Jimmy on Cowboys problem

Jerry will never do it.

The person that reminds me most of Jimmy right now in today's coaching world is Urban Meyer - can he be a jerk? Sure. But all he wants to do is win at all costs.
 
Then there was this final thought from Johnson on the Cowboys:

"I watch that team, and there's sure a lot of struttin' going on. What's that about? This team has won how many playoff games in how many years? And they strut around out there like they've got Super Bowl rings. For me, there's way too much struttin' going on and not enough winning going on."
 
jimmy40;3580369 said:
Then there was this final thought from Johnson on the Cowboys:

"I watch that team, and there's sure a lot of struttin' going on. What's that about? This team has won how many playoff games in how many years? And they strut around out there like they've got Super Bowl rings. For me, there's way too much struttin' going on and not enough winning going on."

I agree but that's league wide. Every time some one makes a tackle or catch they jump up and act like they have won the SB.
 
Yeagermeister;3580398 said:
I agree but that's league wide. Every time some one makes a tackle or catch they jump up and act like they have won the SB.

And don't remind dearest Jimmy that he did some strutting of his own after he was forced out of town having his hand caught in TOO many cookie jars.
 
casmith07;3580365 said:
Jerry will never do it.

The person that reminds me most of Jimmy right now in today's coaching world is Urban Meyer - can he be a jerk? Sure. But all he wants to do is win at all costs.
I would love to see him as the next coach, except he has that heart issue and coaches I've heard have always said nfl coach is far more demanding than college, even at a place like Floriday.

Depressingly, I don't think anyone will have sustained success as long as Jerry Jones insists on running the football operations.
 
jimmy40;3580369 said:
Then there was this final thought from Johnson on the Cowboys:

"I watch that team, and there's sure a lot of struttin' going on. What's that about? This team has won how many playoff games in how many years? And they strut around out there like they've got Super Bowl rings. For me, there's way too much struttin' going on and not enough winning going on."

Igor strutted after stopping the Bears on 3rd down when they were just trying to run the clock out. That irritated me to no end.
 
jimmy40;3580369 said:
Then there was this final thought from Johnson on the Cowboys:

"I watch that team, and there's sure a lot of struttin' going on. What's that about? This team has won how many playoff games in how many years? And they strut around out there like they've got Super Bowl rings. For me, there's way too much struttin' going on and not enough winning going on."

Jimmy was a master psychologist when it came to his players. He knew how to push their buttons and got the very best out of them. Didn't matter if you were battling for a roster spot or Troy Aikman, he knew how to keep the pressure on.

Thats the biggest disconnect with this coaching staff. They don't know how to get the very best out of these guys. They are great with Xs and Os and both of them run statistically stellar units. But the penalties and mental lapses are becoming preconceived notions, that before every game we're going to give major chunks of yards away by being stupid - and thats just unacceptable if you want to win.

Don't get me wrong Jimmy got lucky considering he had 5-6 hall of fame worthy players to coach, but I feel like this team has just as many guys that are equally as talented - they just aren't getting the very best out of them.

And that comes from knowing how to motivate players. I don't know if either one of our guys know how to do just that.
 
jimmy40;3580369 said:
Then there was this final thought from Johnson on the Cowboys:

"I watch that team, and there's sure a lot of struttin' going on. What's that about? This team has won how many playoff games in how many years? And they strut around out there like they've got Super Bowl rings. For me, there's way too much struttin' going on and not enough winning going on."

It ticks me off every time Roy gets a first down and makes a big show of posing while pointing downfield, as if it is a huge, dramatic play for the offense. Getting a first down is nice, but as many coaches have a habit of saying, they need to act as if they've done this before instead of like it's a new high point for them. We can't take that damn much satisfaction from a mere first down. That's just a building block, not the goal.
 
Stautner;3580412 said:
It ticks me off every time Roy gets a first down and makes a big show of posing while pointing downfield, as if it is a huge, dramatic play for the offense. Getting a first down is nice, but as many coaches have a habit of saying, they need to act as if they've done this before instead of like it's a new high point for them. We can't take that damn much satisfaction from a mere first down. That's just a building block, not the goal.
The one that got me was Olshansky celebrating a tackle, late in the game with his team losing.

