Just talked to a reliable source...

[supercowboy8]

I just can't get on board with a 1st round DE after watching Ball and Colombo hamstring the team for an entire season.

I agree but there is a 1st round FS except for Peterson or when FA starts we get Huff.
Now as for RT they said we would trade back in to the 1st and get a RT, hopefully not Solder, I like Sherrod but he isn't really a true RT and Castanzo will be gone, maybe Carimi will be there. I hope we can pull of Watt, Carimi, Harris, and Rackley. That would make me a very very happy fan. Then sign Huff, Daniel Manning, and Justin Blalock. Cut Colombo, Barber, and Davis. Sounds like a plan to me.

 

[TheCount]

Watt's grown on me, wouldn't mind if he were the pick but I still feel like he'll have a tough time making much impact in a 3-4.

 

[dmq]

Would rather take an OT w/ both picks.

 

[Bizwah]

I really like the Watt possiblility.

I'm having a tough time seeing how a trade-up for Peterson will work. I love the idea of drafting him....I just don't see how we could fill our needs on the OL, DL, and MLB with trading up.

Trade down to 14 for an extra third....

Select JJ Watt

Use a third plus our early second to trade up late in first to take...

Nate Solder

Use our third to take....

Martez Wilson

Use our fourth to take....

Demarcus VanDyke

Fifth round....

Deunta Williams

Lots of possibilities in a trade-down.

 

[supercowboy8]

Watt's grown on me, wouldn't mind if he were the pick but I still feel like he'll have a tough time making much impact in a 3-4.

really, why? I see him as a true 3-4 DE. He played DT, inside slant DE, outside DE and even up on his feet like a LB at Wisconsin. He used strength to control the blockers and hold his ground. Also used power to bull through the blockers to get to the ball. He can collapse a pocket and get pressure and he has great heart and that never give up attitude. You have to love his motor.
I think if we trade back a few times, add mutiple picks and Watt then its a great start to the draft. Watt had 21 TFL this past college season.
Watt reminds me alot of Justin Smith.

 

[unionjack8]

meh, spears had a better career in college than watt and he gets crucified. i guess i'd be just ok with this but n ot excited

 

[supercowboy8]

meh, spears had a better career in college than watt and he gets crucified. i guess i'd be just ok with this but not excited

I agree spears had a great college career but I never thought he had the heart and motor to play 3-4 DE. Watt does. Spears seems to give up or just does his job. Spears can take on blocks and stop the run and redirect running backs and close lanes but isn't a great pass rushers. Spears was a DT at LSU and got pressure up the middle. Watt played all over the line, even standing up like a OLB on some plays.

 

[TheSport78]

I agree spears had a great college career but I never thought he had the heart and motor to play 3-4 DE. Watt does. Spears seems to give up or just does his job. Spears can take on blocks and stop the run and redirect running backs and close lanes but isn't a great pass rushers. Spears was a DT at LSU and got pressure up the middle. Watt played all over the line, even standing up like a OLB on some plays.

This is why I think Rob Ryan's input will play a role in who we select on Thursday. Watt would be a 3 down player for us. I think that's a big value right now. He could play in the base and then slide inside in nickel/dime situations. Spears and Olshansky were never more than 2 down players and Bowen is best suited in 3rd down, pass rushing situations.

 

[This is Our Year]

When you say "out of reach" does that mean where the club projects him to go so we can trade up? Or out of reach at 9, because there's no way he falls to 9. However, I do hope we trade up and land the guy!

 

[Dcowboy84]

my thing with Watt is that if we picked him we would need to trade back enough to make it a good value for a 3-4 DE. would he be filling Spears' role? does that mean he's automatically the starter with Igor and Bowen/Hatcher are backups again?

we took Spears at 20 and he has been solid but i don't think he's played like a 1st round value. we've done a good job picking DEs in the later rounds/UFA

can Watt play inside in the nickel? i think that's a big key if we were to pick a DE in the 1st round, they can't be just a 2-down run stopper.

i personally am more a fan of Cam Jordan if we go with a DE. he's played all his college years in a 3-4 and he can move all over the line. he just seems like a greater value if we go down to picks 13-17

 

[RS12]

If they get Watt I'd rather dump Igor and resign Spears.

