Just how bad are Rod/Richard?

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Weve only played 5 games. A lot of our key players didnt even practice in the preseason and we have a brand new OC. We are a solid team and its obvious. The panic is even comical.

Your lack of panic is comical. You put up a good argument, but you forgot one thing. This is the Cowboys, and if I remember a certain law of the universe, I think it goes like this- "What can go wrong, will go wrong." (Murphy's Law), and this Cowboys team is the epitome of that saying. They are solid and it is obvious, but the execution is not solid, nor is the coaching (which can hold a team back by an extreme amount). Imagine what this team could do if we had Kyle Shanahan or even Sean Payton. Instead, we are stuck with Carrot top and his non-scheming behind. His game plan for every game is to rely on luck, and our team doesn't execute well with that game plan.
 

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Ask the 2008 Detroit Lions....

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This is what I'm talking about when I say this team plays as a group of individuals and not a unit. Stats don't matter if you don't get the best stat of them all, aka, wins. These players get all gassed up from seeing their stats and they believe their good while their team is 3-2. No. You are as good as the team you are on is. This gassed up thinking will lead to the downfall of the team because they will truly believe they are better than other teams/players, and they will be in for a surprise when that other team shows them who is truly the boss.

Also- though 2 of the interceptions weren't really Dak's fault, he threw 3 interceptions. (4 if you count the one taken away by a penalty. If you include that one, than 2 of the interceptions are on him and 2 are on his WR and a missed call). I would rarely call that a career game, despite the high yardages and deep throws.

I mean I agree that the results are what matter, but the bottom line is that despite the unfortunate Ints they were marching the ball at will. So it’s not like it’s only garbage time, empty stats.


Also 3-2 still leads the division
 

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I mean I agree that the results are what matter, but the bottom line is that despite the unfortunate Ints they were marching the ball at will. So it’s not like it’s only garbage time, empty stats.

All but 3 of the points scored in the GB game were scored in garbage time. I agree, the offense drove down the field and got into Packer's territory many times before the 31-3 blowout came to be, however, they did not score, which is ultimately all that matters. It always ended in a miss call, a 3 and out, a turnover, or a very stupid act/mistake made by our offense. Towards the end of the 3rd and 4th quarter, we began to "turn it up" but only because GB went into prevent. The likelihood of Dallas coming back from that margin of defeat was likely less than 1%, so they let Dak and Co run up the score. 21 of our points were scored in garbage time, believe it or not. Had GB continued to play aggressive ball on the defense, the score would have likely stayed 31-3. Dallas stopped being stupid in the 4th quarter with the mistakes though (for the most part), so I have to give them props for that.
 

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The Jets literally have one weapon. Lev Bell. Any decent coaching staff will scheme to take him out. So far our coaches have proven they can’t do this. See Barkley/Engram, Jones, etc.

Not worried about winning but I can absolutely see Bell getting 150 yards and a couple of scores

There is not a DC in the history of the game that is going to dominate with the players that we have on defense. We have arguably the worst DT rotation and safeties in the NFL. Not a chance when you are trash up the middle.

Our best pass rusher is still hurting in Lawrence. Neither of our corners are as good as most think.

We are one of the WORST teams in the NFL at turning the ball over. WORST!!!!
 

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"We focus on what we do."

Our coaching staff has doctrines that conveniently require little out of them.
I have wondered about this. When you read about how other coaches go about their business, how important the details become in a game of inches. I just don't get the feeling that is how this team is coached. More like an episode of Friday Night Lights.
 

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Maybe Rod/Richard is the problem. Maybe Rod or Richard would be better. Not sure how two guys running the defense works.
 

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All but 3 of the points scored in the GB game were scored in garbage time. I agree, the offense drove down the field and got into Packer's territory many times before the 31-3 blowout came to be, however, they did not score, which is ultimately all that matters. It always ended in a miss call, a 3 and out, a turnover, or a very stupid act/mistake made by our offense. Towards the end of the 3rd and 4th quarter, we began to "turn it up" but only because GB went into prevent. The likelihood of Dallas coming back from that margin of defeat was likely less than 1%, so they let Dak and Co run up the score. 21 of our points were scored in garbage time, believe it or not. Had GB continued to play aggressive ball on the defense, the score would have likely stayed 31-3. Dallas stopped being stupid in the 4th quarter with the mistakes though (for the most part), so I have to give them props for that.


Again. You’re taking results, and I’ve already conceded that front. The fact remains tho that they were moving at will. It was an impressive offensive game marred by a bunch of bs. GB didn’t let up after the huge lead though, Dallas just poured it on. The Amari td was as beautiful a play as you’ll see this year, and it wasn’t for lack of GB trying to prevent. Hell Rodgers was on the sidelines PISSED as momentum seemed to be slipping away. I’m not talking moral victories either, we got smashed, but the offense was definitely impressive
 

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I have wondered about this. When you read about how other coaches go about their business, how important the details become in a game of inches. I just don't get the feeling that is how this team is coached. More like an episode of Friday Night Lights.

Jimmy always seemed like he coached by asking "Given the circumstances, is there another edge?"

Garrett has always seemed the opposite. "We do what we do." "Next man up", which he applies both to his team and opponents, failing to attack where teams are injured and depleted.

Marinelli's strategic vision is "Our simpler scheme will allow us to out execute them."

On the bright side, I think Moore doesn't fit that unfortunate mold. I can't tell you how much I would *love* to see Boy Genius II replace Boy Genius I.

