I prefer drastically devastating seasons to 8-8 seasons.
They leave no doubt as to the deeply flawed and destructive nature of those in charge of football operations. They are publicly displayed with no possible attempt at denial.
With 8-8, you are sitting on a fence. perhaps you can mount a few weak arguments in defense...."a game or play away from a winning season....". An 8-8 team can even occasionally make it to the playoffs and trick fans into thinking they had a chance.
However, a nice fat, healthy, lopsided disaster like 5-12 will leave no doubt.
And I'll say it again it's absolutely insane to prefer 8 and eight seasons as a fan you prefer losing because you think it'll exact change and that's ridiculous I'm sorry this is some of the most ridiculous things I'm hearing in here that do you prefer 8 and 8 / 12 and five that's insane winning divisions and getting to the playoffs is the two big steps you need before you can take the next steps if you think somehow things are gonna change because you're 8:00 and 8:00 no yeah maybe some things are gonna happen this year when you're 5:00 and 12:00 but to say you prefer 8 and 8 is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard anyone say in here that's hard to talk that is seriously hard to talk you guys have said some of the most annoying strange things in the last six months I don't even know what to say you start to sound like casual fans you rather have losing seasons what so it inspires what we've already been through that what exactly do you think the front office gonna change we've already been through all that I prefer 12 and five and beating the eagles for the division and going to the playoffs 5 our last eight years you damn right that's what I expect to be better you're not getting change from this front office because they're 8:00 and 8:00 or 12:00 and 5:00 they do the same thing every offseason...
The only thing we can agree on is yes the silver lining for this season to be bad after 3-12 and five seasons will get us a new coaching staff or at least it should and we'll see some change but the core players are staying the way Jerry does business is staying you think things are gonna change and they won't the only thing will be different is we will have a better running back next year because this is more like 2015 and 2020 when there was changes needing this is not going back to the 80s I read that some of these stories are so ridiculous that this reminds them of the late 80s right before Jerry bought the team no this crisis of 2020 we're still gonna come back next year with the same core group and a bunch of the injured players will be back and Jerry will be counting on that and the growth of the rookies from last year and the year before and he's gonna do the same thing this season he's always done so I don't understand why you think knowing what you know about this front office you'd rather suffer through losing seasons then at least being one of the top teams in the league cause yes we are a top six team in the league the last three years and injuries got us happenstance got us but this isn't gonna retool and reboot and blow this up it's not we have a core team...
If you haven't noticed we still have some top players in key positions and yes it needs to be filled in more we need better depth but the injury bug got big time on the defense and it's giving you a mirage as if this team really dropped off a Cliff and it really didn't...
If we brought back the same exact team as last year this year and made no changes other than minor again like Jerry always does will easily win five more games without the injuries and with the rookies with another year of growth and a couple of our veterans are gonna retire but there are guys that have been working their way in and you all think that somehow this is about to be blown up and we're starting over that's not happening...
So yes we'll have a new coaching staff I hope and we'll have a few new players and that's about it so I'd rather have 12 win seasons and at least enjoy beating the eagles for the division and being a division winner over an 8 to 8 season any day of the week I don't care how many times you ask me that is the most strange thing I've ever heard it's not here with this front office and this ownership ever gonna change so I'll take the 12 wins instead I'll take a lot of playoffs appearances even if there's early losses over being 8:00 and 8:00 you can be that team if you want but that's not how Jerry does business it's not gonna inspire him to do better he will do everything the same just like he won't put curtains up because he believes in a lot of it actually he's right it's just part of the stadium you do realize that football is played outside in a lot of games in rain in the sun in the wind and some of the turf is more slippery or muddy than others that every stadium has a quirk and he won't even put up curtains 'cause he believes it's unique and that people have to game plan for it and you think he's going to change whether it's an 8 an 8 season or in this case it would be 8 and 9 or 12 and five season no he won't I don't know where you get that it's strange you think that...