Just another worthless FA/Draft thread

[burmafrd]

Might as well join the herd. Even though trying to do a mock draft before FA is probably one of the more useless things to do.

FA:
I am counting on us keeping both Gurode and COlumbo.
Steinbach; if not him then Dielman. If both are to expensive, maybe Davis. We must upgrade the hole where RIvera was.

Backup QB. Someone halfway decent- not hard to do

Those are MUSTS. Now it would be nice to come up with a decent FS, and maybe a good CB, or even a good OLB. But strictly upgrade what we have and do not spend much on. The only position worth really spending money on- and even then not crazy Hutchinson money- is GUARD.

Draft:

As I pointed out, untill you do FA you do not really know what you need and what you still need.

Wade has to take a hard look at the Mont and figure if this guy can be a quality NT in this league. If not, then we have to look again- or maybe we get lucky in FA there (not).

We will almost certainly keep TO, so WR is out.

If we get a good guard in FA then that is no problem.
With Proctor, we have a developmental going.
McQ is the future Tackle so no need there.

Wade also has to think hard about Ellis and what he has left and where he can fit in.

So realistically I think its NT, maybe OLB, and possibly FS as needs.
I would hope that if the idea of moving Henry comes forth, then we get a top CB in the draft. We will need a replacement for Glenn fairly soon, but once again Wade has to decide how good Reeves/Jones are and then make a move there if needed.

So much of this is variable due to what Wade will think after he has evaluated the roster.
By the way, we should keep Automatica- stability at K would be NICE.

 

[sago1]

Agree that we should keep Gurode, Colombo, Crayton and Gramatica. We also need to sign a few of our ERFAs such as Ratliff and others.

After that I 'd really like to see us sign a quality starting FA OG like Dielman or Steinbech. It's possible we might have an in to Dielman by way of Wade Phillips (unless Phillips doesn't want him). We also need a backup vet QB. If we sign any other FAs, I presume they will come much cheaper and will be players someone on our coaching staff has some familiarity with.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Might as well join the herd. Even though trying to do a mock draft before FA is probably one of the more useless things to do.

FA:
I am counting on us keeping both Gurode and COlumbo.
Steinbach; if not him then Dielman. If both are to expensive, maybe Davis. We must upgrade the hole where RIvera was.

Backup QB. Someone halfway decent- not hard to do

Those are MUSTS. Now it would be nice to come up with a decent FS, and maybe a good CB, or even a good OLB. But strictly upgrade what we have and do not spend much on. The only position worth really spending money on- and even then not crazy Hutchinson money- is GUARD.

Draft:

As I pointed out, untill you do FA you do not really know what you need and what you still need.

Wade has to take a hard look at the Mont and figure if this guy can be a quality NT in this league. If not, then we have to look again- or maybe we get lucky in FA there (not).

We will almost certainly keep TO, so WR is out.

If we get a good guard in FA then that is no problem.
With Proctor, we have a developmental going.
McQ is the future Tackle so no need there.

Wade also has to think hard about Ellis and what he has left and where he can fit in.

So realistically I think its NT, maybe OLB, and possibly FS as needs.
I would hope that if the idea of moving Henry comes forth, then we get a top CB in the draft. We will need a replacement for Glenn fairly soon, but once again Wade has to decide how good Reeves/Jones are and then make a move there if needed.

So much of this is variable due to what Wade will think after he has evaluated the roster.
By the way, we should keep Automatica- stability at K would be NICE.

Because being active those last two games really showed you what kind of player he is going to be...

 

[burmafrd]

Give McQ another full season to evaluate before we go after another tackle.
That is reasonable and that also allows us to drop the hotel after next season with no cap hit.

 

[Woods]

I think that we should definitely try to get in FA

1. OG to upgrade/replace Rivera. Cheaper options like Dockery may also be available if we can't get Dielman or Steinbach.

I just think Rivera's back injuries and age have caught up to him.


2. Clearly, a back-up QB when/if Bledsoe is cut.


I'm also assuming we keep Gurode and Colombo.

Besides this, I would REALLY like to pick up EITHER a FS or CB or OLB in FA.

I just think that if we can upgrade one of these 3 defensive positions, and along with the OG pick up, the entire draft opens up for us. And frankly said, with JJ likely to have a greater influence this year in the Draft than in the past 4 years, the less of a need to reach the better.

