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LONDON (AP) -- Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is in Britain this week to support the cause. He thinks it's great that the Giants and Dolphins have come overseas for a regular-season game that will boost the NFL's global image.
So, when can we expect to see America's Team in London?
"Well, that probably wouldn't work for us," Jones said Thursday of the NFL's newest international marketing project.
Jones' take was one of the few sobering opinions to come out of interviews during a conference of international sports leaders being held in conjunction with the NFL's first regulamajority said the Giants-Dolphins game, scheduled for Sunday at sold-out Wembley Stadium, is a logical and positive next step in a project more than 30 years in the making. The first overseas NFL game was an exhibition contest in Tokyo in 1976.
"I wouldn't want to put any kind of number on it," said the NFL's international vice president, Mark Waller, when asked how big this international push could get. "I don't think if anyone sat 20 years ago in any office, they'd have predicted that in 2007 we'd have 32 teams and the revenue we have and the passionate 170 million fan base. Our job is to give the fans the best we can and evolve and meet their needs."
Over the past several weeks, commissioner Roger Goodell has floated the idea of an overseas Super Bowl. Waller has gone public with a number of ideas, including adding a 17th regular-season game to ensure every team one international game a year, and expanding the league to include teams on different continents.
"Not even in the picture," Jones said of international expansion. "We don't have a team in Los Angeles yet."
A bit more certain is that the NFL will be coming back to Europe.
Owners already have agreed to play two games a year overseas starting next year. The participants likely will be announced during Super Bowl week. Just as certain is that Dallas -- the most popular team in England, just ahead of Miami and the Giants -- won't be one of those teams.
Jones said his main concern these days is getting his new stadium built to open by 2009 and host a Super Bowl in 2011.
But he has other reasons not to come.
"Our game is much like it is in soccer," Jones said. "It's my team versus your team. You take Dallas versus Wasington, and there's a lot there when you play that game in Dallas. You play that same game somewhere else, and it's going to feel more like an exhibition. Not that that's what it would be. But there are challenges."
Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga, being lauded by the NFL for sacrificing a home game, said he believes more than half the owners gladly would play a game overseas for the exposure it gives them and the league.
And Giants co-owner Steve Tisch doesn't think Jones speaks for everyone, either.
"Jerry's entitled to his opinion -- his is one of many opinions he's had," Tisch said. "I think overall, the league is going to come out of this very, very pleased."
The 90,000 tickets for the game were sold out almost immediately after they went on sale. There's almost universal agreement that though Londoners aren't considered huge football aficionados, they know they'll get the real thing Sunday.
Nick Szczepanik of The Times of London said the interest began in the 1980s, before soccer was as huge in England, and around the time Londoners started receiving regular doses of American football coverage on TV.
"People saw those sunkissed fields in Dallas and Miami and Los Angeles. It was new and stunning and fresh, and we bought into it," Szczepanik said. "A lot of people spent a lot of time pretending to speak knowledgeably about third downs and tight ends for a while, and the whole thing worked."
Szczepanik believes there is a residual effect of that early introduction, and now the NFL must market to a new set of fans if it wants to meet its next goal.
"It's really not about this game," he said. "It's the third, fourth and fifth games they do here. If you get to where it's the Jaguars and Texans two years from now and that's still a sellout, then you've got something."
The question is, what would they really have?
Goodell, probably rightfully, believes globalization in a society brimming with new technology is the only way to stay relevant in the future.
Waller is leading that effort. To make a real go of it, he'll have a fight on his hands with coaches and players, who may not mind taking six-hour flights for exhibitions, but have a much different view of things when the real games begin.
"My reaction was that it is an away game, and it still is an away game," Giants coach Tom Coughlin said, treading gingerly on the topic. "And that is as political as I can say it."
Waller said opinions of players and coaches will play a role in the NFL's next step, though turning back does not sound like an option.
"We have a league resolution to play up to two games a year overseas," Waller said. "We intend to fulfill that next year."
Germany, Mexico and Canada are also in the mix to host these games. Any effort to expand into China's burgeoning market has been pushed back to 2009, after the Olympics end. In fact, the NFL doesn't even know who will operate Olympic Stadium after the Beijing Games.
Waller insists the entire project is about finding more fans.
"We don't have a business projection," he said. "This is really about growing our sport and our fan base. If it was about money, we'd be playing this game in Miami on Sunday at 1 p.m."
Of course, Waller acknowledged, building the fan base and making money go hand in hand.
Even Jones is on boardfor that.
"I think this is all good for the league and good for some teams. My hat is off to Wayne Huizenga," Jones said. "But it just doesn't work for us."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/25/cowboys.london.ap/index.html
 

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He has a choice? I thought you had to go where the League tells you to go.
 

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dogberry;1730788 said:
Soccer wasn't big in England before 1980?
yes it was thats complete crap.uk could care less about u.s. football. the majority anyway.big deal they sold tickets.soccer is football there and will never ever ever replace it or succeed it.i went to a game once manchester united,its crazier than any pro sports here,people are devout big time.big time.every lil town has a pro soccer club.its the size of PA.its great.
 