What was that?

I see only 2 possibilities: he's so self-absorbed that he could care less about what's going on with his team, because hey, he made a play, or, he was simply too stupid to understand that his team was in dire straits and hanging by a thread.
 
All who think that a return of JJ would instantly translate into playoff wins and added SB's should remember that JJ wouldn't have Herschel Walker to trade,or an idiot Mike Lynn to trade to now. Would I like to see him back? Sure,who wouldn't (Maybe Wade?). But JJ was in the right place,at the right time,with the right mix of players,thanks in no large part to the trade of Herschel Walker.
 
Double Trouble;3580428 said:
The one that got me was Olshansky celebrating a tackle, late in the game with his team losing.

What was that?

I see only 2 possibilities: he's so self-absorbed that he could care less about what's going on with his team, because hey, he made a play, or, he was simply too stupid to understand that his team was in dire straits and hanging by a thread.

At least it's not a constant thing with Olshansky. Roy does it every time he gets a first down, even with a routine 6 yard reception in the 1st quarter. I understand the excitement, and the team needs to be excited, but the theatrics and overexaggerating the significance of an individual play is something else.
 
ologan;3580438 said:
All who think that a return of JJ would instantly translate into playoff wins and added SB's should remember that JJ wouldn't have Herschel Walker to trade,or an idiot Mike Lynn to trade to now. Would I like to see him back? Sure,who wouldn't (Maybe Wade?). But JJ was in the right place,at the right time,with the right mix of players,thanks in no large part to the trade of Herschel Walker.

:hammer:

He also didn't have a salary cap. He could cut any player at any time.
 
The thing is Jerry doesnt need a consultant, he knows where he is going wrong but he is having fun doing things his way and making a ton of money so he flat doesnt care what anyone else thinks or wants him to do.
 
ologan;3580438 said:
All who think that a return of JJ would instantly translate into playoff wins and added SB's should remember that JJ wouldn't have Herschel Walker to trade,or an idiot Mike Lynn to trade to now. Would I like to see him back? Sure,who wouldn't (Maybe Wade?). But JJ was in the right place,at the right time,with the right mix of players,thanks in no large part to the trade of Herschel Walker.

To be honest, he wouldn't really need those trades because the current Cowboys are, no question in my mind, the most talented team in the NFL. Now, the point that Yeags makes is valid. Jimmy didn't have to deal with a cap and all that goes along with that either but who knows what the feature of the NFL holds in this regard? I don't.
 
ABQCOWBOY;3580475 said:
To be honest, he wouldn't really need those trades because the current Cowboys are, no question in my mind, the most talented team in the NFL. Now, the point that Yeags makes is valid. Jimmy didn't have to deal with a cap and all that goes along with that either but who knows what the feature of the NFL holds in this regard? I don't.

I think it's a beit of a stretch to say they are without question the most talented team in the NFL, but I think it's fair to say they are a very talented team. The thing about Jimmy though is that I think he was at his best molding his own teams, and particularly young players who he has the chance to take from the start and mold. He may not find as much success with a veteran team that may not accept that same kind of college coaching mentality that works so well in certain situations.
 
casmith07;3580365 said:
Jerry will never do it.

The person that reminds me most of Jimmy right now in today's coaching world is Urban Meyer - can he be a jerk? Sure. But all he wants to do is win at all costs.

Your kidding, right? That guy is a basket case. Saban almost drove him into retirement and/or the nut house last year. Did you read the reports of his wife calling 911 and him on the floor curled up like a baby and his wife almost disgustingly saying "Urban? Urban?"
 
Double Trouble;3580428 said:
The one that got me was Olshansky celebrating a tackle, late in the game with his team losing.

What was that?

I see only 2 possibilities: he's so self-absorbed that he could care less about what's going on with his team, because hey, he made a play, or, he was simply too stupid to understand that his team was in dire straits and hanging by a thread.

Who cares? This has nothing to do with the losses. Have you played the game or coached it? Its a battle out there and emotions run high for most players. My concern is with the sloppy play of this team. I'm not worried about a guy getting pumped for winning a battle.
 

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