Kellen Moore. an epiphany

[nate dizzle]

So Moore was a genius up until the Denver game. The game that Dak came back from his calf injury and seemed to forget his mechanics, stopped pushing the ball downfield, and stopped any talk of being an MVP candidate. From that point on everyon (by everyone I just mean Dak fans, not all Cowboys fans) blamed Moore, even though somehow, just a week before KM the idiot was somehow able to develop a gameplan that allowed Cooper Rush to throw for 300+ with 2 WR over 100 and 1 WR with 84 yards.

So...who regressed after the Vikings game? Dak or KM...did KM somehow forget how to develop a gameplan suddenly after the Vikings game? Or did Dak regress to his old hop-skip-pass-off-back foot self? I mean, other teams are still interviewing KM for HC positions. Surely they are scouting KM and looking at the all 22 tape and still feel he's worth talking to.

Thoughts...

 

[nightrain]

Dak was bad after coming back from the calf injury, but Moore apparently made no adjustments to the offense and ran even less.

 

[CowboyFrog]

So Moore was a genius up until the Denver game. The game that Dak came back from his calf injury and seemed to forget his mechanics, stopped pushing the ball downfield, and stopped any talk of being an MVP candidate. From that point on everyon (by everyone I just mean Dak fans, not all Cowboys fans) blamed Moore, even though somehow, just a week before KM the idiot was somehow able to develop a gameplan that allowed Cooper Rush to throw for 300+ with 2 WR over 100 and 1 WR with 84 yards.

So...who regressed after the Vikings game? Dak or KM...did KM somehow forget how to develop a gameplan suddenly after the Vikings game? Or did Dak regress to his old hop-skip-pass-off-back foot self? I mean, other teams are still interviewing KM for HC positions. Surely they are scouting KM and looking at the all 22 tape and still feel he's worth talking to.

Thoughts...

Toughts on your take or are you looking for agreement on something...I cant tell but I feel like your trying to make a point.....

 

[nate dizzle]

Dak was bad after coming back from the calf injury, but Moore apparently made no adjustments to the offense and ran even less.

Is there clear evidence of this? If Moore is such a dunce that he would make no adjustments, why would teams want to even consider him for HC

 

[nate dizzle]

Toughts on your take or are you looking for agreement on something...I cant tell but I feel like your trying to make a point.....

Tots on my take I guess. Which if I wasn't clear, is that it seems unlikely that KM suddenly forgot how to scheme and gameplan at the same time Dak came back from his injury and looked like a totally different qb.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Dak is a good qb, who needs help to win. The qbs that can carry everything when it’s not great around them, there’s about 5 of them in the league. I don’t know if Dak can win when it counts.

having said that, he got little help from his OC. What’s baffling, was the HC came here as a qb whisperer, and a play caller , he offered little assistance that you could see, for a young play caller. Of course, said HC was called out by his former qb as a creative bore. So there’s that

 

[blueblood70]

So Moore was a genius up until the Denver game. The game that Dak came back from his calf injury and seemed to forget his mechanics, stopped pushing the ball downfield, and stopped any talk of being an MVP candidate. From that point on everyon (by everyone I just mean Dak fans, not all Cowboys fans) blamed Moore, even though somehow, just a week before KM the idiot was somehow able to develop a gameplan that allowed Cooper Rush to throw for 300+ with 2 WR over 100 and 1 WR with 84 yards.

So...who regressed after the Vikings game? Dak or KM...did KM somehow forget how to develop a gameplan suddenly after the Vikings game? Or did Dak regress to his old hop-skip-pass-off-back foot self? I mean, other teams are still interviewing KM for HC positions. Surely they are scouting KM and looking at the all 22 tape and still feel he's worth talking to.

Thoughts...

moores blamed for the lack of run game and the play calls not just overall w-l record.he has zero run game scheming to help the Pass game..they easily shut down the run and made the offense one handed ie all pass which is fasr too easy to defend
the offensive line and line coach are far more concerning then moore himself but Imo the entire Offensive scheme needs an overhaul. daks issues were no run game and pass protections was inconsistent and for sure the penalties by yes you guessed it, the OL..kind of hard to play offense with an OL that inconsistent and error prone.

so no not all more or all dak.,.you missed the other stuff.

 

[nightrain]

Is there clear evidence of this? If Moore is such a dunce that he would make no adjustments, why would teams want to even consider him for HC

The running game was all but abandoned. He won't be a HC next year.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Tots on my take I guess. Which if I wasn't clear, is that it seems unlikely that KM suddenly forgot how to scheme and gameplan at the same time Dak came back from his injury and looked like a totally different qb.

Well it was the Denver game that it started and not every team could run that defense..the ones that could gave us trouble...no teams ran it before that they blitzed and got burnt.. so you tell me was it the QB or the OC or I dont know maybe both?

