John Michael Smitz Has HOF Potential

[Risen Star]

Build the trenches. I like it.

Bro, it must be frustrating liking our draft this year but not knowing who the players are yet.

 

[ESisback]

If I were picking…

I’m not scientific, I don’t spend hours on research, watching tape and counting up “value points” just to fit a system. I’m just a normal, laid back fan with my own opinions, molded simply by what I’ve seen, heard or read. But if they let me pick, I’d take that “generational” IOL Schmitz, followed by either Avila or the best available run stopping DT. Then I’d go RB, OT, WR, QB, TE.

It all begins in the trenches.

 

[J-man]

JMS is probably the best C in this class, a perennial pro bowler and probable all pro. IMO, he's a lot like the beard, smaller, not extremely athletic, strong and very technical. Many scoffed at the Fredrick pick, until he became multi year starting all pro.
I'm not sure they will do it, but if we take him I think he plays LG for a year, moves to C next year and they let Biadasz walk.

Major draw back is them still needing a LG next year. So depending on how the board shakes out I think they would rather go straight for the LG like Availa or Zavala.
Vorhees, Tippmann and Wypler are others to watch in rds 2-4 range. Another option to never rule out would be them taking a OT if they get the chance at a good one like Wright. They can always move Tyler back to LG.

 

[gimmesix]

100%

Dude is a technician. I wouldn’t blink twice replacing Biadasz whom I think is a mid-level talent.

I really don't understand the mind-set of wanting to replace players. I understand wanting to upgrade, but I've read so many threads here that mentioning drafting this player or that player so we don't have to re-sign this player or that player. I guess that's fine if you have no needs beyond just replacing players, but it's hard to build a team if you just put all your time and energy into drafting replacements for your starters.

Biadasz should not be too expensive to re-sign next year so I'm more interested in signing the best player who can be the LG starter for us, not the best one who can shift to center next year and force us to have to spend another early pick to find the best LG starter. If Schmitz is that guy, that's fine, but position flex is far less important to me than finding the best guard for this year.

 

[Rockport]

Bro, it must be frustrating liking our draft this year but not knowing who the players are yet.

Well based on recent history, we all should. But you haters live to hate.

 

[Pass2Run]

JMS is probably the best C in this class, a perennial pro bowler and probable all pro. IMO, he's a lot like the beard, smaller, not extremely athletic, strong and very technical. Many scoffed at the Fredrick pick, until he became multi year starting all pro.
I'm not sure they will do it, but if we take him I think he plays LG for a year, moves to C next year and they let Biadasz walk.

Major draw back is them still needing a LG next year. So depending on how the board shakes out I think they would rather go straight for the LG like Availa or Zavala.
Vorhees, Tippmann and Wypler are others to watch in rds 2-4 range. Another option to never rule out would be them taking a OT if they get the chance at a good one like Wright. They can always move Tyler back to LG.

They wouldn't need a LG if they tag Biadasz or resign him.

We think we know what we have with Biadasz, but it wouldn't hurt to upgrade and add depth to the interior with a guy who can play multiple spots.

Their strategy of drafting 1st round OL has at least helped them be competitive.

 

[J-man]

They wouldn't need a LG if they tag Biadasz or resign him.

We think we know what we have with Biadasz, but it wouldn't hurt to upgrade and add depth to the interior with a guy who can play multiple spots.

Their strategy of drafting 1st round OL has at least helped them be competitive.

I'm all for drafting top ranked O-lineman and completing the rebuild. And I'm not out on Biadasz, he has gotten better every year. But make no mistake, if they take JMS they are doing it to upgrade the C position over Biadasz. He's just a better player at the position.
Like I said, I think they let him play LG this season, but they aren't going to keep him there long. The minute Tyler's contract is up after the season he'd be allowed to walk and John is the new starting C, leaving a hole at LG that I'm pretty sure Biadasz can't fill.

 

[Dools29]

JMS is probably the best C in this class, a perennial pro bowler and probable all pro. IMO, he's a lot like the beard, smaller, not extremely athletic, strong and very technical. Many scoffed at the Fredrick pick, until he became multi year starting all pro.
I'm not sure they will do it, but if we take him I think he plays LG for a year, moves to C next year and they let Biadasz walk.

Major draw back is them still needing a LG next year. So depending on how the board shakes out I think they would rather go straight for the LG like Availa or Zavala.
Vorhees, Tippmann and Wypler are others to watch in rds 2-4 range. Another option to never rule out would be them taking a OT if they get the chance at a good one like Wright. They can always move Tyler back

I would love Dawand Jones assuming his character checks out. To give up no QB hits given his qb and the talent he faced last year, while also being a mailer in the run game, I’m surprised he’s rated so low on most boards. I’d be totally pumped about JMS as well.

 

[LatinMind]

Everyone talks about Mayer being such a solid pick, and I agree, he's a pretty solid pick. But I think the player with even less risk is John Michael Smitz. He would upgrade the position and you'd have a moster of a center and you start off your draft with a bang. Could easily be the best player on the board at 26, so why not just take BPA even though we have Biadz,.

Smitz definitely has position flex, and could totally play guard. And I think he's an OL that could play any position on the line really. He's one of the most technically sound players I've seen as far as offensive line goes. I think quite a bit ahead of Avila, for me at least.

You have the Eagles interior to deal with and San Fran, etcetera, a center who can also play guard makes sense.

Atleast let him play a game first.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I really don't understand the mind-set of wanting to replace players. I understand wanting to upgrade, but I've read so many threads here that mentioning drafting this player or that player so we don't have to re-sign this player or that player. I guess that's fine if you have no needs beyond just replacing players, but it's hard to build a team if you just put all your time and energy into drafting replacements for your starters.

Biadasz should not be too expensive to re-sign next year so I'm more interested in signing the best player who can be the LG starter for us, not the best one who can shift to center next year and force us to have to spend another early pick to find the best LG starter. If Schmitz is that guy, that's fine, but position flex is far less important to me than finding the best guard for this year.

I think the converse to that is thinking that you shouldn’t look to replace a given player at a position because they are under contract and are good enough.

I like Schmitz (and Avila) in particular because I think he can play both OG or Center, which are two positions we are thin at.

Keep in mind, Biadasz is a free agent after this season. Like we did McGovern this offseason, he’s not a guy I’d be opening the vaults for. If he came back on a decent deal, sure, let’s keep him. Otherwise, he can walk.

 

[Gaede]

I could see us grabbing him in 1. I don't think a single one of us would blink twice (this time around) about drafting Frederick in 1. Our line hasn't been the same since he retired. If Smitz can be a Frederick type player, that's a smart pick

Plug him in at G this year and next year he's the center

 

[Pass2Run]

Atleast let him play a game first.

At least comprehend "potential."

 

[cnuball21]

I think the converse to that is thinking that you shouldn’t look to replace a given player at a position because they are under contract and are good enough.

I like Schmitz (and Avila) in particular because I think he can play both OG or Center, which are two positions we are thin at.

Keep in mind, Biadasz is a free agent after this season. Like we did McGovern this offseason, he’s not a guy I’d be opening the vaults for. If he came back on a decent deal, sure, let’s keep him. Otherwise, he can walk.

Has JMS played G?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Has JMS played G?

No, he played exclusively at center in college, so I’m admittedly projecting a little bit.