First, I think he'd be better.

Second, just *way* too hilarious to see Garrett get done as he did Wade, especially with Moore already having walked over Linehan's corpse.
 

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Somethings not kosher with that defense...just a bunch of individuals doing assignments without reason. I know they don’t have the roster,but they don’t look inspired. It’s late to the punch,and indifferent like everyone is on flu meds.
 

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Again. You’re taking results, and I’ve already conceded that front. The fact remains tho that they were moving at will. It was an impressive offensive game marred by a bunch of bs. GB didn’t let up after the huge lead though, Dallas just poured it on. The Amari td was as beautiful a play as you’ll see this year, and it wasn’t for lack of GB trying to prevent. Hell Rodgers was on the sidelines PISSED as momentum seemed to be slipping away. I’m not talking moral victories either, we got smashed, but the offense was definitely impressive

When is Rodgers not pissed? He's always upset and acting like a female dog about something. Also, yes, the offense was impressive, but only when playing a defense that doesn't care, aka the 4th Quarter. I do think it is impressive that they can score 21+ points in such a short amount of time, if that's what you meant.
 

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Somethings not kosher with that defense...just a bunch of individuals doing assignments without reason. I know they don’t have the roster,but they don’t look inspired. It’s late to the punch,and indifferent like everyone is on flu meds.

Exactly what I said before. This team lacks team morale, team passion, and energy. Ravens, 49ers, Seahawks, and more all have a certain passionate energy for the game. The team looks happy to play together. This entire team looks like they want to murder each other. Win, lose, or tie, this team looks like they want to die. This team is never happy after a TD. They never celebrate with each other. They never talk to each other on the sidelines. Everyone looks disinterested and they wonder why they keep losing. Something is going on in that locker room because it is not normal for an entire team to look suicidal every game.
 

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There is not a DC in the history of the game that is going to dominate with the players that we have on defense. We have arguably the worst DT rotation and safeties in the NFL. Not a chance when you are trash up the middle.

Our best pass rusher is still hurting in Lawrence. Neither of our corners are as good as most think.

We are one of the WORST teams in the NFL at turning the ball over. WORST!!!!

And the supposed bright spot (Linebackers) have sucked worse than all you mentioned pretty much. It will be a bottom 25-32 range of defense if it stays the same. Never expected it to be that bad even on my most pessimistic days.
 

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Rod and Richard are awful. Defense constantly plays scared and passive. I really thought Richard was going to change this defense completely, but I’ve seen it happen maybe a handful of times since he’s been here. Do you think any QB in this league is scared to play our defense? I’ve been highly disappointed with every single player on the defense this year. Not one to me has taken that next step, and all look like they have regressed in some way. That to me is coaching and just the general attitude this team has on defense. Which is to sit back and let the opposing offense dictate the game.

The bend don’t break works when you’re up by 3-4 touchdowns in the second half and can lock it down in the red zone. We let offenses move at will. Not just the elite QBs. How many times have we seen a backup or journeyman shred the Dallas defense to pieces over the past few years. Bottom line, we need a defensive coach who knows what he’s doing, knows what he needs out of every player on every level of the defense, and who knows how to play aggressive and not give up glaring big plays. Right now the players on defense reflect the defensive coaching staff. Scared and timid. We need bullies on defense that play smart and a coordinator to put it all together and get the best of every player. I love that coordinator from the 49ers and we should have never let a certain someone who just schooled the Chiefs get away.
Agreed 100%.
 

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And the supposed bright spot (Linebackers) have sucked worse than all you mentioned pretty much. It will be a bottom 25-32 range of defense if it stays the same. Never expected it to be that bad even on my most pessimistic days.

And the supposed bright spot (Linebackers) have sucked worse than all you mentioned pretty much. It will be a bottom 25-32 range of defense if it stays the same. Never expected it to be that bad even on my most pessimistic days.

DT's are nowhere, safeties are 20 yards behind. Linebackers have to do it all.
 

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Our offense is number 1. Stats say our defense and offense are good. We beat ourselves the last couple of games....the panic is unwarranted.
Who cares what stats say! Did you watch the last 2 games. There’s lies, dam lies, and statistics!
 

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Exactly what I said before. This team lacks team morale, team passion, and energy. Ravens, 49ers, Seahawks, and more all have a certain passionate energy for the game. The team looks happy to play together. This entire team looks like they want to murder each other. Win, lose, or tie, this team looks like they want to die. This team is never happy after a TD. They never celebrate with each other. They never talk to each other on the sidelines. Everyone looks disinterested and they wonder why they keep losing. Something is going on in that locker room because it is not normal for an entire team to look suicidal every game.
It’s not that bad,they just look unenthused probably knowing they don’t have the horses needed to deal with teams and that X,’s and O’s stuff won’t fix it, Plus Rod and Richards are two separate minds. It’s not very stable situation for players that way...
I look at the roster upfront and I see we’re screwed if so and so can’t go scenarios. We’ll,we’re screwed. The Hill pick and loss of players to rotate is why. That weakened the line,not strengthened it in doing so. Quinn is nice,but he can‘t cover for that. It’s just double Lawrence and push these guys around. You need bulls on a line to keep it a line. Heard every damn excuse for why you don’t,but the evidence says contrary and would like the opportunity for that litmus test to be played out at least. It can’t be though with Rod. .
 
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