Just for the Garrett Haters

[rcaldw]

Take a listen fellas and enjoy!

And by the way, isn't this proof that all the "he was already a coordinator here, he's actually had ..... years to get this done" talk isn't valid. Just like we have been telling you.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/videos/Ware-Behind-Our-Coach-100/e02a2868-1e39-4ade-9331-1b52386f7ec7

 

[StarBoyz83]

I was a jg hater but he seems to be doing a good job as coach. But his play calling is still suspect and needs work especially the red zone calls.

 

[Doomsday101]

I was a jg hater but he seems to be doing a good job as coach. But his play calling is still suspect and needs work especially the red zone calls.

Play calling in the redzone go hand in hand with player execution, when you rush for a total of 5 rushing TD it becomes damn hard to get the ball in the endzone when the opponet knows you struggle running it. DB do not have to worry about getting beat deep with the back of the endzone to protect them so all windows get smaller to throw in.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Play calling in the redzone go hand in hand with player execution, when you rush for a total of 5 rushing TD it becomes damn hard to get the ball in the endzone when the opponet knows you struggle running it. DB do not have to worry about getting beat deep with the back of the endzone to protect them so all windows get smaller to throw in.

Yes, but we also use shotgun formations on 1st and 2nd down inside the red zone and even inside the 5-yard line...quite often. To me, the play calling and player execution go hand-in-hand. Sometimes the playcalling gets hurt by the lack of execution. And sometimes the lack of execution gets influenced by the playcalling.





YR

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, but we also use shotgun formations on 1st and 2nd down inside the red zone and even inside the 5-yard line...quite often. To me, the play calling and player execution go hand-in-hand. Sometimes the playcalling gets hurt by the lack of execution. And sometimes the lack of execution gets influenced by the playcalling.





YR

at times we do and so do other team, you can't get down their and not be able to run the ball it is that simple. It is damn hard throwing in the redzone and unless we can improve running the ball down there it will continue to be hard. If Dallas can get their running game going I can promise no one is going to be second guessing the play calling.

There are many teams who when they get down to the 5 everyone in the stadium and watching on TV damn well know what play is coming because they can smash the ball inside and when they do throw it is more effective because defense honor their ability to run it.

Part of the reason we run shot gun is to try and spread the defense out since we don't get much of a push at the line so it leave us the option of draw or pass. I agree it is not the best way but there is a reason why Garrett will use it, the man is not stupid and knows his line is not getting the push

 

[LeonDixson]

Yes, but we also use shotgun formations on 1st and 2nd down inside the red zone and even inside the 5-yard line...quite often. To me, the play calling and player execution go hand-in-hand. Sometimes the playcalling gets hurt by the lack of execution. And sometimes the lack of execution gets influenced by the playcalling.





YR

I agree with you, YR. I would venture to guess we work out of the shotgun formation inside the 5 more than the vast majority of other teams. I just think we could keep the defense guessing a little better and perform better play action passes out of the pro set.

 

[Primetime42]

at times we do and so do other team, you can't get down their and not be able to run the ball it is that simple. It is damn hard throwing in the redzone and unless we can improve running the ball down there it will continue to be hard. If Dallas can get their running game going I can promise no one is going to be second guessing the play calling.

There are many teams who when they get down to the 5 everyone in the stadium and watching on TV damn well know what play is coming because they can smash the ball inside and when they do throw it is more effective because defense honor their ability to run it.

Part of the reason we run shot gun is to try and spread the defense out since we don't get much of a push at the line so it leave us the option of draw or pass. I agree it is not the best way but there is a reason why Garrett will use it, the man is not stupid and knows his line is not getting the push

This. Garrett has been severely handcuffed by the offensive line's lack of ability to get any sort of push. Think about it - anytime we're in a dire situation where we need 1-3 yards for a first down/touchdown, how often have we come through?

Garrett knows damn well he can't count on the line and that's why we pass in the red zone so much.

Hopefully this is where Callahan makes a difference most.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I love me some Garrett. Yes he's made some mistakes like every coach does, but he's a very good young coach with the potential to be great. I think he's gonna do a great job this season. I thought he did a very solid job last season with the exception of the disaster at the end of the Arizona game. Count me in on the Garrett bandwagon. I believe in Jason Garrett.

 

[Doomsday101]

This. Garrett has been severely handcuffed by the offensive line's lack of ability to get any sort of push. Think about it - anytime we're in a dire situation where we need 1-3 yards for a first down/touchdown, how often have we come through?

Garrett knows damn well he can't count on the line and that's why we pass in the red zone so much.

Hopefully this is where Callahan makes a difference most.

I agree. I think Garrett would line up more often in a pro set if he had faith in the guys up front opening a lane but man so often defense penetrates and we end up with defenders in our back field. By using shot gun it allows more space to work in because it forced the defense to spread out.

