Jimmy Johnson was a 75 minute coach

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IMO this is what Jimmy Johnson excelled at, that is, preparing his teams to play beyond 60 minutes. I am not saying that the 90's Cowboys played in more OT games, but it seems like they always had more than enough in the tank to finish games because they were always prepared to play beyond 60. Even Parcells teams didn't seem as prepared to me.

To me this is one of Wade's biggest challenges aside from fielding a competitive team and a team with great depth, he needs to instill in his team that he expects and needs his team to be prepared every game to be able to play a full overtime period and win!

In his first season going 13-3 and averaging 28 PPG I'm not sure the team or the coaches for that matter really had a mentality to play beyond 60 minutes, perhaps success came too easy. Last years team seemed more like a 50 minute team at times.

I think with all of the young players Wade now has, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, its both an opportunity and a necessity that he instill a 75 minute philosophy.
 

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Huh? I have no idea what you mean by a "75 minute philosophy."

I'm sure there is a discipline issue somewhere in there. But I don't get what the heck a 75 minute philosophy means.

Beyond that, I really don't get why everyone is having such a hard time figuring out what happened last year. (1) we had locker room issues; (2) our starting QB got injured, and took awhile to fully recover; (3) we had other injuries to our two starting RBs; (4) Witten was hurt most of the year; (5) losing Kosier hurt; and (6) the coaching issue was not clear. That was the difference between what we ended up with (9-7 team) and what we could have been (12-4? 13-3?).

The way everyone is talking about last year, I would have thought we rolled in with a 4-12 record. I was as disappointed as anyone, but 9-7 is not a catastrophe.

This year there is no doubt that Wade is running the D and JG is handling the O. Hopefully we will have fewer important injuries. Hopefully the locker room is solid.

I really think the locker-room issue is bigger than most realize. I think by the last game the players were just mentally exhausted by the season-long drama, which is why once the game starting go bad, the guys just crumbled.
 

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you realize that jimmy was insane and completely burnt himself out doing stuff the way he did?
 

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Wayfaring Stranger;2826630 said:
Play hard as you can for 60 minutes and be prepared and conditioned for a full overtime period.

So your belief is that our guys were so exhausted at the 60th minute or 58th (or whatever your point is) that they would have passed out or started cramping up if they had to go to overtime? Huh?

How about just saying "better conditioning and better focus through discipline" instead of this 75 minute thing?
 

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No, I prefer Wade's way. 60 minutes, then shrug and walk away.

And the players have assumed that way of playing and shrugging their cares away.

One more year, baby. One more year of Wade and then we get a real coach.

Super Bowl Win 2011!
 

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Four;2826638 said:
you realize that jimmy was insane and completely burnt himself out doing stuff the way he did?


I'll take it!!! Especially if it comes w/2 rings and sets up an opportunity for a 3rd and 4th.



Wade's lived a full life anyway. :D
 

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there is more than one way to skin a cat

I have found 53 so far and I am learning another one every week it seems.

I am having trouble finding cats, to be honest.
 

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David Buehler will play the last 15 minutes by himself. Who needs the rest of em?
 

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Four;2826834 said:
there is more than one way to skin a cat

I have found 53 so far and I am learning another one every week it seems.

I am having trouble finding cats, to be honest.


Don't need more than one myself. Your way, you're just wasting cats. :D


Especially if it results in trophies. If it works, go with the tried and true, that's what I always say.
 

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cobra;2826641 said:
So your belief is that our guys were so exhausted at the 60th minute or 58th (or whatever your point is) that they would have passed out or started cramping up if they had to go to overtime? Huh?

Not what I said.


cobra;2826641 said:
How about just saying "better conditioning and better focus through discipline" instead of this 75 minute thing?

You don't get the point so you probably wouldn't find comfort no matter how I said it.
 

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Four;2826638 said:
you realize that jimmy was insane and completely burnt himself out doing stuff the way he did?


No he wasn't - look at his record before the NFL - it's not like he just showed up in Valley Ranch off the street. He was not BURNED OUT!

He left due to Jones and him not getting along.