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If they add a 17th game to the season, that would be the perfect neutral ground for it. The problem is, there would be 16 of these games each year. Thats a lot of planning. The question is, do you do them all in a single week? or are the spread out throughtout the season?
 

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the nfl makes enuff they dont need this.its crap to me and u lose a home game.
 

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Playing football in London or ANYWHERE besides the USA is about greed.

Period.
 

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honestly, i would love to see dallas play in london but just because i am there alot and would love that unique experience. I would love to take all my relatives to a cowboys game there so they can expereince what i talk about all the time.

2 of my cousins are going to the Giants/Dolphins game on sunday and i told them to be sure to root against ny.
 

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I agree the NFL better remain at home or they might find their popularity decreasing among their fan base. Of course some of those teams don't have much of a fan base and expansion is a necessity. But what makes them think the Brits would want them when Americans don't.
 

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One or two games a year is no big deal. BUT any more then that- ESPECIALLY a SB- is a joke. American Football will work in the US, Canada, and maybe Mexico. BUT that is IT. NFL Europe proved that, in Europe or anywhere else its a curiousity and NOTHING else. If Goodell or anyone thinks otherwise, they will be proven sadly wrong.
 

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burmafrd;1730866 said:
One or two games a year is no big deal. BUT any more then that- ESPECIALLY a SB- is a joke. American Football will work in the US, Canada, and maybe Mexico. BUT that is IT. NFL Europe proved that, in Europe or anywhere else its a curiousity and NOTHING else. If Goodell or anyone thinks otherwise, they will be proven sadly wrong.

I disagree there is the International Federation of American Football and it is played by many different countries. This year in the gold medal round the US face Japan (televised on the NFL Network) and ended up being a very good game with the US winning 23 to 20 over Japan. I don't expect the NFL to name teams in these countries but I do think it is a good thing to promote American football overseas and it is taking root.

http://www.ifaf.info/text.php3
 

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I heard that back in the 80s and it was a joke then just as it is now.
 

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A lot of you guys are sounding like a bunch of old geezer man scared of change and wanting things to stay as they always are. There's no denying the NFL is just beyond huge here in the states, but to call the NFL greedy for going abroad to attract a new fan base and get more revenue I think is rediculous. WE LIVE IN A CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY thats what where based off having businesses and corporations earn grow and earn even more. NOW IF they do go about it and let the dollar signs effect the quality of the product than of course thats bad and can hurt the league. As long as they go about it smartly this can be a good thing. Dont be afraid of change there's a huge market around the world that does need to be attempted at tapping.
 

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juckie;1730811 said:
the nfl makes enuff they dont need this.its crap to me and u lose a home game.
Well if it's the Giants losing a home game then it's a good idea that they are the ones going overseas.
After all the league awarded them an extra home game 2 yrs ago under the viel of making a fund raiser for katrina.
The Giants deserve to lose a home game in my opinion.
 

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J-DOG;1730969 said:
Well if it's the Giants losing a home game then it's a good idea that they are the ones going overseas.
After all the league awarded them an extra home game 2 yrs ago under the viel of making a fund raiser for katrina.
The Giants deserve to lose a home game in my opinion.

Miami will be the home team in this game. None the less it is a chance to bring a real football game that counts overseas. Evidently there is an interest considering it is sold out with 90,000 in attendance and it was said they could have sold 2 to 3 times as many tickets for this game. I don't expect the NFL to expand to Europe but it is a chance to promote what in my opinion is the greatest game man has invented. Given time along with promotion and education of this game it could be bigger than overseas basketball or baseball. Both of these sports have found a nitch in parts of the world why not the best game of them all?
 

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I could see adding the 17th game of the year to do it, but costing fans one of the 8 home games is a bit much. There would be 17 weeks of football coming through Europe and that's a pretty cool idea plus it could be considered a completely neutral game instead of the stupid way they do it now.
 

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I was going to go the the Giants Dolphins game on Sunday had tickets and every thing but someting came up a few weeks ago and i had to cancel my trip to London :(

I don't really care one way or the other if the NFL plays games in Europe. On one side it would be cool to be able to go see games but on the other it's an American league why on earth do they feel the need to play here? If i really want to see the Cowboys live it's probably better to see them in Dallas as opposed to a place like London or Germany
 

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I think most of us can see a Mexico City game by the Boys some day, for obvious reasons.
 

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didn't the Cowboys and Oilers i think pull a crowd of 100.000+ in Mexico city back in the 90s?
 

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Ren;1731158 said:
didn't the Cowboys and Oilers i think pull a crowd of 100.000+ in Mexico city back in the 90s?

I was there, I remember 100 thousand people screaming MOOOOOOOOOOSE when he got te ball.

It was great.
 
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