 

[ghst187]

i agree with the points here except I think we need a WR on the first day of the draft if there's a good one available. I also wouldn't be opposed to moving up a bit to get one.
I think there are a lot of temptations for us but not a lot of dire needs. I really don't think we were very far away this past season. We showed that we could be the Colts. Our biggest hindrances are already gone so I think the vast majority of the problems have been fixed.
I also would like to see us pony up money for one of the top 3 guards and resign our 2 FA OL.
I think RB would be a draft temptation if someone like Lynch fell to us....esp if someone was interested in trading for JJ. I think OT will be a temptation but not a dire need, esp if we sign a G. I think OLB should be a temptation, but maybe not the most dire of needs. Same for FS and QB.
The more I look at our roster, the more frustrated I get with how much we underachieved last season. I'm glad Zim and BP are gone. I don't know what these new guys are going to do but with the talent we have on the roster I think an untrained monkey could've gotten us just as far last year as BP and Zimmer did.

 

[LatinMind]

Might as well join the herd. Even though trying to do a mock draft before FA is probably one of the more useless things to do.

FA:
I am counting on us keeping both Gurode and COlumbo.
Steinbach; if not him then Dielman. If both are to expensive, maybe Davis. We must upgrade the hole where RIvera was.

Backup QB. Someone halfway decent- not hard to do

Those are MUSTS. Now it would be nice to come up with a decent FS, and maybe a good CB, or even a good OLB. But strictly upgrade what we have and do not spend much on. The only position worth really spending money on- and even then not crazy Hutchinson money- is GUARD.

Draft:

As I pointed out, untill you do FA you do not really know what you need and what you still need.

Wade has to take a hard look at the Mont and figure if this guy can be a quality NT in this league. If not, then we have to look again- or maybe we get lucky in FA there (not).

We will almost certainly keep TO, so WR is out.

If we get a good guard in FA then that is no problem.
With Proctor, we have a developmental going.
McQ is the future Tackle so no need there.

Wade also has to think hard about Ellis and what he has left and where he can fit in.

So realistically I think its NT, maybe OLB, and possibly FS as needs.
I would hope that if the idea of moving Henry comes forth, then we get a top CB in the draft. We will need a replacement for Glenn fairly soon, but once again Wade has to decide how good Reeves/Jones are and then make a move there if needed.

So much of this is variable due to what Wade will think after he has evaluated the roster.
By the way, we should keep Automatica- stability at K would be NICE.

i think dallas is going in a different direction then having to have alot of people who can backup starters. as wade uses most a core of players and never really strays from that core. as parcells wanted a fresh group of players on the field at all times. while wade wants more talent on the field all the time. so i think u'll see the starters playing 85-90% of the time.

and honestly thats the way it should be talent wins games. parcells actually thought that dallas had depth that could play with anybody in the league. which we all foudn out thats not the case.

and wades way of doing things has me thinking dallas really isnt going to make any changes on the defensive side of the ball. as theres already alot of time and money invested in this group.

 

[burmafrd]

I agree with the idea of rotating people so as to keep your best talent as fresh as possible for the 4th qtr. To do that you need very good depth- a hard thing to do in this age of FA and cap. But I think we are pretty close to that level on D now- we can rotate most of our front 7 with the exception right now of Ware and Ferguson; so keeping them fresh is a priority. Getting another NT and maybe someone who can step up and be at least a concern as a pass rusher is very important. Playing your starters for most of the game not only tires them out, it also puts them at more of a risk for injury.
I do not think it is any coincidence that the Boys have had fewer major injuries then just about any team you can think of over the last 2 years. Ellis, the Hotel are the only season ending injuries to starters. JJ's ankle, and Henry's groin pull are about the only other significant problems we had the last two years.

 

[speedkilz88]

Because being active those last two games really showed you what kind of player he is going to be...

No, because the coaches think he is the future LT. Sometimes you get lucky, especially when it comes to OL.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

MY FA Wish List is pretty short:

Back up Vet QB.

Thats it. I don't see the need to overspend on a "name" to play RG. I would cut/retire Rivera and draft a guard high.. let the draftee and Proctor fight it out for the starting job.

Also if TO is coming back, no need to draft/sign a WR this year, especailly not in the early part of the draft.

My first pick is an OG,, either at 22 or trading down and picking one late first, early second. Second round is prob a CB/PR type. One that can be a punt returner but also get time as a nickel back. Third pick is going to another OLB to compete with Carp and Burnett for the starting OLB opposite Ware. After that, I go BPA.

