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Detroit and San Francisco loom. Baltimore and New Orleans look ugly in the rearview mirror.

The teams that matter are all that matters. We've learned that 12-win seasons mean diddly squat when you faceplant in the playoffs. Over and over and over again.

Pittsburgh and Atlanta and Cincinnati and Tampa - even New Orleans so we thought - are all cute and fun to win along the way, but they're not the teams that matter most likely. Sure, Philly for the division as usual, but familiarity makes those games tight and winnable most every year.

It's hard to remember the Cowboys beating a true contender that wasn't in the division. When was it? Yeah, there was Detroit last year, but that was a gift from the referee on the tackle eligible play. He was, the ref said he wasn't, and that same wasn't given any playoff games as a result.

Real contenders don't have games like Arizona, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Green Bay. Truly good teams might have one really awful game a year. Maybe.

Dallas needs to beat somebody important other than just Philly. Dak Prescott needs to play against good teams like he always plays against the Giants. He's so accurate and decisive against the bad teams, and then he goes brain-dead for three quarters against the good ones.

This season, unless some young guys grow up quick, looks to be wrap, but a truly big win and great performance against the Lions or 49ers would help to settle this season down.

Can they? Probably not, but that's the measure in front of them right now.
 

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Detroit and San Francisco loom. Baltimore and New Orleans look ugly in the rearview mirror.

The teams that matter are all that matters. We've learned that 12-win seasons mean diddly squat when you faceplant in the playoffs. Over and over and over again.

Pittsburgh and Atlanta and Cincinnati and Tampa - even New Orleans so we thought - are all cute and fun to win along the way, but they're not the teams that matter most likely. Sure, Philly for the division as usual, but familiarity makes those games tight and winnable most every year.

It's hard to remember the Cowboys beating a true contender that wasn't in the division. When was it? Yeah, there was Detroit last year, but that was a gift from the referee on the tackle eligible play. He was, the ref said he wasn't, and that same wasn't given any playoff games as a result.

Real contenders don't have games like Arizona, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Green Bay. Truly good teams might have one really awful game a year. Maybe.

Dallas needs to beat somebody important other than just Philly. Dak Prescott needs to play against good teams like he always plays against the Giants. He's so accurate and decisive against the bad teams, and then he goes brain-dead for three quarters against the good ones.

This season, unless some young guys grow up quick, looks to be wrap, but a truly big win and great performance against the Lions or 49ers would help to settle this season down.

Can they? Probably not, but that's the measure in front of them right now.
As Cowboys Fans in this house that discuss daily, we should all already understand exactly what you are saying.
I told everyone several times to buckle up because this is going to be a very rough and bumpy road 2024.
Would be amazing after reviewing this schedule that we somehow even sniff a WC appearance.
 

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In the Detroit game, he wasn't eligible because the ref didn't say he was eligible. If he was eligible, maybe we would have bothered covering him. That's what people forget. He was open because we had no need to cover him.
The whole point of the Lions' rouse was to see if the Cowboys would fall for the number okie-doke. But the refs did not follow their own rules they said applied after the game in declaring a player eligible (verbal AND physical signal). So maybe the Cowboys would have covered and maybe they wouldn't have. But Goff would have been able to tell if they didn't fall for it and go to Option B. But we'll never know. The kicker was they met with the refs before the game to tell them what they would do and got clearance and then "forgot" they cleared it. Then the ref avoided a direct question about it after the game. Yeah, that was legit, lol.
 

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Detroit and San Francisco loom. Baltimore and New Orleans look ugly in the rearview mirror.

The teams that matter are all that matters. We've learned that 12-win seasons mean diddly squat when you faceplant in the playoffs. Over and over and over again.

Pittsburgh and Atlanta and Cincinnati and Tampa - even New Orleans so we thought - are all cute and fun to win along the way, but they're not the teams that matter most likely. Sure, Philly for the division as usual, but familiarity makes those games tight and winnable most every year.

It's hard to remember the Cowboys beating a true contender that wasn't in the division. When was it? Yeah, there was Detroit last year, but that was a gift from the referee on the tackle eligible play. He was, the ref said he wasn't, and that same wasn't given any playoff games as a result.

Real contenders don't have games like Arizona, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Green Bay. Truly good teams might have one really awful game a year. Maybe.

