Judge to decide if blown call in Oklahoma HS football game merits do-over

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An Oklahoma high school football team has thrown a legal Hail Mary in its bid to get a loss in the state playoffs overturned.
Oklahoma City’s Frederick A. Douglass High School lost a thriller, 20-19, to Locust Grove in the playoff quarterfinals on Nov. 28. A touchdown with just 64 seconds remaining that appeared to put Douglass ahead, 25-20, was overturned on a penalty that everyone now acknowledges was incorrectly enforced.

A state district judge will decide Wednesday at 1:30 p.m. if that’s just how the ball bounces or if the blown call was part of a pattern that would cause “irreparable harm” to the Trojans if it isn’t reversed.

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This is dumb. The only time something like this should happen is if there is proof that officials purposely fixed a game or something similar. Missed, bad and wrong calls or rulings don't warrant legal actions.
 

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This is dumb. The only time something like this should happen is if there is proof that officials purposely fixed a game or something similar. Missed, bad and wrong calls or rulings don't warrant legal actions.

I agree and if this judge rules that the game is to be played over or even the last min of the game that will open up a can a worms as others may look to do the same. Having said that there are some Cowboy games of the past I would like to take to court. lol
 

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This is a tough one because it was not a bad call, it involved misapplying the rule. This never should have gone to court the state governing board should have heard, and in my opinion, upheld the protest and picked up the game after the TD and the proper application of the penalty.
 

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This is a tough one because it was not a bad call, it involved misapplying the rule. This never should have gone to court the state governing board should have heard, and in my opinion, upheld the protest and picked up the game after the TD and the proper application of the penalty.

I think the ref should be punished outside of that I don't see any thing to rectify again if you do that we will see this happen a lot. OU and Mizz when OU got 5 downs by mistake or a number of games where a mistake was made, it sucks but I think trying to go back and replay the game or even pick up where the mistake was made would not be doable
 

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This is a tough one because it was not a bad call, it involved misapplying the rule. This never should have gone to court the state governing board should have heard, and in my opinion, upheld the protest and picked up the game after the TD and the proper application of the penalty.

I don't really see a difference between a bad call and a misapplication of a rule. They are both mistakes by the officials. It sucks, but that stuff happens.
 

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I think the ref should be punished outside of that I don't see any thing to rectify again if you do that we will see this happen a lot. OU and Mizz when OU got 5 downs by mistake or a number of games where a mistake was made, it sucks but I think trying to go back and replay the game or even pick up where the mistake was made would not be doable

I agree. Logistically it is not reasonable to have do overs in football. In baseball or basketball the teams can get out there in a day or two and play again and not mess up the overall schedule. That is very difficult to do in football without really screwing up the rest of the playoffs in this particular situation. It would be nice if mistakes like this could be corrected, but sometimes we just have to live with the results when it comes to sports.
 

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I agree. Logistically it is not reasonable to have do overs in football. In baseball or basketball the teams can get out there in a day or two and play again and not mess up the overall schedule. That is very difficult to do in football without really screwing up the rest of the playoffs in this particular situation. It would be nice if mistakes like this could be corrected, but sometimes we just have to live with the results when it comes to sports.

Very true. Even in other sports it is just unheard of and given the fact in a course of a season there are mistakes made and there is no way you can go back and redo it.
 

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I don't really see a difference between a bad call and a misapplication of a rule. They are both mistakes by the officials. It sucks, but that stuff happens.

One is a mistake in judgment, based on numerous factors and the other is not knowing the rule which should never happen, especially with a crew of 5 to 7 officials.
 

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One is a mistake in judgment, based on numerous factors and the other is not knowing the rule which should never happen, especially with a crew of 5 to 7 officials.

Oklahoma high school football only requires a minimum of 4 officials for a game. There are so many rules that it isn't surprising that there will be a rule that is missed or misinterpreted. In the heat of the moment this will happen and isn't really all that different than a bad call.
 

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Oklahoma judge orders no replay in contested high school football game


"The courts are very sensitive to the fact that if they start to utilize their powers to overturn decisions of officials-- whether they're right or wrong-- then you would basically have athletic competition decided in the courtroom, and not the field. That would kind of be a full-time job in some places," Alan S. Goldberger said.
Jones, in his ruling, wrote, "While mindful of the frustrations of the young athletes who feel deprived by the inaction of (OSSAA), it borders on the unreasonable ... to think this court more equipped or better qualified than (OSSAA) to decide the outcome of any portion of a high school football game."


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It sucks when officials screw up, but you've got to get it right on the field when the game is played. I remember the NFL considered overturning Seattle's victory in the Fail Mary game against Green Bay when the refs made that ridiculous call giving the Seahawks a TD on a last second pass that Green Bay really intercepted. Green Bay was the rightful winner of that game, but whenever you start overturning calls after the fact, by the league or by the courts, you open up a huge can of worms.
 
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