Jimmy Johnson was on dfw sports beat, had some intersting things to say

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Basically, get mentally tough, and your in the best position you can be now he told Jerry Jones and Wade at the practice this week for an hour and a half, your in 1st place in the NFC East, keep that up, keep getting better, and improve while getting hot. Win that division and get in the playoffs then anything can happen as you keep improving.

Jimmy went on to say that there is one thing the cowboys can do to help the team. Look at the young players like Ogletree or Bennett, showed choice on film, what one or 2 plays do these players do well and have those plays for them in the game.

Jimmy said Bennett was a real prime example to find the best routes that M Bennett runs and do that, while at same time, what best routes does roy williams run, do that, then in offseason get roy to work on those routes he isnt good at very well but dont work on plays that roy isnt good at right now.
 

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I agree with Jimmy about having them run the 1 or 2 routes they're good at.
 

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Cover 2;3106016 said:
I agree with Jimmy about having them run the 1 or 2 routes they're good at.

Me too, its like what 49ers head coach bill walsh did, he drafted players and put in plays that went to the strength of the players, not have the players try to do something they werent good at.

Its like trying to put a square peg in a hole, you dont do that, you as a coach have to see the strenghts of your players, find out what they do well and you use those strenghts of the players, not their weaknesses.

In offseason conditioning, you can try to work on plays or routes that players arent good at and see if they improve with hard practice, but you dont do that during the year.
 

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Cover 2;3106016 said:
I agree with Jimmy about having them run the 1 or 2 routes they're good at.

That was Vince Lombardi's entire offensive scheme, find a few plays that your players can run perfectly and run them. Jimmy had that same philosophy. Look at how many times we ran the lead draw or the "skinny post" back then but it worked.

Not that necessarily like a simple offense but running plays that your players are good at just makes sense to me.
 

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THUMPER;3106143 said:
That was Vince Lombardi's entire offensive scheme, find a few plays that your players can run perfectly and run them. Jimmy had that same philosophy. Look at how many times we ran the lead draw or the "skinny post" back then but it worked.

Not that necessarily like a simple offense but running plays that your players are good at just makes sense to me.

Totally agree!
 

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While that may be the most pragmatic thing to do, it isn't necessarily always the best. It's a big boy league. They have to learn to do some things they might not like a lot.
 

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jobberone;3106297 said:
While that may be the most pragmatic thing to do, it isn't necessarily always the best. It's a big boy league. They have to learn to do some things they might not like a lot.

Disagree with that, you find out what the players are good at, thats why you drafted them or signed them as free agents or traded for them. Again, you dont try to put a square peg into a round hole. Or take players and plug them into something they arent capable of doing.

then you build the team around those players and their strenghts. granted some plays you incorporate that you think the players can do, but you dont have them play skill level that they are incapable of playing.
 

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jobberone;3106297 said:
While that may be the most pragmatic thing to do, it isn't necessarily always the best. It's a big boy league. They have to learn to do some things they might not like a lot.
Think I'll take Jimmy's advice over yours coach.
 

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l2obert;3106384 said:
Think I'll take Jimmy's advice over yours coach.

Me too, when it concerns cowboys football, i would take jimmy johnson's word even over jerry jones or wade.
 

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Cover 2;3106016 said:
I agree with Jimmy about having them run the 1 or 2 routes they're good at.

Not so easy. That's fine unless the opposing team also knows the 1 or 2 plays that player is good at. If all RW can do well is run the post and slant, the opposing teams will key on that and jump the route or take it away.
 

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I'm a big believer in the idea that you don't need to have alot of plays in the playbook, you just need to execute the ones you do have perfectly. If you can do that consistently its hard to stop. Jimmy is right...practice the ones you're good/comfortable with and perfect them as much as possible.
 

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Guess what--if a receiver can only run two or three routes well....do you think a defense isn't going to figure that out?

We tried to throw a slant to Roy on Thursday and Oakland blew it up, with two guys in a position for an INT on the deflection. We were lucky they ran into each other.

I liked Jimmy but he sounds like an old fool with this simpleton formula.
 

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Jason Garrett at this point in his career can run circles around Jimmy Johnson at this point in his career.
 

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let's suppose the other team is aware of the 2 plays each of our 3 guys does well...the way you get around that is to have Ogletree, Bennet and Choice in at the same time, the opponent will not have time to figure out which of the 6 different plays is about to unfold and which player to defend.... and your chance of success just increased!!!
 

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ninja;3106535 said:
Not so easy. That's fine unless the opposing team also knows the 1 or 2 plays that player is good at. If all RW can do well is run the post and slant, the opposing teams will key on that and jump the route or take it away.

In the early 90s, every defense in the NFL knew the run plays we were going to use. Guess what? None of them could stop it.
 

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T-RO;3106661 said:
Guess what--if a receiver can only run two or three routes well....do you think a defense isn't going to figure that out?

We tried to throw a slant to Roy on Thursday and Oakland blew it up, with two guys in a position for an INT on the deflection. We were lucky they ran into each other.

I liked Jimmy but he sounds like an old fool with this simpleton formula.

How many routes does Randy Moss run?

Michael Irvin ran 3-4.
 

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kind of easy to see who is clueless about football in this thread.....
 

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Star4Ever;3106755 said:
In the early 90s, every defense in the NFL knew the run plays we were going to use. Guess what? None of them could stop it.

yep, thats called execution, making your players accountable and running the plays over and over till you have them down pat, then daring teams to stop you like vince lombardi did with the packers with the famous sweeps etc.
 
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