Jimmy Johnson and the return to the 4-3

Aikbach;1281348 said:
What would you get for TO in a trade...DeAngelo Hall?

Spit Fight Raw II....pay-per-view for $1.95
hosted by Mike "ear eating" Tyson
 
JPM;1284124 said:
Parcells is a good coach. Zimmer is a disaster, a train wreck even.

Well then you need to cart of Parcells to the asylum since he is the willing conductor of the train that keeps wrecking.
 
Jimmy is not coming back,and even if he does is he bringing all the coordinators,emmitt,troy,irvin,etc... with him?
 
juckie;1284597 said:
Jimmy is not coming back,and even if he does is he bringing all the coordinators,emmitt,troy,irvin,etc... with him?

Don't be so sure, anything can happen;)
 
JPM;1284263 said:
Yeah, he hasn't upgraded the talent on this team.

What good is talent when they are coached by idiots. Parcells needs to go. They all do.
 
dragon_mikal;1284606 said:
What good is talent when they are coached by idiots. Parcells needs to go. They all do.


Yes they do, but is there anyway to fire the root problem, Jerry?
 
dbair1967;1284126 said:
Parcells WAS a good coach...that was along time ago

he's now a liability

David

After 4 years of mediocrity at Miami then 6 years out of the league, what evidence do we have that Jimmy is anything better?
 
BP really needed one player in this draft to step up big this year, be it Watkins, Carp, Hatcher, etc. We just need one of those guys to play slightly better and make a few plays and we'd be fine. Instead we're still trying to groom players, while making a playoff run at the same time - which rarely works.
 
wileedog;1284625 said:
After 4 years of mediocrity at Miami then 6 years out of the league, what evidence do we have that Jimmy is anything better?

Three Super Bowls and he turned a team from 1-15 to one of the best teams ever. Thats enough incentive for me.
 
GoinForSix;1284638 said:
Three Super Bowls and he turned a team from 1-15 to one of the best teams ever. Thats enough incentive for me.

no free agency and salary cap will do that.
 
Jimmy is never coming back, its time for some people to realize this and move on.
 
BigDFan5;1284709 said:
Jimmy is never coming back, its time for some people to realize this and move on.
:signmast:

Echo this.

Not saying I wouldn't love it. Just don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of it happening.
 
GoinForSix;1284638 said:
Three Super Bowls and he turned a team from 1-15 to one of the best teams ever. Thats enough incentive for me.

2 Superbowls with no free agency or cap. Not to mention a boatload of draft picks.

Parcells also has 2 SBs, and built two other seperate contenders, something Jimmy failed to do. As mentioned Jimmy is now 6 years out of the game, twice as long as any hiatus Bill has ever taken.

This pining for Jimmy is amusing.
 
juckie;1284707 said:
no free agency and salary cap will do that.

Well our only competition back then was the 49ers and Bills, and I'm sure they wouldn't have been nearly as competitive with the cap either.
 
Hostile;1284728 said:
:signmast:

Echo this.

Not saying I wouldn't love it. Just don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of it happening.

After seeing them on the pregame show and hearing Jimmy's recent comments, I'm a tad bit more optimistic. Jimmy sees an opportunity to be mentioned with the likes of Lombardi and Landry if he comes back to Dallas and wins another title, especially in a different era with the salary cap.
 
GoinForSix;1284786 said:
After seeing them on the pregame show and hearing Jimmy's recent comments, I'm a tad bit more optimistic. Jimmy sees an opportunity to be mentioned with the likes of Lombardi and Landry if he comes back to Dallas and wins another title, especially in a different era with the salary cap.
Don't kid yourself.

He sees the chance to be the trivia answer to which Head Coach replaced Landry, Shula, and Parcells?

:D
 
wileedog;1284779 said:
2 Superbowls with no free agency or cap. Not to mention a boatload of draft picks.

Parcells also has 2 SBs, and built two other seperate contenders, something Jimmy failed to do. As mentioned Jimmy is now 6 years out of the game, twice as long as any hiatus Bill has ever taken.

This pining for Jimmy is amusing.

The six years out of the game has serious merit as well as Jimmy did have the Herschel deal to secure many extra picks.

I still do not see how FA and the cap have any bearing on the Jimmy era. Jimmy did not bring in a bunch of high priced vets; one reason being he could not as there was no such thing as Free Agency.
 
Johnson returning presupposes that (a) Jones will give him much the same control as Parcells, (b) a top-notch staff will materialize out of thin air, and (c) the salary cap will have little to no effect on Johnson's tendency to wheel and deal.

The Miami stint was ok, but resigning after a 62-7 defeat leaves memories. Not that taking the dream job is always the right thing to do either. Sometimes wanting is better than having.

I think Jimmy enjoys being on the media side of the mic now; why have all those morons second guess your decisions when you can speculate about what your former (coaching) colleagues should be doing from afar?

Like I said days ago, this would be more viable had Johnson never taken the Miami job. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely.
 
Alot of teams have had a ton of g#1 draft picks and didn't win 3 super bowls. I say 3 because the team was etched in stone when Switzer got here. The man knows how to draft, and he knows how to build defenses.

I do agree he got lucky on offense, but if you can build a power house defense, you are 1 step closer to a Super Bowl. I personally think that the whole Marino thing messed his entire situation up in Miami, he was afraid to pull the trigger on the Great one. Anyways, I doubt he comes back, but please stop saying that the guy had a ton of draft choices, because you still have to draft the right talent and make it work on the field , and not all of the contributers came from the 1st round.
 
I doubt Jimmy comes back. Just don't see it.

My biggest fear is Jerry going the same route in his thinking with kickers after Toby Gowin and Mike Vanderjagt.

He's spent 5mil a year on BP, and all that has got us decent starts every year and fading down the stretch.

I also don't see a guy out there that can come in and demand the kind of respect that BP did when he arrived.

That said.....I want a new coaching staff from top to bottom.

I'd also like to see Zimmer working at my local Walmart, passing out happy face stickers.
 

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