Kai Parham

[dboyz]

I'm sure this has been probably discussed before, but I was in B&N recently and saw Street & Smith's draft guide rated Parham as the top ILB in the 2006draft. I know that his super slow 40 pushed him down, but I'm encouraged that based on his on-field production some had him rated quite high.

 

[Hostile]

He very well may be a UDFA steal for us.

 

[Vintage]

We have DL that run faster than Parham.

Hopefully, he develops into decent backup material.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm sure this has been probably discussed before, but I was in B&N recently and saw Street & Smith's draft guide rated Parham as the top ILB in the 2006draft. I know that his super slow 40 pushed him down, but I'm encouraged that based on his on-field production some had him rated quite high.

I'm thinking that Street & Smith don't scout for the pros for a reason. Every year they've got someone high who doesn't even get drafted.

I'd love to see Parham contribute. But I think it is rare the UDFAs who dropped like stones make it. The guys who make teams as UDFAs are more often guys who projected as a 5-7th round pick but were passed over. When you go from a highly ranked prospect to being undrafted there is a reason. A slow 40 time is part of it -- but I'm guessing there are more holes in his game than that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm thinking that Street & Smith don't scout for the pros for a reason. Every year they've got someone high who doesn't even get drafted.

I'd love to see Parham contribute. But I think it is rare the UDFAs who dropped like stones make it. The guys who make teams as UDFAs are more often guys who projected as a 5-7th round pick but were passed over. When you go from a highly ranked prospect to being undrafted there is a reason. A slow 40 time is part of it -- but I'm guessing there are more holes in his game than that.

That could very well be.

 

[burmafrd]

Considering how much emphasis is placed on 40 times, a real slow one can sink you. It would not suprise me to see someone thought to be a first day pick go undrafted solely on 40 time.

 

[hendog]

Don't know much about Parham but NC State LB Oliver Hoyt was a beast for them. When you watched them play he was all over the field making plays and hits like a truck. He made a bunch of plays behind the line.

While it's true that draft guides sometimes rank players high that don't even get drafted it's also true that some players that get drafted low or don't get drafted at all end up having successful carreers.

 

[danthefreakinman]

Hey, I'm new on this forum (and chose a Kai Parham post to make my grand entrance?)....ok, now that you're done clapping and cheering I'll add my content...

Before the draft a lot of people were screaming for Parham in the 3rd and that if we could get him in the 5th, it'd be a steal. We got him in the "8th" so really, we got an extreme bargain. I think, from what all scouts/experts say, he could be a quality player but he won't have a lot of range as a LB. At best, he'll be an ok backup that will compete with the Fowler/Shanle/Hoyte crew for a spot as maybe the 6th or 7th LB. He probably won't be much more than that. I'd say he's Scott Shanle only cheaper at this point.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

If he has the recognition skills and proper anticipation, the speed may not be as important.....

 

[Tass]

My son Tanin is a LB (I'm sure some of you remember) and he ran a 4.8. Was Parham slower than that? I mean, jeez, Tanin is only 15...

 

[burmafrd]

For an ILB, the first couple of steps is a lot more important then 40 time.

 

[danthefreakinman]

My son Tanin is a LB (I'm sure some of you remember) and he ran a 4.8. Was Parham slower than that? I mean, jeez, Tanin is only 15...

Mr. Parham was up over 5 seconds.

 

[BigDInCharlotte]

Another knock on him has been that he also has a tendency to play too "straight up" or "vertical."

 

[TheHustler]

Mr. Parham was up over 5 seconds.

Hopefully he was just having a bad day. Regardless, if he knows the game, he should be able to contribute.

 

[Bungarian]

This is the guy I want to watch in training camp.

 

[Manster68]

Hey, I'm new on this forum (and chose a Kai Parham post to make my grand entrance?)....ok, now that you're done clapping and cheering I'll add my content...

Before the draft a lot of people were screaming for Parham in the 3rd and that if we could get him in the 5th, it'd be a steal. We got him in the "8th" so really, we got an extreme bargain. I think, from what all scouts/experts say, he could be a quality player but he won't have a lot of range as a LB. At best, he'll be an ok backup that will compete with the Fowler/Shanle/Hoyte crew for a spot as maybe the 6th or 7th LB. He probably won't be much more than that. I'd say he's Scott Shanle only cheaper at this point.

Welcome to the board, Dan.

I was one of those that wanted Parham in the 3rd. One thing Parham has going for him is that he comes from Bill Parcells/Al Groh's system in Virginia. Hoyte does sound like an intriguing prospect also.

Parham's poor 40 time certainly surprised me. However, I still thought he would drafted. Couldn't believe it when he wasn't. Loved it when Dallas signed him. The Cowboys virtually got him for nothing.

We will have to wait and see what becomes of these two guys. Parham does have the inside track as he is already familiar with Parcells system.

 

[Gent]

I look forward to hearing how Parham does in Oxnard. He knows the 3-4 ILB position well and all reports say he is a good run stuffer and pass rusher from that spot. He ran a 4.6 when he weighed in the 230s, so his 5.03 combine time might be a little fluky. Nevertheless, most scouts agree that he cannot cover in the pros and will be a two-down player. Considering that Jeremiah Trotter also has those limitations, that doesn't bother me a bit.

-Gent

 

[jbsg02]

He was productive in college.

we will all know in due time

 

[Angus]

Both Hoyte and Parham are interesting players. I suspect that one of them will make the team and the other will be sent to the practice squad. If I were to guess, I'd say Hoyte will get the nod.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

ESPN's Draft Guide had Parham at #3, and Hoyte in the top 10. They also had some real lame ratings, though. They had Chad Greenway at #2 for OLBs and Carpenter at #5 or #6. They basically raised Greenway to God-like status, so I guess you have to weigh one against the other.

I know speed is important in the NFL, but I saw Jason Hatcher slow up just before hitting the tape during his 40. It probably cost him a tenth of a second. That can make or break you in the NFL. However, he ran a 4.9 on the track, but I'll bet you he plays closer to a 4.75.

Parham was said to look a little stiff during mini-camp, but so was Anthony Henry last year. It was a whole new ballgame once the pads came on & he started running just as fast with them on. I think we will see the same with Parham. You don't average over around 90 tackles/year for a major program without having some serious talent. Same w/Hoyte.

Man, with those two coming in at 6-3, 250, & Shanle and Fowler both closer to 240, we might see a changes in the MLB spots. I do love Fowler on ST, though. Dude is a battering ram. I believe at least one of the two rookies earns a spot on the roster.