Kevin Hogan

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Favourite QB in this draft.

Great college experience, nearly 68% completion, winner, intangibles, smart. In many ways, he's the anti-Carson Wentz (in that, competition level, experience are not major red-flags but major strengths).

You can point to the funny release all you want. That didn't stop him in college and it won't in the pros. Not when he has everything else you look for. Arm strength looks good to me too.

If you're looking for starter potential later in the draft, he's the guy.

The question is, how much later? Does he go higher than we all think?
 

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Favourite QB in this draft.

Great college experience, nearly 68% completion, winner, intangibles, smart. In many ways, he's the anti-Carson Wentz (in that, competition level, experience are not major red-flags but major strengths).

You can point to the funny release all you want. That didn't stop him in college and it won't in the pros. Not when he has everything else you look for. Arm strength looks good to me too.

If you're looking for starter potential later in the draft, he's the guy.

The question is, how much later? Does he go higher than we all think?

Pro style offense, got better every year, big hands.. Could develop nicely under Romo
 

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Not only is his release long and way too high, but his footwork is atrocious too. He's going to have a lot of trouble working in a NFL pocket unless he makes a lot of changes.

He has the the smarts, toughness, and athleticism to most likely stick in the NFL for a long time though. Just going to take a ton of work to see how many of those years are going to be as a starter. He kinda reminds me of a right handed Jake Delhomme...and I can see his career ending up about the same too.
 

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If Hogan ends up having a career as good and as long as Delhomme's , he should be beyond thrilled.
 

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If Hogan ends up having a career as good and as long as Delhomme's , he should be beyond thrilled.

Yeah didn't really mean that as an insult. I see Hogan possibly being a guy who is a really good backup who someone will eventually give a shot as a starter....Now would I pick a Jake Delhomme type with before the 4th? Probably not...but if we took Hogan with our 4th I wouldn't hate it, 4th comp would be even better.
 

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Yeah didn't really mean that as an insult. I see Hogan possibly being a guy who is a really good backup who someone will eventually give a shot as a starter....Now would I pick a Jake Delhomme type with before the 4th? Probably not...but if we took Hogan with our 4th I wouldn't hate it, 4th comp would be even better.

Yeah. Even though Delhomme's had a nice career generally speaking....and a career that a guy like Hogan (or most college QBs) should be thrilled with....Id like Romo's eventual long term replacement to be better than that and have more upside.

As alter rounder though,he may fit the bill as a development guy.
 

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My favorite developmental QB in this draft. Even tho im 100% on the Wentz or Goff at 4 train, i would be happy if he is mid round QB we decide to take if our front office doesn't see using our 1st round pick on a player who they see as a player who will be sitting on the bench his whole rookie contract as a smart move.
 

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Why does he have such limited upside? Where does that come from? Just because the guy has already done very well doesn't mean he can't continue to improve.

Brady was picked in the 6th round because he was a weak-armed, slow-footed QB living in the shadow of more heralded QBs. But he had the right amount of physical attributes, and the intangibles and intelligence to capitalize on those attributes.

Not that Hogan will have a hall of fame career or anything, but I think there is a similar misconception of his upside because he followed a crazy talented, more heralded QB in college.

And all he's done is lead his team, win games, and put up excellent numbers.
 

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if you are in the market for a backup QB then hogan is a good candidate,his slow release wont be a big problem behind our oline.Its just slightly jarring going from Romos zip passes to Hogans glacial windups.
 

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he's the anti-Carson Wentz (in that, competition level, experience are not major red-flags but major strengths).

cannot buy the"competition level" as a selling point any longer........not when a Vernon Adams comes out of FCS level (Wentz's level) and leads the nation in QB efficiency and takes Oregon to a 9-4 record including 2 very tight losses to FBS Championship contendors Mich State and TCS, with just a offseason to acclimate. All 3 in the same Pac 10 (Goff/Adams and Hogan) And Adams, although he put up great stats at EWU (Eastern Wash), he couldn't drive his team into or very deep in the FCS playoff structure....unlike Wentz with 2 rings.
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The split between FBS and FCS isn't nearly the chasm that all college players face in the step up to the NFL.........and Wentz's physical attributes make it that much easier for him as a starting point.
 