 

[TheSport78]

my thing with Watt is that if we picked him we would need to trade back enough to make it a good value for a 3-4 DE. would he be filling Spears' role? does that mean he's automatically the starter with Igor and Bowen/Hatcher are backups again?

we took Spears at 20 and he has been solid but i don't think he's played like a 1st round value. we've done a good job picking DEs in the later rounds/UFA

can Watt play inside in the nickel? i think that's a big key if we were to pick a DE in the 1st round, they can't be just a 2-down run stopper.

i personally am more a fan of Cam Jordan if we go with a DE. he's played all his college years in a 3-4 and he can move all over the line. he just seems like a greater value if we go down to picks 13-17

I think he can.

 

[supercowboy8]

my thing with Watt is that if we picked him we would need to trade back enough to make it a good value for a 3-4 DE. would he be filling Spears' role? does that mean he's automatically the starter with Igor and Bowen/Hatcher are backups again?

we took Spears at 20 and he has been solid but i don't think he's played like a 1st round value. we've done a good job picking DEs in the later rounds/UFA

can Watt play inside in the nickel? i think that's a big key if we were to pick a DE in the 1st round, they can't be just a 2-down run stopper.

i personally am more a fan of Cam Jordan if we go with a DE. he's played all his college years in a 3-4 and he can move all over the line. he just seems like a greater value if we go down to picks 13-17

No way Watt makes it past 17 or 18. NE and SD would both like to have him. Spears is gone, I think Watt is more of a 3-4 RDE. I would move Igor to LDE.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I just spoke to a reliable source as well.

He stated that the team believes they have holes at OT, DE, and in the secondary.

He went on to say we will likely look to address those holes in the draft.

And he confirmed that we have the 9th overall selection, although we may either trade up, down, or remain at 9. It depends on stuff.

:starspin

 

[TheCount]

really, why? I see him as a true 3-4 DE. He played DT, inside slant DE, outside DE and even up on his feet like a LB at Wisconsin. He used strength to control the blockers and hold his ground. Also used power to bull through the blockers to get to the ball. He can collapse a pocket and get pressure and he has great heart and that never give up attitude. You have to love his motor.
I think if we trade back a few times, add mutiple picks and Watt then its a great start to the draft. Watt had 21 TFL this past college season.
Watt reminds me alot of Justin Smith.

I meant an impact in the way people expect around here, I don't think you need a 1st rounder to do the things a 3-4 DE does, but maybe I'm wrong.

I can promise you he won't be making 20 TFL in the 3-4. :laugh2:

 

[UnoDallas]

Watt's grown on me, wouldn't mind if he were the pick but I still feel like he'll have a tough time making much impact in a 3-4.

ok so Watt

we might 3 or 4 good plays from him a game I get that from Igor

Watt in 2009, registering 44 tackles, 15.5 TFL and 4.5 sacks. This past year Watt continued to improve. He had 62 tackles, 21 TFL, 7 sacks and 3 forced fumbles.

consider this was a 4-3 D

empressive numbers - NOT

he will be another Igor

I am sorry I just don't see it the logic behind this move

your source is getting smoke blown up his

 

[Gaede]

he will be another Igor

Funny how you went from comparing Watt to Marcus Spears and now to Igor. You must've realized, after everyone told you in a different thread, that there were zero similarities between Spears and Watt (except that they play the same position) and now are reaching for another unfavourable, and ********, comparison. But hey, at least Igor and Watt have two things in common--they play the same position and have the same colour of skin! They must be the same then

 

[UnoDallas]

Funny how you went from comparing Watt to Marcus Spears and now to Igor. You must've realized, after everyone told you in a different thread, that there were zero similarities between Spears and Watt (except that they play the same position) and now are reaching for another unfavourable, and ********, comparison. But hey, at least Igor and Watt have two things in common--they play the same position and have the same colour of skin! They must be the same then

doubtful that was me - I never have even talked about Watt

he has never been on my radar - never will be

I see a ZERO chance in that he will be our number one pick

and if Jerry picks him then its another year of bad drafting

when he has his choice of a OT that would be a dumb move IMO

but no lets keep on paying outrageous money on FA's that sounds smart


ok calling me ******** - thats rich plus real classy

 

[TheSport78]

Updating what I reported yesterday, Goose has Dallas selecting Watt in his latest mock:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/4/25/2131355/gosselin-mock-draft-j-j-watt-to-cowboys

 

[garyv]

the Cowboys Pick. I trust Mossley more than Goose with his Cowboys pick