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[TheSport78]

the Cowboys Pick. I trust Mossley more than Goose with his Cowboys pick

Except last year when he nailed the Dez Bryant trade up, right?

 

[ThreeandOut]

Except last year when he nailed the Dez Bryant trade up, right?

But it's usually Gooses final mock that is the most important. We'll have to wait until Wednesday evening or Thursday morning for that one.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

You still think they love Greg Jones?

 

[YosemiteSam]

If they get Watt I'd rather dump Igor and resign Spears.

That is the more expensive option. :laugh2:

 

[TheSport78]

But it's usually Gooses final mock that is the most important. We'll have to wait until Wednesday evening or Thursday morning for that one.

Goose had Dez in his 2nd AND final mock draft last year.

 

[Hostile]

That is the more expensive option. :laugh2:

People never get this stuff.

 

[Woods]

If Dallas trades down to between spot 14-17, I could easily be the choice being Watt.

At least 1 if not both of the top two ranked OTs will be gone by then.

Between Watt, Cam Jordan, Pouncey, A Smith, and maybe Prince (though he may also be gone), I'd take Watt.

 

[visionary]

If Dallas trades down to between spot 14-17, I could easily be the choice being Watt.

At least 1 if not both of the top two ranked OTs will be gone by then.

Between Watt, Cam Jordan, Pouncey, A Smith, and maybe Prince (though he may also be gone), I'd take Watt.

between them, i would go pouncey (OG/C)

and then go carpenter/ijalana with our 2nd for ROT

 

[TheSport78]

If Dallas trades down to between spot 14-17, I could easily be the choice being Watt.

At least 1 if not both of the top two ranked OTs will be gone by then.

Between Watt, Cam Jordan, Pouncey, A Smith, and maybe Prince (though he may also be gone), I'd take Watt.

I definitely agree with this. Watt brings a pass-rushing ability to our DL that was nonexistent last year. Ware and Ratliff need help. The only two defensive players that would really make an immediate impact this year are Patrick Peterson and JJ Watt IMO.

between them, i would go pouncey (OG/C)

and then go carpenter/ijalana with our 2nd for ROT

The reason why I wouldn't touch Pouncey in the first round, is because he's a one-position player. He wasn't successful at center. Dallas likes versatility in their lineman. If we're going to trade down, I would prefer Watt in the mid-teens, and then we could trade up in the late 1st/early 2nd if we wanted an OT/OG like Danny Watkins, James Carpenter, Derek Sherrod, etc.

 

[visionary]

I definitely agree with this. Watt brings a pass-rushing ability to our DL that was nonexistent last year. Ware and Ratliff need help. The only two defensive players that would really make an immediate impact this year are Patrick Peterson and JJ Watt IMO.



The reason why I wouldn't touch Pouncey in the first round, is because he's a one-position player. He wasn't successful at center. Dallas likes versatility in their lineman. If we're going to trade down, I would prefer Watt in the mid-teens, and then we could trade up in the late 1st/early 2nd if we wanted an OT/OG like Danny Watkins, James Carpenter, Derek Sherrod, etc.

i agree with you overall but think that OL is #1 priority and 3-4 DE is not a prime position. there really is no 3-4 DE in the NFL right now (other than seymour) that you would say justified a top 15 selection. there is a reason for this, 3-4 DE dont end up making that much of an impact as far as pressure is concerned.

if we feel pouncey is limited (i dont agree because i think that he will be able to play C later) then we pick up costanzo/carimi there and go G like ijalana/cannon in 2 or rackley in 3

 

[YosemiteSam]

If Dallas trades down to between spot 14-17, I could easily be the choice being Watt.

At least 1 if not both of the top two ranked OTs will be gone by then.

Between Watt, Cam Jordan, Pouncey, A Smith, and maybe Prince (though he may also be gone), I'd take Watt.

Maybe so. Watt or Prince. I think you can win with either pick between 14-17. I think Pouncey would be third.

One reason I like Watt over Jordan is leadership. I think Watt will be a great addition for a myriad of reasons.

