Just throwing it out there about what was said about Bledsoe

kartr said:
I distinctly remember Carter getting all the blame against the Bucs and the Pats in 2003 when the O-line got whipped all over the field and Carter had no Rb worth mentioning at all.

Seriously, its time to move on and forget Carter.

No one has signed him, he isn't that good and he has serious drug issues. Major liability.

Are you his brother or what? Its the ONLY thing you post about.
 
Alexander said:
I hate to say you are making sense, but you are.

Teams are catching on and we are not adjusting to that.

How do we adjust to Bledsoe holding the ball too long and making poor decisions after 12 years in the league.
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
I just knew you would be out and about today...call me nostradumbarse :p: ;)

Of course I'm here, my dad is out of the hospital and doing better now. As for Drew, I'm not going to say I told you so, whoops, I guess I already did.
 
LaTunaNostra said:
Pray tell.

What would those be?
Leinart,Young,Jacobs,McNeil for starters. Quinn's having his first decent year, too early to tell what he'll become.
 
Alexander said:
Quincy threw the ball away allright.

Right to a waiting defender.

Tsk,Tsk,Tsk, you're comparing the mistakes of a 3rd year qb to 12 year vet, how fair is that? Plus Quincy got his team to the playoffs with Hambrick as the feature back and in just his 3rd year in the league. I don't see David Carr,Joey Harrington doing that in even their 4th year in the league and both had better receivers and backs than Carter did. If we don't get to the playoffs this year with all the weapons that Drew has or if we don't win as many games as in 2003 and we actually have play-makers on defense now, that says it all.
 
Alexander said:
Sounds like another QB we used to have.:rolleyes:

True to a point. But, you forget that Hasselback has an elite RB and one of the top offensive lines. He also was given several years to develop his game, not one. Who's his Hutch? Who's his Henson? Hasselback was given the job with no competition and allowed to grow into the job with good weapons from the start. Not a nobody udfa like Hambrick,'the toe tipper' to take the pressure off him. Where's the committment.
Also Hasselback had a down year last year,you know why, he played almost the exact schedule in 2004 that we had in 2003. It seems that he struggled with Tampa, Buffalo, the Jets and the Pats just like Quincy, and he had much more help to boot.
 
ddh33 said:
I don't recall blaming him. In fact, it just goes to show me that some fans never learn. Not everything is the coach's or quarterback's fault. It honestly does come down to execution.

I don't remember the names of all the posters who count themselves as the anti-QC bunch, but they know who they are. Plus,many of the games where Quincy finished up with a poor qb rating, the first half of the game he had an excellent one, but when you don't get any help from the running game or receivers making great catches. Marion Barber and Thompson looked pretty good didnt' they. Quincy could have used them 2003, that would have opened the deep passing lanes that Hambrick couldn't.
 
junk said:
Seriously, its time to move on and forget Carter.

No one has signed him, he isn't that good and he has serious drug issues. Major liability.

Are you his brother or what? Its the ONLY thing you post about.

Not signing him hasn't helped the Jets,the Dolphins, who benched Frerotte, or the Lions, who just benched Harrington or Chicago or Cleveland who is probably going to bench Dilfer soon or even the Raiders who are just 5-14 with Collins as their starter. Heck, in 2003, after 7 games, we were 5-2,not 4-3 and wondering if we were going to even make the playoffs. Yeah, not resigning him is dooming us to Bledsoe's 8-8 mediocrity and with no future after Bledsoe is done.
 
Any conversation about Carter should probably be done....Bledsoe is what he is. He needs time and the loss of Flo is a enormous loss. I was seriously speachless after that game. I don't even no where to point the blame...The only place I know it isn't is with the defense. We'll see. AND THE DALLAS MOVE UP IN THE DRAFT AND SELECT (pause) : Matt Leinart from the University of Southern California.
 
Drew had a bad game. Happens in this league. All that counts now is the Cards game.
 
kartr said:
Not signing him hasn't helped the Jets,the Dolphins, who benched Frerotte, or the Lions, who just benched Harrington or Chicago or Cleveland who is probably going to bench Dilfer soon or even the Raiders who are just 5-14 with Collins as their starter. Heck, in 2003, after 7 games, we were 5-2,not 4-3 and wondering if we were going to even make the playoffs. Yeah, not resigning him is dooming us to Bledsoe's 8-8 mediocrity and with no future after Bledsoe is done.