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cannot buy the"competition level" as a selling point any longer........not when a Vernon Adams comes out of FCS level (Wentz's level) and leads the nation in QB efficiency and takes Oregon to a 9-4 record including 2 very tight losses to FBS Championship contendors Mich State and TCS, with just a offseason to acclimate. All 3 in the same Pac 10 (Goff/Adams and Hogan) And Adams, although he put up great stats at EWU (Eastern Wash), he couldn't drive his team into or very deep in the FCS playoff structure....unlike Wentz with 2 rings.
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The split between FBS and FCS isn't nearly the chasm that all college players face in the step up to the NFL.........and Wentz's physical attributes make it that much easier for him as a starting point.

Actually adams gets the loss.....but it wasnt on him...he had a huge lead at the half and got hurt. The backup lost to tcu
 

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Favourite QB in this draft.

Great college experience, nearly 68% completion, winner, intangibles, smart. In many ways, he's the anti-Carson Wentz (in that, competition level, experience are not major red-flags but major strengths).

You can point to the funny release all you want. That didn't stop him in college and it won't in the pros. Not when he has everything else you look for. Arm strength looks good to me too.

If you're looking for starter potential later in the draft, he's the guy.

The question is, how much later? Does he go higher than we all think?

I like him a lot better than Connor Cook.




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Hogan is among my favorite potential developmental prospects. There's certainly some issues & he was erratic at times. His funky delivery has been compared somewhat to Phillip Rivers. As far as footwork goes...many of the QB's entering the NFL will have some work to do in that area.

Some things to like:

- Stanford record 36-10 as a starter (including going 16-6 against top 25 teams) ... went to the Rose Bowl 3 times & won it twice

- Good size & athleticism (1st Stanford QB with over 1,000 career rushing yards)

- 67.8 completion percentage in 2015 (6th best in FBS) ... 65.9 completion percentage in 2014

- Closed his career with 3 impressive wins & performances in a row: led a GW drive & threw 4 TD's vs. Notre Dame...beat USC in Pac-12 championship game (both Hogan & McCaffrey each threw a TD, ran for a TD, & caught a TD) ... in the Rose Bowl, McCaffrey had another incredible day, and Hogan had a big day as well, passing for 3 TD's & rushing for 1).

- Tough & intelligent...2-time team captain

- Played in a pro style system
 

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Hogan is among my favorite potential developmental prospects. There's certainly some issues & he was erratic at times. His funky delivery has been compared somewhat to Phillip Rivers. As far as footwork goes...many of the QB's entering the NFL will have some work to do in that area.

Some things to like:

- Stanford record 36-10 as a starter (including going 16-6 against top 25 teams) ... went to the Rose Bowl 3 times & won it twice

- Good size & athleticism (1st Stanford QB with over 1,000 career rushing yards)

- 67.8 completion percentage in 2015 (6th best in FBS) ... 65.9 completion percentage in 2014

- Closed his career with 3 impressive wins & performances in a row: led a GW drive & threw 4 TD's vs. Notre Dame...beat USC in Pac-12 championship game (both Hogan & McCaffrey each threw a TD, ran for a TD, & caught a TD) ... in the Rose Bowl, McCaffrey had another incredible day, and Hogan had a big day as well, passing for 3 TD's & rushing for 1).

- Tough & intelligent...2-time team captain

- Played in a pro style system

Exactly. As far as I can tell, the main negatives are the windup and erratic footwork, the latter being a problem even with the top guys in the draft. The former is a bit of a concern, but it hasn't affected his performance yet.

I think we tend to over think this whole process a lot. Hogan's got everything you want in a QB and guys like him tend to do well in the pros.
 
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