Dallas needs to beat somebody important other than just Philly. Dak Prescott needs to play against good teams like he always plays against the Giants. He's so accurate and decisive against the bad teams, and then he goes brain-dead for three quarters against the good ones.

This season, unless some young guys grow up quick, looks to be wrap, but a truly big win and great performance against the Lions or 49ers would help to settle this season down.

Can they? Probably not, but that's the measure in front of them right now.
Everybody got better in the off season except the Cowboys and it showed last night against the lowly Giants. This is a limited talent team that is so undiscipline and going forward I don't expect this team to ball out too much. The teams going forward on the Cowboy's schedule ARE schoolyard bullies and we all know how the Cowboys play once they get punched in the mouth, they quit!
 

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Detroit and San Francisco loom. Baltimore and New Orleans look ugly in the rearview mirror.

The teams that matter are all that matters. We've learned that 12-win seasons mean diddly squat when you faceplant in the playoffs. Over and over and over again.

Pittsburgh and Atlanta and Cincinnati and Tampa - even New Orleans so we thought - are all cute and fun to win along the way, but they're not the teams that matter most likely. Sure, Philly for the division as usual, but familiarity makes those games tight and winnable most every year.

It's hard to remember the Cowboys beating a true contender that wasn't in the division. When was it? Yeah, there was Detroit last year, but that was a gift from the referee on the tackle eligible play. He was, the ref said he wasn't, and that same wasn't given any playoff games as a result.

Real contenders don't have games like Arizona, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Green Bay. Truly good teams might have one really awful game a year. Maybe.

Dallas needs to beat somebody important other than just Philly. Dak Prescott needs to play against good teams like he always plays against the Giants. He's so accurate and decisive against the bad teams, and then he goes brain-dead for three quarters against the good ones.

This season, unless some young guys grow up quick, looks to be wrap, but a truly big win and great performance against the Lions or 49ers would help to settle this season down.

Can they? Probably not, but that's the measure in front of them right now.
right now, all of those games look like losses, specially with our defense. don't let last night's win fool you. the defense was bad. yeah, everyone will point to the 1.1 ypc, but that's the inept giants. and the giants didn't have to punt until end of 3rd quarter....any other team would have converted three of those field goals to TDs and the game would be out of hand.

the teams that look beatable on the schedule right now are Giants, Panthers. probably split with Commanders. we might get lucky and win another ugly game. so they look like a 5-12 to 6-11 team.

our offense is bad too. again, don't let last night fool you. we can't really run. we were just ok against one of the worst run defenses in the league. that's not saying much. and bad running game results in redzone struggles when things get really tight. passing lanes are not there and tight and the defense will drop 6 or 7 into coverage and have their LBs play off the line given our OL doesn't get a push.

pittsburgh is going to eat our lunch. gauranteed. niners will enjoy another blow out like Saints. Lions are going to have a field day.

and this team with each loss will implode further.....
 

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The whole point of the Lions' rouse was to see if the Cowboys would fall for the number okie-doke. But the refs did not follow their own rules they said applied after the game in declaring a player eligible (verbal AND physical signal). So maybe the Cowboys would have covered and maybe they wouldn't have. But Goff would have been able to tell if they didn't fall for it and go to Option B. But we'll never know. The kicker was they met with the refs before the game to tell them what they would do and got clearance and then "forgot" they cleared it. Then the ref avoided a direct question about it after the game. Yeah, that was legit, lol.
but the ref clearly announced who was eligible during the game..how is that on the Cowboys at all? They covered the guy the ref announced, the rule will never read "Guess who is eligible" for the defense...The Lions still threw it to an ineligible guy thats on them...
 

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but the ref clearly announced who was eligible during the game..how is that on the Cowboys at all? They covered the guy the ref announced, the rule will never read "Guess who is eligible" for the defense...The Lions still threw it to an ineligible guy thats on them...
Where did I say it was the Cowboys fault at all? The fault is on the refs. They didn't follow their own rule, told the Lions they could do what they attempted, forgot they said they could do it, avoided direct questions about it after the game, and then got disinvited to the playoffs rotation afterwards. You're saying with those optics refs did everything right? They clearly did not by the NFL's own admission (without admitting it).
 

