Kansas City, here comes Ricky

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Kansas City, here comes Ricky

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By Lenny Megliola/Daily News staff
Posted Apr 28, 2008 @ 09:55 PM

Ricky Santos was at his Bellingham home in front of the TV for what seemed like an eternity. He was keeping tabs, name by name, on the entire NFL Draft. No, Santos isn't one of those obsessed draftniks. His reason was personal.

He was looking for his name to pop up on the screen.

The draft came and went, with no mention of his name. The silence was deafening at the Santos household where he watched the draft with family and friends. His agent, Brad Blank, had cautioned Santos not to be too discouraged if he wasn't picked.

"He did a good job managing my prospects in the draft," said Santos, "but obviously it would've been nice to see my name up there."

Santos' high school career at Bellingham was the stuff of legend, and once he got to New Hampshire, a Div. I-AA school, he never stepped on the brake. In fact, the quarterback obliterated the record book, throwing for 13,212 yards and 123 touchdowns.

Twenty minutes after the draft had concluded, the phone rang. The Kansas City Chiefs had dropped the dime.

"They wanted to give me a free agent deal," says Santos.

He wasn't in a position to say no. Santos talked to Kansas City quarterbacks coach Dick Curl, who told him the team had kept an eye on him. It was all news to Santos. The contract is for two years.

Earlier this month the 6-foot-2, 215-pound Santos had planned to work out for a number of teams at New Hampshire. The weather that day was a mess, with snow, sleet and cold forcing Santos to audition inside the fieldhouse. New Hampshire's indoor facility isn't quite the same as, say, Alabama's or Michigan's.

"Our facilities are pretty poor," says Santos, who had to throw off the running track. "It wasn't my best day. I threw the ball pretty well, but there's only so much you can show them throwing indoors."

Only three NFL teams sent someone to watch Santos at UNH: the Patriots, Steelers and Eagles.

The day before, more than 20 NFL teams were represented at Boston College's Pro Day, specifically to see Matt Ryan. Santos had planned on working out that day, too, but was disappointed to find out that only players from colleges in Massachusetts or from towns within a certain distance of Boston proper could perform for NFL eyes under the BC bubble.

"I had been working out with BC kids for that day," says Santos. It seemed like another setback.

The Patriots did call Blank last week before the draft to discuss any scenario in which they'd draft or sign Santos. But it became a moot point when New England took quarterback Kevin O'Connell out of San Diego State in the third round.

Naturally, Santos hopes to compete for the Kansas City starting job, but that may not be realistic. He'd settle for winning the third-string job over David Greene and Tyler Thigpen. Damon Huard, an 11-year NFL vet who will be 35 next season, and Brodie Croyle, 25, split the Chiefs' quarterback duties last season. Huard's QB rating was 76.8, Croyle's 69.9.

"My goal is to make the team," says Santos, a terrific all-around athlete (basketball, baseball) in high school. "It doesn't matter if you're drafted in the first round or a free agent, everything you do in the NFL is a tryout. I want to see how the process unfolds."

As far as the nerveracking draft process goes, Santos says "I'm kind of glad it's over. I was uncertain where I was going to be. I'm satisfied with this."

If it doesn't work out, the Montreal Alouettes of the CFL have shown interest in Santos. But he's thinking more heartland than north of the border these days.

"I'm anxious to get to Kansas City, and throw the ball again," he said

It's a start.
 

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You'll soon be able to root for Santos in the AFL, Nors... or in Canada...

He's simply not good enough for the NFL...
 

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silverbear;2067594 said:
You'll soon be able to root for Santos in the AFL, Nors... or in Canada...

He's simply not good enough for the NFL...

I disagree - this guy is Tony Romo reincarnated. Look at KC QB depth chart - This is perfect place for him to be #3 for a few years and then beat out the pedigree overrated guy.
 

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Nors;2067615 said:
I disagree

You also thought he was gonna be drafted...

Clearly, you're evaluating the guy through the eyes of a freakin' groupie, not as a football fan... as a football fan, if you really have seen him play as often as you claim you have, you'd know that he is small by NFL standards, but most important, does not have an NFL arm...

