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Just thinking out loud here....

It seems to me that, with the acquisition of Pacman, Dallas now has one of the better (if not the best) 1-2-3 set of corners in the league along with Newman and Henry. It also seems to me that, while corner is still a need as Newman and Henry are not youngins anymore, it is no longer a pressing need that MUST be addressed in round one. We may still pick one, but it gives us much more flexibility

Because of this, and because of the fact that Jerry finally got this done just before the draft, I am led to believe that Jerry plans on doing something dramatic with our picks. If this hadnt gone down, I would have been surprised with a serious effort to trade up acquire a big name player. Now, it seems almost guranteed. Jerry likely feels much more comfortable trading up for McFadden or another player of serious interest (maybe Mendenhall). He also might be more willing to sweeten a deal for one of the big name WRs like Williams.

For the record, I'd be happy standing pat and not trading our picks (but if we do, trading for a WR would be a much better option than trading up IMO). It just all makes too much sense, though.
 

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As much as we've said it shouldn't, I bet this *does* affect our stance on drafting a corner. Even if that means moving down some and drafting one later than we expected.

And... I still wouldn't completely rule out McFadden with this done.
 

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I like our picks where they are. If a CB we love (top 10 type love) falls to about 16, we should see if a first and a third can move us up to grab him.

This is a hedge against TNew's possible FA exit next year and Henry's perennial injury problems.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2046592 said:
As much as we've said it shouldn't, I bet this *does* affect our stance on drafting a corner. Even if that means moving down some and drafting one later than we expected.

And... I still wouldn't completely rule out McFadden with this done.

I had completely ruled out McFadden for months until now. Jerry's sly responses to all these questions about trading up, coupled with his urgency to get this deal done and his past poenchant for draft day moves....well, it doesnt take a genius to put the pieces together
 

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I would consider giving both our 1st rounders for Roy Williams and their 2nd round pick. We could still get good RB and CB in the second.
 

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Yeah...now we don't have to take one at 22. We can take Cason at 28. ;)

I think it would be beyond foolish to rely on Pacman for anything at this point in time.

We should go on with the draft as if this never happened IMO.
 

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One of the things Jerry said that stays in my mind is when he talked about past mistakes and drafting backup players instead of impact players. And his mindset now is that he would consider packaging picks for those type of players. All these mock drafts have us picking backup players which is the very mistake he felt he made when the 90s teams when they fell apart.
 

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I still want us to draft a corner with our first pick.

Think about it. Think about how good our defense can be with four quality corners, and a good pass rush. Add to the fact that we already are fairly good at stopping the run, and we could become a very good, and very solid team.

If we can somehow trade our 28 for Roy, and then pick up a RB in the 2nd round, we are really going to be sitting in a damn good position going into next year.
 

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If not a trade for Roy Williams, Jones at 22 and Cason at 28 works for me.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2046619 said:
One of the things Jerry said that stays in my mind is when he talked about past mistakes and drafting backup players instead of impact players. And his mindset now is that he would consider packaging picks for those type of players. All these mock drafts have us picking backup players which is the very mistake he felt he made when the 90s teams when they fell apart.

yep...he said it was a huge mistake and wondered how much better those teams of the mid to late 90's would have been had he been more aggressive instead of trading down for lesser guys...

McFadden is the biggest impact player in the draft...we'd see some huge ROI from him...much more than using a late 1st on a 4th string CB or a WR that might not even see the field...and if they are gonna take a RB in the first, why not get the best one? Everyone wants to say drafting a CB is a hedge against Newman potentially leaving after the season, what about the potential that we dont sign MBIII long term? He might be in his last yr here too

David
 

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CrazyCowboy;2047208 said:
We will go with the best rb available--watch

I agree. The rb class this year is stacked with at least 4 potential starters. There's no need to trade up for McFadden when you can stay with the 22nd or 28th pick and get your rb.
 

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rojan;2046602 said:
I would consider giving both our 1st rounders for Roy Williams and their 2nd round pick. We could still get good RB and CB in the second.

I totally, and I would be fine with that. Getting Roy, Cason/Flowers and Charles/Rice/Johnson would be great.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2046619 said:
One of the things Jerry said that stays in my mind is when he talked about past mistakes and drafting backup players instead of impact players. And his mindset now is that he would consider packaging picks for those type of players. All these mock drafts have us picking backup players which is the very mistake he felt he made when the 90s teams when they fell apart.

Impact players play havoc with the salary cap. There are not many impact players available this year for where they pick. Dallas should draft a CB at 22 or 28 and then take a flyer on Jack Ikegwuonu and let him "red shirt" for a year.
 

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dbair1967;2047219 said:
yep...he said it was a huge mistake and wondered how much better those teams of the mid to late 90's would have been had he been more aggressive instead of trading down for lesser guys...

McFadden is the biggest impact player in the draft...we'd see some huge ROI from him...much more than using a late 1st on a 4th string CB or a WR that might not even see the field...and if they are gonna take a RB in the first, why not get the best one? Everyone wants to say drafting a CB is a hedge against Newman potentially leaving after the season, what about the potential that we dont sign MBIII long term? He might be in his last yr here too

David

I never thought this scenario was a possibility till now. Now I say hmmmm...
 

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rojan;2046602 said:
I would consider giving both our 1st rounders for Roy Williams and their 2nd round pick. We could still get good RB and CB in the second.

that's an interesting thought.
 

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rojan;2046602 said:
I would consider giving both our 1st rounders for Roy Williams and their 2nd round pick. We could still get good RB and CB in the second.
Interesting Thought!.
 

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CrazyCowboy;2047208 said:
We will go with the best rb available--watch

We are not picking a RB in the first round IMO

Not when we're going to extend MBIII. I think we go corner, maybe Oline or safety..possibly if Phillips is on the board when we're up.
 

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tomson75;2046607 said:
I think it would be beyond foolish to rely on Pacman for anything at this point in time.
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Um how long has it been since pacman played the football game? Anyone know if he is even currently eligible to play????Oh yeah he is not...bummer

Lets at least wait till training camp or better yet pre-season to start predicting Doomsday V. 19,470, becuase I know thats what a lot of y'all are thinking. Those predictions have not gotten our D too far in recent years remember ("oh yeah")...

Draft needs to be a safe and sturdy draft...need to get a young corner, and a solid RB and a good receiver and another LB, probably first...(jk, jk)...all this pacman pandemonium is killing me!
 

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We would be fools to rely on Pacman this year. If he plays all year and stays out of trouble; that's great. I'll take that luxury. I say we should still go after one of those corners in the first.
 
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