Joe’s Next to last Final Mock Draft

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Ok, I used my next to final mock on draft insiders mock and notes.

Joe’s Next to last Final Mock Draft
2nd Patrick Chung S (cowboys trade down 4 spots pick up 5th)
3rd Lawrence Sidbury DE/LB or Jason Williams LB
3rd James Casey TE/FB (Cowboys trade Greg Ellis & 5th above to get Casey)
4th Lardarius Webb CB PR(Cowboys trade top 4th get a 4th lower & future 3rd with 6th )
4th Johnny Knox WR
5th Sebastian Vollmer OT
5th Sammie Hll NT
5th Captain Munnerlyn CB headhunter on special teams or Brian McCain
6th Louis Vaasquez OG
6th Stephen McGee QB
6th Frantz Joseph (Cowboys trade this pick down, get a future 5th ) LB
7th Everette Pedescleaux DE
7th Roger Allen OG or Jamie Thomas OG/C
 

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cowboyjoe;2743380 said:
Ok, I used my next to final mock on draft insiders mock and notes.

Joe’s Next to last Final Mock Draft
2nd Patrick Chung S (cowboys trade down 4 spots pick up 5th)
3rd Lawrence Sidbury DE/LB or Jason Williams LB
3rd James Casey TE/FB (Cowboys trade Greg Ellis & 5th above to get Casey)
4th Lardarius Webb CB PR(Cowboys trade top 4th get a 4th lower & future 3rd with 6th )
4th Johnny Knox WR
5th Sebastian Vollmer OT
5th Sammie Hll NT
5th Captain Munnerlyn CB headhunter on special teams or Brian McCain
6th Louis Vaasquez OG
6th Stephen McGee QB
6th Frantz Joseph (Cowboys trade this pick down, get a future 5th ) LB
7th Everette Pedescleaux DE
7th Roger Allen OG or Jamie Thomas OG/C


Dang!! That's a lot of picks. You may want to flip Allen w/Joseph b/c he's starting to steam up the boards. No backup center but 3 OL. Jason Williams could probably play OLB in a pinch (bit small), I would definitely take it.
 

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I like that draft quite a bit . I don't think however that McGee makes it past the 4th round .
 

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Canadian BoyzFan;2743877 said:
Sidbury will be long gone.

i think you could flip flop a few players, but if we can get 3/4 of the players i have picked i would be all for it,

and what i heard jerry jones in his press conference yesterday, he is planning to trading down the 2nd or 3rd pick, possibly acquiring a future pick next year in one of those picks too

also, if you noticed, jerry said the 4th pick was a war daddy, since its the first pick in the 4th round, i expect that pick to get some calls for trading up for it, the first pick of each round always gets some calls to trade up picks for it,

so really watch the 3rd pick this year, which is the 5th pick overall in 3rd rd
and watch for trading with the 4th pick from detriot,

and if you noticed pretty well, stephen seemed to incline that he anticipated to keeping all 11 picks,
 

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Canadian BoyzFan;2743877 said:
Sidbury will be long gone.

canadian, yeah i hear if the jets dont take sidbury with their 2nd pick, that they will take him with their 3rd, if they have a 3rd, jets really like sidbury
 

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cowboyjoe;2743925 said:
canadian, yeah i hear if the jets dont take sidbury with their 2nd pick, that they will take him with their 3rd, if they have a 3rd, jets really like sidbury

Then we should stay away from him. Jets SUCK at picking pass rushers. :p:



Seriously, have they hit on any since Parcells left?
 

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BAT;2743939 said:
Then we should stay away from him. Jets SUCK at picking pass rushers. :p:



Seriously, have they hit on any since Parcells left?

yeah i understand what your saying Bat, jets have been bad at picking pass rushers; but who is their head coach now Bat, ravens former defensive coordinator right and i do believe he knows some things about defenses;

what do you think now?
 

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cowboyjoe;2743949 said:
yeah i understand what your saying Bat, jets have been bad at picking pass rushers; but who is their head coach now Bat, ravens former defensive coordinator right and i do believe he knows some things about defenses;

what do you think now?


The Ravens haven't hit on a pass rusher since Terrell Suggs. That is a while back too. Ryan can coach, but not sure about his talent acquisition, yet. We'll see. And the GM is still the same guy if I recall, only Mangini was let go.
 

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Canadian BoyzFan;2743877 said:
Sidbury will be long gone.


Maybe so. But that's why I think the Cowboys have looked at several outside linebacker candidates, so they have a backup plan in case he is gone.

Veikune would most likely be there and I think he'd be a nice fall-back option.
 

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BAT;2744008 said:
The Ravens haven't hit on a pass rusher since Terrell Suggs. That is a while back too. Ryan can coach, but not sure about his talent acquisition, yet. We'll see. And the GM is still the same guy if I recall, only Mangini was let go.

good thought about that bat, i didnt think about that, yeah will just have to wait and see;
 

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cowboyjoe;2743380 said:
Ok, I used my next to final mock on draft insiders mock and notes.

Joe’s Next to last Final Mock Draft
2nd Patrick Chung S (cowboys trade down 4 spots pick up 5th)
3rd Lawrence Sidbury DE/LB or Jason Williams LB
3rd James Casey TE/FB (Cowboys trade Greg Ellis & 5th above to get Casey)
4th Lardarius Webb CB PR(Cowboys trade top 4th get a 4th lower & future 3rd with 6th )
4th Johnny Knox WR
5th Sebastian Vollmer OT
5th Sammie Hll NT
5th Captain Munnerlyn CB headhunter on special teams or Brian McCain
6th Louis Vaasquez OG
6th Stephen McGee QB
6th Frantz Joseph (Cowboys trade this pick down, get a future 5th ) LB
7th Everette Pedescleaux DE
7th Roger Allen OG or Jamie Thomas OG/C

Now we are drafting 13 players? lol.