 

[nate dizzle]

moores blamed for the lack of run game and the play calls not just overall w-l record.he has zero run game scheming to help the Pass game..they easily shut down the run and made the offense one handed ie all pass which is fasr too easy to defend
the offensive line and line coach are far more concerning then moore himself but Imo the entire Offensive scheme needs an overhaul. daks issues were no run game and pass protections was inconsistent and for sure the penalties by yes you guessed it, the OL..kind of hard to play offense with an OL that inconsistent and error prone.

so no not all more or all dak.,.you missed the other stuff.

The run game was a problem for sure. Still don't understand why Zeke wasn't rested more at end of season when he was clearly injured, but that's on MM and Jerry, probably mostly Jerry

 

[blueblood70]

Tots on my take I guess. Which if I wasn't clear, is that it seems unlikely that KM suddenly forgot how to scheme and gameplan at the same time Dak came back from his injury and looked like a totally different qb.

the first 7 games our run game was dominant its easy to call plays and pass when you have a good run game. so he forgot how to call runs, not enough of them ,nor the correct schemes to make it efficient, that the difference between the first 8 and last 8-9 give or take a game here or there.

do you even watch games or did you miss those parts OL inconsistent, run game no longer a threat, etc etc all not great?

 

[nate dizzle]

The running game was all but abandoned. He won't be a HC next year.

Abandoned out of negligence or ineffectiveness?

 

[blueblood70]

The run game was a problem for sure. Still don't understand why Zeke wasn't rested more at end of season when he was clearly injured, but that's on MM and Jerry, probably mostly Jerry

theres your answer stop blaming dak and look deeper no ones saying its all Moore but since moore took over the run game just gets worse.he is ignoring it far too many game.

the first 7 games our run game was dominant its easy to call plays and pass when you have a good run game. so he forgot how to call runs, not enough of them ,nor the correct schemes to make it efficient, that the difference between the first 8 and last 8-9 give or take a game here or there.

do you even watch games, or did you miss those parts OL inconsistent, run game no longer a threat, etc etc all not great?

 

[LucaBrasi]

I’ll add one other thing: Kellen Moore is a play collector, this scheme is just a derivative of JG and Linehan. Kellen has a lot of cute plays, scheme wise it’s hard to be impressed.

scheming people I think of McVay, Shanahan, McDaniel/Belichick, Brian Daboll.

our offense, getting the ball to playmakers, running anything on 2nd or 3rd and long is a bunch of routes to the sticks and if it’s not there “somebody (qb) do something while pressure rains down on you”

 

[links18]

Both Dak and Moore were bad. Dak regressed to his 2017 self while Moore looked like he was calling from Garrett's playbook.

 

[blueblood70]

Abandoned out of negligence or ineffectiveness?

its his fault its ineffective make better designed and harder to stop run calls. the OL needs restructure and some changes for sure new OLC etc but if Moore stays MM has to get in to the paybook and demand a better run game.

 

[CATCH17]

Abandoned out of negligence or ineffectiveness?

It worked with Pollard.

 

[nate dizzle]

the first 7 games our run game was dominant its easy to call plays and pass when you have a good run game. so he forgot how to call runs, not enough of them ,nor the correct schemes to make it efficient, that the difference between the first 8 and last 8-9 give or take a game here or there.

do you even watch games or did you miss those parts OL inconsistent, run game no longer a threat, etc etc all not great?

Of course I watch, don't be a ******. I watch every nfl game every week. It's clear our running game was ineffective due to either Zekes injury or the line or whatever, so did he abandon out of negligence/stupidity or the realization it was ineffective.

 

[lqmac1]

So Moore was a genius up until the Denver game. The game that Dak came back from his calf injury and seemed to forget his mechanics, stopped pushing the ball downfield, and stopped any talk of being an MVP candidate. From that point on everyon (by everyone I just mean Dak fans, not all Cowboys fans) blamed Moore, even though somehow, just a week before KM the idiot was somehow able to develop a gameplan that allowed Cooper Rush to throw for 300+ with 2 WR over 100 and 1 WR with 84 yards.

So...who regressed after the Vikings game? Dak or KM...did KM somehow forget how to develop a gameplan suddenly after the Vikings game? Or did Dak regress to his old hop-skip-pass-off-back foot self? I mean, other teams are still interviewing KM for HC positions. Surely they are scouting KM and looking at the all 22 tape and still feel he's worth talking to.

Thoughts...

Supposedly the defenses picked up on his playcalling and formations. Same thing happened a couple of years ago when teams picked up on his hand gestures because he used the same ones in college.

Teams figured out a formation to defend our pass attack, they knew when we were going to run the ball by our formations & it was easy for them to stop because there was no creativity to our own game, just up the gut and lastly they knew the formation we ran for wide receiver screens. I mean the fact that those two aren’t fired is beyond me. It’s inexcusable!!

This experiment should be over for KM. Also should be for Mike McCarthy because neither one of them realized what was going on and made adjustments.

 

[My3Sons]

Moore/ Big Mac needed to play Pollard more after Zeke's injury. They decided not to. That was a huge problem in my mind. Dak needs a good running game or he is not very effective.