CORAL GABLES, Fla.-- Since 1981 the University of Miami has won five National Championships, gone to ten National Championship games, been to 23 bowl games with a 15-8 record in those games including playing in 16 major bowl games (Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, Sugar, Rose). Leading those teams have been some of the best and most successful coaches in the history of college football.

While it is not easy to rank coaches because, obviously live everything else, it’s completely subjective and everyone has an opinion, here is our opinion of who the top five coaches in the history of the University of Miami are.

Each day we will countdown from five to one and we will also breakdown what we felt were their strengths and weaknesses as coaches.

By now you know who number one is. If you don’t, you are not really a true Miami Hurricanes fan. Believe me when I say, I debated on this one. I really went back and forth.

The man who brought the first title or the man that brought the true University of Miami swagger, confidence, aura, and the true meaning of what the “U” is. Dominating.

He had the hair that never moved, but the passion that moved massive young men to do things they probably never envisioned.

Our No. 1 coach in the history of the University of Miami is none other than:

Jimmy Johnson (UM Record 52-9)

When Jimmy Johnson took over as head coach of Miami, the ‘Canes were coming off of a National Championship season, so it should have been perfect timing for him.

But there was inner turmoil with him being named head coach so what was expected to be quite a promising season ended with the ‘Canes going 8-5. Although the ‘Canes opened the season ranked 10th and beat top-ranked Auburn and 17th ranked Florida in back-to-back weeks, by the time the ‘Canes traveled to 14th ranked Michigan, they were gassed and lost. They played 4 games in 19 days which is insane in football, but to go 3-1 was pretty impressive in that stretch with three of the teams being ranked.

A whipping at the hands of Florida State followed, but the ‘Canes won their next five before suffering the most embarrassing loss in the history of the program when it blew a 31-0 lead against Maryland and lost 42-40. A week later, Doug Flutie had his prayers answered in a 47-45 Boston College win over Miami.

A year later the ‘Canes were playing for the National Championship against Tennessee, but they laid the proverbial egg getting smacked by the eighth-tanked Vols.

Over the next three years, the ‘Canes would go a ridiculous 34-2 with the losses coming by a combined five points.

The swagger was born.

After an 11-0 season in 1986, the ‘Canes braggadocio caught up with them in the Fiesta Bowl when they were a huge favorite over Penn State only to watch Heisman Trophy winner Vinny Testaverde throw five interceptions as the ‘Canes lost 14-10. The worst part of that season is that there are people that still believe that was the best team Miami’s ever had which makes the fact they lost that game even more depressing. They didn’t play a close game until losing in the Fiesta Bowl, so I might be inclined to agree until watching that 2001 team in action.

But even the 2001 team had a couple of close calls.

Another 11-0 regular season was finally culminated with a win over Oklahoma to give Miami its first 12-0 season and second National Championship. That year, the ‘Canes beat five teams ranked tenth or better, and as their season motto was, they “Pressed On”.

The ‘Canes appeared to be heading to another National Championship until a speed bump at Notre Dame ended their 17-game winning streak. A batted away two-point conversion was the difference as Miami lost 31-30 in South Bend in one of the best games in college football history.

The ‘Canes pushed their way back up to No. 2 in the country and beat Nebraska in the Orange Bowl, but it wouldn’t be enough as they finished the season ranked No. 2 behind Notre Dame.

But beyond that Jimmy’s mark would be felt for quite a long time. The year after he left, Dennis Erickson won a National Championship with Jimmy’s recruits. In 1991, still rolling with Jimmy’s recruits leading the way as seniors, he won another National Championship.

Under Johnson, the swagger was born, the confidence was born, the attitude was born and the “U” was officially born.

Strengths – Recruiting, Passion, Motivation.

Weaknesses – Arrogance.


Bowl Games

1989 Orange Bowl – Miami 23, Nebraska 3
1988 National Championship Game – Orange Bowl – Miami 20, Oklahoma 14 (National Champions)
1987 National Championship Game – Fiesta Bowl – Penn State 14, Miami 10
1986 National Championship Game – Sugar Bowl – Tennessee 35, Miami 7
1985 Fiesta Bowl – UCLA 39, Miami 37
 

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I am not going to post a 500 word essay as a response, jimmy johnson burned out.

he has said as much in recent interviews.
 