The most we draft is 8 players.

I think we trade up to get the G or WR we want in the 2nd round. Then we trade up again into the 2nd to get the Safety we want.

You have to stop taking everything everyone says so literally Joe.
 

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dcfanatic;2744132 said:
Now we are drafting 13 players? lol.

The most we draft is 8 players.

I think we trade up to get the G or WR we want in the 2nd round. Then we trade up again into the 2nd to get the Safety we want.

You have to stop taking everything everyone says so literally Joe.

hey DC buddy,
i think honestly we will have about 9 picks in this draft, we will trade at least 2-3 out of the 11 we have, but just in case what stephen jones said about using all of the draft picks, then i went with that;

im thinking what stephen was saying that this year the cowboys plan to have some extra picks in the 5th to 7th rounds, so they can draft a few players that would have been free agents,

that way they wouldnt have to contend with the other 31 teams in signing bonuses etc;

just a hunch;
again what i think the cowboys will do it trade either the 3rd or 4th rounder and recoup a 3rd or 4th rounder in the 2010 draft. Possibly both picks since both are high picks at the top of the rounds, the 3rd from cleveland and the 4th from detroit. Like Jerry Jones said, the 4th pick is a war daddy.

I also think the cowboys will trade or package greg ellis, or crayton or mcquistan or carpenter to get a better draft pick they like;
 

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I don't think they draft Chung. I think they prefer the kid from Tech-- he's more what they actually need-- a safety who can cover.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2744161 said:
I don't think they draft Chung. I think they prefer the kid from Tech-- he's more what they actually need-- a safety who can cover.

yeah but the kid from tech isnt that fast, 4.56 in 40, thats slow, and if he has to cover a slot wr, the slot wr will tear him up to me

its kinda like brian stewart, whom i didnt particullary care for as our defensive coordinator, but he said which makes alittle sense, you cant judge the tech kid too much because plenty of times, texas tech had teams on their heels throwing to catch up, so the safety was playing center field and like fielding punts for inteceptions;

id rather have a safety that has some speed, that has shown in crunch time, he can cover deep one on one and make the big interception;
 

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cowboyjoe;2743380 said:
Ok, I used my next to final mock on draft insiders mock and notes.

Joe’s Next to last Final Mock Draft
2nd Patrick Chung S (cowboys trade down 4 spots pick up 5th)
3rd Lawrence Sidbury DE/LB or Jason Williams LB
3rd James Casey TE/FB (Cowboys trade Greg Ellis & 5th above to get Casey)
4th Lardarius Webb CB PR(Cowboys trade top 4th get a 4th lower & future 3rd with 6th )
4th Johnny Knox WR
5th Sebastian Vollmer OT
5th Sammie Hll NT
5th Captain Munnerlyn CB headhunter on special teams or Brian McCain
6th Louis Vaasquez OG
6th Stephen McGee QB
6th Frantz Joseph (Cowboys trade this pick down, get a future 5th ) LB
7th Everette Pedescleaux DE
7th Roger Allen OG or Jamie Thomas OG/C

13 picks, joe?? Sorry, that's a silly effort... you can do better than that...

I hope your last final mock draft is better than this one is, pal...
 

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silverbear;2744240 said:
13 picks, joe?? Sorry, that's a silly effort... you can do better than that...

I hope your last final mock draft is better than this one is, pal...

lol bear, i was going off of what stephen jones said buddy, i just get the ideal that the cowboys want to load up at the back end of the draft, and get players that will be undrafted,

that way, the cowboys wont have to compete with 31 other teams and get the players they want.

but my final mock will have 8-9 players, thats where i think the cowboys will be, at 8-9 draft picks to draft players in lower rounds and are special teams players;
 

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cowboyjoe;2744209 said:
yeah but the kid from tech isnt that fast, 4.56 in 40, thats slow, and if he has to cover a slot wr, the slot wr will tear him up to me

its kinda like brian stewart, whom i didnt particullary care for as our defensive coordinator, but he said which makes alittle sense, you cant judge the tech kid too much because plenty of times, texas tech had teams on their heels throwing to catch up, so the safety was playing center field and like fielding punts for inteceptions;

id rather have a safety that has some speed, that has shown in crunch time, he can cover deep one on one and make the big interception;


This kid also played corner. And his left & right "turn & run" was faster than Chung's.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2744306 said:
This kid also played corner. And his left & right "turn & run" was faster than Chung's.

understand that, but we saw how roy williams safety whom was slow at 4.53 in 40 we saw how he continually got burned deep

id rather have a safety with 4.48 speed or better in 40 like polymalu or ed reed or safety from colts;

its like belicheat coach of the patriots said; in todays schemes with the 3-5 wrs sets, the in box safety is outdated, the big hybrid safety;

you need a safety with speed now that can cover the slot wrs, etc, or you will get burned;
 

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cowboyjoe;2744267 said:
lol bear, i was going off of what stephen jones said buddy,

I see-- Stephen said the Boys might use all 11 picks, so you went out and gave 'em two more... :D

that way, the cowboys wont have to compete with 31 other teams and get the players they want.

Seems to me the Cowboys have gotten most of the players they wanted after the draft these last few years...

but my final mock will have 8-9 players, thats where i think the cowboys will be, at 8-9 draft picks to draft players in lower rounds and are special teams players;

Then I eagerly await your Last Final Mock Draft... will it be done by Monday??

:D :D :D
 
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