Look at KC QB depth chart - This is perfect place for him to be #3 for a few years and then beat out the pedigree overrated guy.

He'll be looking for work by the end of August...
 

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Where you slot a guy on your board and where they get drafted are two different discussions

He was a 4-5 grade talent that I dropped to 7th udfa on bias of NFL against the Romo, Santos of the world. He will make Chief Roster.
 

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Who will become an NFL legend first, Ricky Santos or Dan Orlovsky?
 

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Hostile;2069222 said:
Who will become an NFL legend first, Ricky Santos or Dan Orlovsky?

with some awesome ability on both sides, how can one possibly choose?

David
 

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Orlovsky is still in the NFL:) and where was he drafted again?
 

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Nors;2070762 said:

There isn't even a mention of Santos in that article.

The closest thing there is, is this, and it doesnt say he beat him out:

Q: What about quarterback Chris Leak [Florida]?

EDWARDS: “He’s a good football player. You can tell he has been in a situation like this. We have four or five guys who practiced for us last year. Their anxiety level is probably not as high. Chris is a very talented kid and always keeps his composure. He did a good job throwing the ball and it’s tough. You don’t know these receivers and you’re trying to throw the ball to guys you don’t even know.”
 

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hey nors, any reason why you bolded the part about your favorite team?
 

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Santos is a Chief - the other QB is not today:)


Chiefs Agree to Terms with 17 Rookie Free Agents
May 02, 2008, 10:02:07 AM


Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Friday that the club has agreed to terms of two-year contracts with 17 rookie free agents. WR Jabari Arthur, WR Sean Bailey, K Connor Barth, FB Mike Cox, G Ian-Yates Cunningham, DE Johnny Dingle, S Ron Girault, CB Maurice Leggett, DT Derek Lokey, G Chris McDuffie, RB Kalvin McRae, DT Maurice Murray, LB Steve Octavien, DE Jason Parker, DE Jonal Saint-Dic, QB Ricky Santos and WR Luke Swan all agreed to terms.

WR Jabari Arthur (6-4, 219) appeared in 45 games (25 starts) at Akron catching 184 passes for 2,653 yards (14.4 avg.) with 17 TDs. As a senior Arthur led the team with 86 catches for 1,171 yards with 10 TDs. A native of Montreal, Quebec, Arthur earned league MVP honors as a high school sophomore and senior at Vanier Prep.

WR Sean Bailey (6-1, 184) played in 32 games (24 starts) at Georgia, hauling in 73 passes for 1,251 yards (17.1 avg.) with seven touchdowns. Started all 12 games as a senior and posted 37 catches for 597 yards and four TDs. The Alpharetta, Georgia native was a USA Today first-team All-USA receiver as a prep at Milton High School in Alpharetta, Georgia.

K Connor Barth (5-11, 193) served as North Carolina’s kicker in all 47 games of his four-year career with the Tar Heels. He made 54 of 71 career field goals (76.1 pct.), including four from 50+ yards and connected on 103 of 106 extra points for 265 total points. The Wilmington, North Carolina product was a first-team high school All-America pick at Hoggard High School in Wilmington, North Carolina.

FB Mike Cox (6-0, 252) played in 47 games (33 starts) at Georgia Tech, totaling 30 catches for 217 yards (7.2 avg.) with one touchdown. He also rushed 10 times for 63 yards (6.3 avg.) and completed his only pass attempt for 17 yards during his career with the Yellow Jackets. The Lewisberry, Pennsylvania product was a prep standout at Red Land High School in Lewisberry, Pennsylvania.

G Ian-Yates Cunningham (6-3, 296) appeared in 43 games (31 starts) at both right and left guard for Virginia. A teammate of Chiefs first-round draft pick T/G Branden Albert, Cunningham started all 25 games over his final two seasons with the Cavaliers. The 2003 ACC All-Freshman Team selection was a prep standout at Hebron High School in Plano, Texas.