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The whole point of the Lions' rouse was to see if the Cowboys would fall for the number okie-doke. But the refs did not follow their own rules they said applied after the game in declaring a player eligible (verbal AND physical signal). So maybe the Cowboys would have covered and maybe they wouldn't have. But Goff would have been able to tell if they didn't fall for it and go to Option B. But we'll never know. The kicker was they met with the refs before the game to tell them what they would do and got clearance and then "forgot" they cleared it. Then the ref avoided a direct question about it after the game. Yeah, that was legit, lol.
In the end the ref never announced him as eligible, no one corrected him, and they played as if he was eligible. Which is a penalty.
 

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In the end the ref never announced him as eligible, no one corrected him, and they played as if he was eligible. Which is a penalty.
Doesn't change the fact that the refs ignored their own rule, said Detroit could do it, forgot they said it, announced the wrong number, then avoided questions about it after the game. if you're a player locked into the game, you'd hope the refs could do the job they said they would do before the game.
 

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Doesn't change the fact that the refs ignored their own rule, said Detroit could do it, forgot they said it, announced the wrong number, then avoided questions about it after the game. if you're a player locked into the game, you'd hope the refs could do the job they said they would do before the game.
I don't think the refs told them they could throw to a player that is normally ineligible without him being announced as eligible whether he thought he had declared or not. Somebody, maybe say, the HC, should have corrected the official on who is supposed to be eligible. It doesn't take a time-out or anything like that, it takes a good 5 seconds to correct the call.
 

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Yeah I don’t get the discrediting of the Lions game…
Even life on these message boards can little mundane.
Matter of perspective still plays a part. People will choose how they see things.
Kind of like having their cake and eating it too.

The Detroit game could have went either way. Dallas got the break. Was it the right call? Again matter of perspective.
I'm at Dallas Homer, so it was the right call. :p
 

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In the Detroit game, he wasn't eligible because the ref didn't say he was eligible. If he was eligible, maybe we would have bothered covering him. That's what people forget. He was open because we had no need to cover him.
i think its the fact the defense just let them basically march down the field and score, then what felt like an eternity of 2pt conversion saved by flags
 

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We are what we are. And have been for decades. Jethro has lowered the bar. We are no longer a championship caliber franchise. Only in name.

I tried to warn those from buying in to new stadium. Once they did, game over. No accountability for Jethro. He doesn’t care if you broker out your seats.
 

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I don't think the refs told them they could throw to a player that is normally ineligible without him being announced as eligible whether he thought he had declared or not. Somebody, maybe say, the HC, should have corrected the official on who is supposed to be eligible. It doesn't take a time-out or anything like that, it takes a good 5 seconds to correct the call.
It does take a timeout. Did they have any? They're not going to stop the game because you claim something. And the refs cleared them for the reporting thing. They weren't attempting anything illegal so it was within the rules. The refs muffed it up after saying it was okay. We benefitted. It's okay to say that.
 

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It's hard to remember the Cowboys beating a true contender that wasn't in the division. When was it? Yeah, there was Detroit last year, but that was a gift from the referee on the tackle eligible play. He was, the ref said he wasn't, and that same wasn't given any playoff games as a result.
HUH??? Oh you mean when Campbell tried to cheat and got caught?
 

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It does take a timeout. Did they have any? They're not going to stop the game because you claim something. And the refs cleared them for the reporting thing. They weren't attempting anything illegal so it was within the rules. The refs muffed it up after saying it was okay. We benefitted. It's okay to say that.
They aren't going to stop the game, and there is no need to. You can correct a ref if they announce the wrong player as being eligible. And I agree, they weren't attempting anything illegal but once that player wasn't announced as eligible and they threw him the ball, they were breaking the rules. It's ok to say that.
 

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I don't think the refs told them they could throw to a player that is normally ineligible without him being announced as eligible whether he thought he had declared or not. Somebody, maybe say, the HC, should have corrected the official on who is supposed to be eligible. It doesn't take a time-out or anything like that, it takes a good 5 seconds to correct the call.
The refs blew it, pure and simple. The guy clearly reported right to the face of the referee, Brad Allen, who then went braindead apparently. It is what got him kicked out of playoff eligibility last year.

Detroit assumed he said it and probably went on to thinking about executing the play. It's not like they have long to get to the line and snap the ball.

Dallas better be ready in a couple of weeks because I fear the Lions are going to blow our doors off this time.
 
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