 

[TheSport78]

i agree with you overall but think that OL is #1 priority and 3-4 DE is not a prime position. there really is no 3-4 DE in the NFL right now (other than seymour) that you would say justified a top 15 selection. there is a reason for this, 3-4 DE dont end up making that much of an impact as far as pressure is concerned.

if we feel pouncey is limited (i dont agree because i think that he will be able to play C later) then we pick up costanzo/carimi there and go G like ijalana/cannon in 2 or rackley in 3

Maybe the Cowboys don't put a premium on the DE position, but the fact is, the last time we had a solid DE in Chris Canty back in 2008 (who was next to Ware most of the time), Ware had a league-high 20 sacks. In fact, we had a ridiculous amount of sacks that year. Ever since Canty has left, and Igor has come in, our sack total has declined. So while players like Spears and Canty will never be prolific players, they definitely have an impact on the field and make other players around them better.

 

[DCBoysfan]

If Patrick Peterson is out of reach, it's becoming more likely that Dallas will trade down, try to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd, and draft....

JJ Watt from Wisconsin.

A report came out that the Cowboys LOVE him, and it's very sincere and true.

Watt will be the target in a trade down, and the Cowboys could use those extra, acquired picks to move back into the late 1st, and target an OT like Nate Solder or Derek Sherrod if they happen to fall.

This makes sense

 

[speedkilz88]

I definitely agree with this. Watt brings a pass-rushing ability to our DL that was nonexistent last year. Ware and Ratliff need help. The only two defensive players that would really make an immediate impact this year are Patrick Peterson and JJ Watt IMO.



The reason why I wouldn't touch Pouncey in the first round, is because he's a one-position player. He wasn't successful at center. Dallas likes versatility in their lineman. If we're going to trade down, I would prefer Watt in the mid-teens, and then we could trade up in the late 1st/early 2nd if we wanted an OT/OG like Danny Watkins, James Carpenter, Derek Sherrod, etc.

From what I've seen on Pouncey, he got better as the season went along. You have to think that was his first experience playing center since when he was growing up his brother was most likely playing that position.

 

[casmith07]

Watt's grown on me, wouldn't mind if he were the pick but I still feel like he'll have a tough time making much impact in a 3-4.

Watt would make a much better impact that Olshansky.

 

[unionjack8]

I definitely agree with this. Watt brings a pass-rushing ability to our DL that was nonexistent last year. Ware and Ratliff need help. The only two defensive players that would really make an immediate impact this year are Patrick Peterson and JJ Watt IMO.



The reason why I wouldn't touch Pouncey in the first round, is because he's a one-position player. He wasn't successful at center. Dallas likes versatility in their lineman. If we're going to trade down, I would prefer Watt in the mid-teens, and then we could trade up in the late 1st/early 2nd if we wanted an OT/OG like Danny Watkins, James Carpenter, Derek Sherrod, etc.

save for a great move over the centre in the ohio st game i only ever see him beat TE's to get sacks. He's so blah to me. I love his hustle but this isnt college, hustle alone wont get it done. I see a guy who is near or already has reached his ceiling. Now , i've been wrong before but i just dont see it.

 

[DFWJC]

No problem guys. I would rather have Watt and Sherrod than JUST Tyron Smith and Akeem Ayers or Ras-I Dowling, or Aaron Williams, or Brandon Harris or Marvin Austin or ....

fixed it for you

 

[visionary]

Maybe the Cowboys don't put a premium on the DE position, but the fact is, the last time we had a solid DE in Chris Canty back in 2008 (who was next to Ware most of the time), Ware had a league-high 20 sacks. In fact, we had a ridiculous amount of sacks that year. Ever since Canty has left, and Igor has come in, our sack total has declined. So while players like Spears and Canty will never be prolific players, they definitely have an impact on the field and make other players around them better.

agree with what you are saying but you are making my point

canty was not picked in the top 15, not even in the first round

point is that these 3-4 DEs can be found in lower rounds

 

[Wood]

If Patrick Peterson is out of reach, it's becoming more likely that Dallas will trade down, try to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd, and draft....

JJ Watt from Wisconsin.

A report came out that the Cowboys LOVE him, and it's very sincere and true.

Watt will be the target in a trade down, and the Cowboys could use those extra, acquired picks to move back into the late 1st, and target an OT like Nate Solder or Derek Sherrod if they happen to fall.

Just so we can follow along....Dallas loves JJ Watt, Castonzo, Peterson, Aldon Smith, Andy Dalton...let me know if I forgot any.

 

[TheSport78]

agree with what you are saying but you are making my point

canty was not picked in the top 15, not even in the first round

point is that these 3-4 DEs can be found in lower rounds

I see what you are saying, but the only reason Canty fell was because of injury concerns, the eye incident probably shied teams away as well. But if it wasn't for the torn ACL, he was projected as a 1st round pick.