DE Johnny Dingle (6-1, 265) saw action in 37 games (19 starts) as a defensive end for West Virginia, compiling 79 tackles (52 solo) with 14.5 sacks, 28 tackles for loss, three forced fumbles, one fumble recovery, four QB pressures and three passes defensed. A Miami, Florida native, Dingle was a four-year starter at Booker T. Washington High School in Miami.

S Ron Girault (5-10, 204) appeared in 45 games (40 starts) at Rutgers, recording 271 tackles (160 solo), 1.5 sacks (-11.0 yards), nine tackles for loss, 10 INTs for 204 yards, seven passes defensed, four fumble recoveries and four forced fumbles. He also blocked two kicks on special teams. The Spring Valley, New York native was an all-state performer at St. Joseph Regional High School in Montvale, New Jersey.

CB Maurice Leggett (5-11, 188) saw duty in 45 games at Valdosta State, logging 136 tackles (92 solo), nine tackles for loss, 2.0 sacks, nine INTs, 23 passes defensed, one forced fumble, a fumble recovery and three blocked kicks. The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania native won two NCAA Division II National Championships at Valdosta State (2004 and 2007). He prepped at Mt. Zion High School in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

DT Derek Lokey (6-1, 287) played in 32 games (21 starts) during his four-year collegiate career at Texas. He piled up 101 career tackles (50 solo), 3.0 sacks, 18 tackles for loss, one fumble recovery, 30 QB pressures and three passes defensed. A native of Nacogdoches, Texas, Lokey earned Class 4A Player of the Year honors as a senior at Ryan High School in Denton, Texas.

G Chris McDuffie (6-4, 330) appeared in 46 games (16 start) for Clemson. A converted defensive tackle, McDuffie earned second-team All-America honors in his first season as a full-time starter on the offensive front in 2007. McDuffie was an all-state selection as a prep at George Washington High School in Danville, Virginia.

RB Kalvin McRae (5-9, 203) saw duty in 48 games (44 starts) at Ohio, rushing for 4,398 yards on 903 carries with 49 TDs and 21 100-yard games. He rewrote the Bobcat record books as a senior rushing 294 times for 1,434 yards with 19 touchdowns and nine 100-yard games. A Decatur, Georgia native, McRae attended Avondale High School in Avondale Estates, Georgia.

DT Maurice Murray (6-3, 334) appeared in 22 games at New Mexico State after transferring from Long Beach City College. He tallied 48 tackles (14 solo), seven stops for loss and 3.5 sacks. Murray won three state titles as a prep at Long Beach Poly High School in Long Beach, California.

LB Steve Octavien (6-0, 238) appeared in 22 games (10 starts) in three seasons at Nebraska after transferring from Harper College. He registered 128 career tackles (80 solo) with the Cornhuskers, to go along with 3.0 sacks, 21 tackles for loss, one forced fumble, 11 QB pressures and five passes defensed. A product of Naples, Florida, Octavien was a prep standout at Naples Lely High School.

DE Jason Parker (6-3, 258) played in 34 games (13 starts) at Arizona, making 85 tackles (52 solo) with 7.5 sacks, 13.5 tackles for loss, an INT, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery and four passes defensed. A San Diego native, Parker earned All-Western League defensive player of the year honors as a senior at Mission Bay High School in San Diego.

DE Jonal Saint-Dic (6-0, 253) played in 25 games, making 14 starts during his collegiate career at Michigan State. A second-team Walter Camp All-America pick as a senior, he finished his career with 71 tackles (39 solo), 13.0 sacks, 19 tackles for loss and nine fumbles forced, including a Big Ten-record eight forced fumbles as a senior. A product of Elizabeth, New Jersey, Saint-Dic was a two-way starter at Elizabeth High School.

QB Ricky Santos (6-0, 209) started 50 games (49 starts) at New Hampshire, completing 1,122 of 1,636 passes for 13,212 yards, with 123 TDs and 33 INTs. A two-time All-America selection and Walter Payton Award winner as the top player in Division I-AA as a junior, he also added 505 carries for 1,415 yards and 30 touchdowns over his four-year collegiate career. A native of Norwood, Massachusetts, Santos was a four-sport letter-winner at Bellingham High School in Bellingham, Massachusetts.