I am hardly a Bledsoe super fan, but he is far and away a better QB than QC.

All those teams that you mentioned would still be lousy if they signed Carter.

All this for a QB who has never thrown more TDs than INTs in his career.

There is a reason he isn't getting interest. Its because he is lousy and has major drug issues.

Oh, lets sign him up! :rolleyes:
 
Q - where is he playing? Sort of ends that arguement right there.
 
It's been a remarkable 5 times out of 7 games that Bledsoe has been handed the ball in the final minutes/OT with the game tied/trailing. He has delivered 3 game winning drives and had two drives ending on bad passes. No QB can throw 100% accurate, especially not on the road, in the rain. The Defense needs to hold on the final drive, period. I don't care what the score. I wish the defense would give up its first and only TD early in the 4th quarter vs. late.
 
kartr said:
True to a point. But, you forget that Hasselback has an elite RB and one of the top offensive lines. He also was given several years to develop his game, not one. Who's his Hutch? Who's his Henson? Hasselback was given the job with no competition and allowed to grow into the job with good weapons from the start. Not a nobody udfa like Hambrick,'the toe tipper' to take the pressure off him. Where's the committment.
Also Hasselback had a down year last year,you know why, he played almost the exact schedule in 2004 that we had in 2003. It seems that he struggled with Tampa, Buffalo, the Jets and the Pats just like Quincy, and he had much more help to boot.

But hold on.

If Carter was so good, a little competition should not have mattered a bit.

And another thing, you are wrong about Hasselbeck. Dilfer was there for three years.
 
kartr said:
Tsk,Tsk,Tsk, you're comparing the mistakes of a 3rd year qb to 12 year vet, how fair is that? Plus Quincy got his team to the playoffs with Hambrick as the feature back and in just his 3rd year in the league. I don't see David Carr,Joey Harrington doing that in even their 4th year in the league and both had better receivers and backs than Carter did. If we don't get to the playoffs this year with all the weapons that Drew has or if we don't win as many games as in 2003 and we actually have play-makers on defense now, that says it all.

You are obsessed about "fairness".

What about accountability?

You hold everyone but your favorite washout accountable. It is pretty amusing to see. I marvel at your simplicity and consistency.
 
The Tackle problem is going to effect Bledsoe in a negative manner. When we have to keep people in to help our inept Tackles, that's less receivers going out in patterns. That leaves more defenders to cover a smaller number of receivers. That mean less open options. If was obvious yesterday, there just were not a lot of open receivers like there has been.

Blame Jones/Parcells. Instead of going out on Monday and spending a little money on a O-Lineman (Verba maybe), we sign the cheapest guy available, and settle for Tucker. Now, we take protection away from Petitti's side, and move it to Tuckers side. Now Petitti cannot function. Bledsoe has pressure on him all day and less receivers in routes.

It's not going to fix itself.
 
Alexander said:
Amazing what one poor game can do.

A week or two ago, he was the savior. Now, he makes a poor throw in a no-win situation and he is awful, terrible and we just hope to win "in spite" of him.

We fans sure are a fickle bunch.
One bad throw in one game in the NFC where every team could be 9-7 to 7-9 could very well cost a team the playoffs. It was a stupid, bonehead Quincy Carter throw. Period. Something Bledsoe is known for doing.
 
Weber said:
Any conversation about Carter should probably be done....Bledsoe is what he is. He needs time and the loss of Flo is a enormous loss. I was seriously speachless after that game. I don't even no where to point the blame...The only place I know it isn't is with the defense. We'll see. AND THE DALLAS MOVE UP IN THE DRAFT AND SELECT (pause) : Matt Leinart from the University of Southern California.



The DEFENSE gave up the scores at the end of the game, burned with the long ball again! We need to FIX the long ball protection!!!
 
Dogstar said:
The DEFENSE gave up the scores at the end of the game, burned with the long ball again! We need to FIX the long ball protection!!!

No doubt, but instead of running the ball into the line two straight plays, and eventually settling for a fieldgoal, why not come out on first down from the seven, and run play action to Witten in the endzone.

Then, our defense is not put in that position every single week.
 

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