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I think this guy has a point

we need to be better conditioned than we were last year

I think Wade allowed them to slough off
 

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Bob Sacamano;2826912 said:
I think this guy has a point

we need to be better conditioned than we were last year

I think Wade allowed them to slough off

exactly this team needs hard work in training camp, no more camp cupcake

i think wade has seen that, you cant treat players or least some cowboys players like professionals, because they have to be conditioned to be ready to hit; take a gander at this below



http://www.cowboysftw.com/index.php/2008/12/31/can-coach-cupcake-get-tough/

HomeRSSContact Can Coach Cupcake Get Tough?
December 31, 2008 Posted by: Dan Horn

Head Coach Wade Phillips
Wade Phillips won’t lose his job as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, or at least that is the tune that Jerry Jones is currently singing. Jones has professed his faith in his current coaching staff and has indicated that none of them will get the axe, or at least not from him. However, the breakdown in the Cowboys organization during the 2008 season can not go uncorrected. Wade Phillips plans to shake things up, starting with himself.

Phillips thinks that he needs to change his notoriously soft coaching style and get tougher on his players during the offseason and during practices. Phillips is famous for padless practices, half-days and even for cancelling practices. He has done this in order to avoid wearing out the players too early in the season and to avoid possible injuries during practice. This strategy resulted in a group of players that were not properly conditioned and were more easily injured during games.


Phillips has always kind of avoided stirring the pot, trusting his players to do what was necessary to help the team win, and that is a decent management style. After all, these are grown men who shouldn’t have to be told what to do and micromanaging such men can quickly turn them against him. However he must also be able to identify those that are not pulling their weight and those that are interfering with the ability of others to do their jobs. He must then step in and immediately put a stop to the detrimental behavior. This is what he hasn’t done in the past, preferring to let the men work it out amongst themselves. This is also where team leaders need to be in place and make players accountable to pull their weight too;

There are 3 big questions with Phillips’ new approach to coaching. Can Wade Phillips actually be the hardass coach that Bill Parcells was? Will the team accept the sudden change in their head coach and actually take him seriously? And finally, will it work? After all, let us not forget that the last two years of Bill Parcells’ tenure resulted in the same 9 - 7 record that the Cowboys ended up with in 2008.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;2826772 said:
No, I prefer Wade's way. 60 minutes, then shrug and walk away.

And the players have assumed that way of playing and shrugging their cares away.

One more year, baby. One more year of Wade and then we get a real coach.

Super Bowl Win 2011!

LOL, these are my thoughts as well.
 

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Four;2826834 said:
there is more than one way to skin a cat

I have found 53 so far and I am learning another one every week it seems.

I am having trouble finding cats, to be honest.

This is straight out of Jeffery Dahmers' diary.................. :eekmouse:
 

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Wayfaring Stranger;2826590 said:
IMO this is what Jimmy Johnson excelled at, that is, preparing his teams to play beyond 60 minutes. I am not saying that the 90's Cowboys played in more OT games, but it seems like they always had more than enough in the tank to finish games because they were always prepared to play beyond 60. Even Parcells teams didn't seem as prepared to me.

To me this is one of Wade's biggest challenges aside from fielding a competitive team and a team with great depth, he needs to instill in his team that he expects and needs his team to be prepared every game to be able to play a full overtime period and win!

In his first season going 13-3 and averaging 28 PPG I'm not sure the team or the coaches for that matter really had a mentality to play beyond 60 minutes, perhaps success came too easy. Last years team seemed more like a 50 minute team at times.

I think with all of the young players Wade now has, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, its both an opportunity and a necessity that he instill a 75 minute philosophy.

Try just the opposite....JJ put every minute of the week into preparing his team...players & coaches...for game time. Then during that "75 minutes" he let them do their thing, played prepared football. Then JJ just had to "manage" the situations during the game from that point.
 
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