WR Luke Swan (5-11, 191) played in 28 games (15 starts) at Wisconsin, catching 60 passes for 1,046 yards with seven TDs. As a senior he posted 25 catches for 451 yards with two TDs before a hamstring injury limited his season to six games. Swan was twice an all-state pick at Fennimore High School in Fennimore, Wisconsin.
 

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Nors;2069113 said:
Where you slot a guy on your board and where they get drafted are two different discussions

He was a 4-5 grade talent.

No, he wasn't... he went where he was supposed to go, which is to say he went undrafted... I told you before the draft that was the way it was gonna go, and that's exactly how it went...

Colt Brennan should have gone ahead of him, and he went undrafted, too...
 

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Nors;2070947 said:
Santos is a Chief

An undrafted rookie free agent, who will be looking for work come August...

But hey, it must be hard to make an NFL team, when the poor guy has you so firmly attached to his nether regions... :D
 

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Thatssssss why Nors is infatuated with this guy, hes from MASSACHUSETTS!!!!

I get it now...
 

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You ever see Ricky Santos play? Point blank answer that.
 

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Nors;2071069 said:
You ever see Ricky Santos play? Point blank answer that.

Nope... and the fact that you have doesn't change one very simple reality--

I've been right about Santos so far, and you've been WRONG... you told me he would get drafted, he wasn't... you told me he'd be drafted before Josh Johnson, he wasn't...

And now, I'm telling you that he's too small, and has a less than NFL arm, and will not make it in the league... he ran a gimmick offense at UNH, he'll even have to learn how to take a freakin' snap in the pros...

So regardless of whether you have seen him or not, you have seen him against highly inferior competition... the truth of that can be seen in how he was a "running" quarterback for UNH, but only posted a 4.9 second 40 in offseason workouts; clearly, he's not gonna be running away from NFL linebackers, or even many NFL defensive linemen, at that speed...

It's not hard being a running quarterback when you're playing a bunch of stiffs...

It's real simple, Nors; in spite of your comically groupie-esque adulation of this kid, all 32 NFL teams passed on him in the draft... NFL Draft Scout lists him as their 22nd best quarterback, and gives him a late round/free agent grade (their lowest)... NFL Draft Scout lists him as their 24th best quarterback, and the 390th rated draft prospect overall... since only some 250-odd players get drafted, clearly the 390th player is NOT expected to get drafted by these folks...

He will not make the Chiefs' 53 man roster... you read it here first... all getting signed by Kansas City means is that he was not one of the 250-odd players drafted, but was one of perhaps 400 players who were signed to undrafted rookie free agent contracts by one NFL team or another shortly after the draft... which basically means he was one of the 650 or so best players in college football, according to the EXPERTS (many of whom have seen him play)...

Against all that, I'm less than impressed by your obstinate defense of a fringe ballplayer... look for him in the CFL, or in the AFL, in the not too distant future...
 

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silverbear;2071013 said:
No, he wasn't... he went where he was supposed to go, which is to say he went undrafted... I told you before the draft that was the way it was gonna go, and that's exactly how it went...

Colt Brennan should have gone ahead of him, and he went undrafted, too...
You just don't understand. It's a Norsian world and we all just suffer through it. In his Mock he had us taking Calais Campbell in the 5th round. It doesn't matter that some scouting services had him as a 1st rounder and no one had him below the 2nd round that I saw. Nors did. Therefore he was a 2nd round reach. Nors knows more than any other human being alive about the draft and player worth.

He just doesn't know the difference between a delay and a draw.
 

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Henson/Romo next

Ty Law/Peterman:)

Back to Santos - he beat out Leak in open tryout and is under contract of Chiefs and a great shot at sticking with Chiefs as a developmental QB,

Hos,
Ever seen the kid play? Getting past busting my stones, what are you basing your opinions on Santos on?
 
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