the possibility of having a great player for each number. It would be strange, for example, if both Tony Dorsett and Emmitt had worn 33. As is, when you think of 33, you think of Dorsett and when you think of 22, you think of Emmitt.

 

[Texas_Pete]

This is not right.

 

[OmerV]

As far as I know, there have only been a few cases where the Joneses have told a player the number he was going to wear. I think that has mainly happened with 88 and 94.

Frankly, I like having the legacy numbers passed on to the next great, but at the same time, I also like the possibility of having a great player for each number. It would be strange, for example, if both Tony Dorsett and Emmitt had worn 33. As is, when you think of 33, you think of Dorsett and when you think of 22, you think of Emmitt.

Of course for those enough old enough to remember, 22 was firmly entrenched in our minds as Bob Hayes number. Granted Emmitt is now the standard for 22.

 

[gimmesix]

And who knows if Blue even wants 23. I mean, has he said that he has specific ties to 23? That it means something special to him?

Ah, I see where he was going to wear 23 because of Tashard Choice. I guess he may have changed his mind.

 

[gimmesix]

Of course for those enough old enough to remember, 22 was firmly entrenched in our minds as Bob Hayes number. Granted Emmitt is now the standard for 22.

True. I remember Bullet Bob to an extent, but not to the extent of Emmitt. I kind of came in on the back end of Hayes' career. Drew Pearson and Tony Hill were my guys.

 

[Risen Star]

Ezeiruaku says he would like to keep #6 or at least a single digit number.

He's willing to wait for the team to sort things out before reminding them that he's Donovan Ezeiruaku.

 

[Risen Star]

Where is your proof he wanted 23 and was turned down? That works both ways.

Where is your proof that he has no proof?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Choosing or not choosing a number gives no indication if someone played sports or not. This is by far one of the worst analogies I ever seen.

Yet, I got proven correct.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

#34 for Blue?

Why is the Cowboys front office refusing to give Jaydon Blue his original college #23 jersey? Yes, we all know LB Buddy Johnson currently has #23, but he was forced to receive #23 this offseason after the Cowboys signed LB Jack Sanborn and gave him Buddy Johnson's previous #57 jersey. Besides, a #23 is supposed to be for a running back, NOT A LINEBACKER!!!

This is the same crap this front office pulled the past 2 seasons against DeMarvion Overshown. Quit playing stupid PROVE IT games and simply give Jaydon Blue #23! SMH. Can't stand when this front office acts like bully kids...

I'd imagine a lot of these numbers will change when we get to the regular season.

 

[America's Cowboy]

This is not right.

Where are the front office excusers? I would love to hear their excuse and try to deflect from blaming the front office for this disrespectful transaction.