My hope is Callahan can develop these guys so that we can become a better run team in short yardage and goal line situation if he can it opens up a lot of plays for us in these situations

 

[CATCH17]

I was a jg hater but he seems to be doing a good job as coach. But his play calling is still suspect and needs work especially the red zone calls.

I'm not a fan of him as a playcaller. Sometimes he needs to shorten the routes and just get the ball in our receivers hands. Instead he likes to run them into coverage and a lot of times they just won't get open downfield.


That is just a small part of my issues. Consistently letting the playclock go to 1 second is not worth it either imo. It just gets your O Line Tee'd off on consistently.

Not a fan of his game management last season either.


Bottom line is I want better results. If you get results as a coach than I am a fan but this guy doesn't have the track record to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt for a long period of time.

 

[TNCowboy]

Take a listen fellas and enjoy!

And by the way, isn't this proof that all the "he was already a coordinator here, he's actually had ..... years to get this done" talk isn't valid. Just like we have been telling you.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/videos/Ware-Behind-Our-Coach-100/e02a2868-1e39-4ade-9331-1b52386f7ec7

:laugh2: "Proof" of what? I'd wager you could go back in time and find similar comments from Cowboy players in 2008-2010. Or Parcells before him. Maybe even Campo.

Just like you could go back and find that most of the same homers who defend now Garrett like he's family, were doing the same thing with Wade Phillips up until the last few weeks of his time here.

 

[erod]

Just for context, there are 32 fan bases that complain about playcalling.

It's an easy fallback when players simply can't execute.

 

[jazzcat22]

I'm not a fan of him as a playcaller. Sometimes he needs to shorten the routes and just get the ball in our receivers hands. Instead he likes to run them into coverage and a lot of times they just won't get open downfield.


That is just a small part of my issues. Consistently letting the playclock go to 1 second is not worth it either imo. It just gets your O Line Tee'd off on consistently.

Not a fan of his game management last season either.


Bottom line is I want better results. If you get results as a coach than I am a fan but this guy doesn't have the track record to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt for a long period of time.

Agree with the time clock at 1 second, drives me nuts.

On shorter routes, well maybe if the OL could block...the WR's can get down field on those routes...:laugh1:

 

[TwoDeep3]

Take a listen fellas and enjoy!

And by the way, isn't this proof that all the "he was already a coordinator here, he's actually had ..... years to get this done" talk isn't valid. Just like we have been telling you.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/videos/Ware-Behind-Our-Coach-100/e02a2868-1e39-4ade-9331-1b52386f7ec7

Words will not change minds.

Winning will.

Is it that difficult to understand?

 

[CATCH17]

Words will not change minds.

Winning will.

Is it that difficult to understand?

 

[Doomsday101]

Words will not change minds.

Winning will.

Is it that difficult to understand?

I agree. Like Garrett or not the final judgement on any coach in any sport is winning or losing. There is not a game I have watched where a coach could not be second guessed happens every weekend but in the end did your team win or lose?

Having said that if I hire a coach I give him the time to put in place the type of players and overall system he wants. After all why hire a coach if you are not going to allow him the time to put his own stamp on the team.

 

[RS12]

Words will not change minds.

Winning will.

Is it that difficult to understand?

Hello.

 

[superpunk]

Two days before Parcells left "We're behind Bill 1000%"

Bill leaves "Yeah we just really needed a change, breath of fresh air/more relaxed atmosphere"

Two days before Wade left "We're behind Wade 1000%"

Wade's gone "Yeah we just really needed a change, breath of fresh air/more discipline."

 

[Doomsday101]

Two days before Parcells left "We're behind Bill 1000%"

Bill leaves "Yeah we just really needed a change, breath of fresh air/more relaxed atmosphere"

Two days before Wade left "We're behind Wade 1000%"

Wade's gone "Yeah we just really needed a change, breath of fresh air/more discipline."

No doubt I support coaches and give them the chance. I think BP was a good move in him coming to Dallas and helped the organization.

Wade 2 NFC east titles but when the team quit on him in GB after such a bad start to the season Jerry had to lower the boom on him

Now Garrett yes I support him I like many of the things he is doing but in the end it comes down to winning and losing. I do think time should be given to any coach.

The old saying you can't fire 53 players but you can fire 1 HC in my view is true but you have to be willing to give him time.

 

[Dallas4ever]

Words will not change minds.

Winning will.

I totally agee! I didn't support hiring JG as head coach and I'm still not convinced that this was the best move. However, I certainly am not a JG hater. As a diehard fan I want to see him have success. Many of the people who were in favor of him as head coach want to toss around a bunch of intangibles and offer them up as proof to how things are now different and why we should see him as they do. Much like any other head coach in the NFL, he'll need to put some wins under his belt in order to maintain his job and earn the respect as a top NFL coach.