I don't think this team is that far away. And I don't think now is the time to go spending big money on a Name to play OG.. we can use the cap space to tie up our young, core players for a long time instead.

 

[TheSport78]

i'm beginning to like that idea of cutting rivera, trading down in the 1st round and picking up ben grubbs and have him compete w/ proctor

 

[LatinMind]

I agree with the idea of rotating people so as to keep your best talent as fresh as possible for the 4th qtr. To do that you need very good depth- a hard thing to do in this age of FA and cap. But I think we are pretty close to that level on D now- we can rotate most of our front 7 with the exception right now of Ware and Ferguson; so keeping them fresh is a priority. Getting another NT and maybe someone who can step up and be at least a concern as a pass rusher is very important. Playing your starters for most of the game not only tires them out, it also puts them at more of a risk for injury.
I do not think it is any coincidence that the Boys have had fewer major injuries then just about any team you can think of over the last 2 years. Ellis, the Hotel are the only season ending injuries to starters. JJ's ankle, and Henry's groin pull are about the only other significant problems we had the last two years.

but thats all it took for the team to crash and burn. 1 injury each of the last 2 yrs killed this team. in 2005 it was flo, and in 2006 ellis. that shows u the lack of depth or talent on this team. some wouldnt agree but all u have to do is look at the stats. im not going to look them up but its obvious.

 

[LatinMind]

i'm beginning to like that idea of cutting rivera, trading down in the 1st round and picking up ben grubbs and have him compete w/ proctor

trade down in the first round to pick up grubbs to compete with proctor to sit on the bench?

 

[burmafrd]

The right injury can take down any team. Where would NE be if Brady goes down? We had bad luck in that the two major injuries hit us just where we had no real depth.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

The overall depth of the team is solid, but it is lacking in a few spots. If the D can limit the opposing offense to 5-6 plays per drive (3-and-out every drive doesnt' happen that often, the I can understand leaving your best players out there because they aren't playing that much. But, if the D struggles to get a team off the field and the drives are 10-15 plas long, you have to rest your starters at some point. Just because they start does't mean they have an infinite supply of energy.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

No, because the coaches think he is the future LT. Sometimes you get lucky, especially when it comes to OL.

One coach did... Bill Parcells. And I'll be surprised if he makes the team this year. I hope he does contribute but other than BP in press conferences, I never heard any of the 'cut off' coaches making comments about him. Sure his brother was a third round pick and apparently started for Oakland.

For his sake I he isn't Danny Devito..

 

[Chocolate Lab]

One coach did... Bill Parcells. And I'll be surprised if he makes the team this year. I hope he does contribute but other than BP in press conferences, I never heard any of the 'cut off' coaches making comments about him. Sure his brother was a third round pick and apparently started for Oakland.

For his sake I he isn't Danny Devito..

Not sure what the Devito comment means... But Sparano was the O-line coach, and he's still here.

McQ will make a believer out of all the doubters this year... Or maybe next.

 

[AsthmaField]

Not sure what the Devito comment means...

I think he's making a reference to the movie where Arnold Swartzenegger (sp?) and Danny Devito were supposed to be twins... He's saying he hopes we didn't get the Devito twin, I think.

Anyway, I too think McQ was a real find on the O-Line. He hasn't played as long as his brother but he has the same skills. Once his experience catches up, he should be as good a player as his brother.

 

[dbair1967]

i'm beginning to like that idea of cutting rivera, trading down in the 1st round and picking up ben grubbs and have him compete w/ proctor

Grubbs in the first rd? for that matter ANY guard in the first rd????

no thanks...wasted high draft pick

David

 

[Oh_Canada]

High Priority:

OG--Rivera is toast. Grubbs is a beast, but no earlier than the second round. Steinbach would be a coup.

WR--A top tier youngster to replace the big two needs to be brought in.

OLB--Ellis is coming off an achilles injury...it's over. If Wade believes Carp can be the guy, than obviously this changes. I really like Antwaan Peek in FA and Anthony Spencer or Victor Abiamiri in the draft

NT--Fergie ain't getting any younger. Not much in the draft or FA for that matter. Better hope Stanley is up to the task.

Medium Priority

FS--I like Watkins and you will see a difference with more experience and added pressure.

CB--Henry isn't as bad as some purport him to be..but Glenn is long in the tooth. A draftee is required here...Josh Wilson please and thank you.

Backup QB--Not difficult to find.....hello Tim Rattay?