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I'd rather put McGee in if we are going to do that.

Might as well get him some experience while we are losing games hand over fist.
 

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Kitna can't even take a snap without fumbling, Lets play him... CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

:lmao2:
 

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tunahelper;2992515 said:
When a player is hurting your team or unit a coach must do something about it. While the play calling was sloppy I think Garrett was following the advise Jimmy gave about a conservative gameplan, but Romo was unable to execute his throws.
I think we should have pulled Romo yesterday and put in Kitna. Romo's lack of confidence showed and I think maybe he needs to sit and watch. Kitna is not better than Romo, but he may spark an offense and attack the field, instead of being hesistant and stalling drives time after time. In the end Romo may be able come back from a benching and execute.

I've been a strong supporter of the benching romo for a game to knock him back into reality....But romo right now does not look like He has the confidence to bounce back from a benching. If anything i think his brittle confidence is shattered in more ways then one right now and if He gets benched he will go in the tank.


Best bet is to let romo ride it out on his own...
 

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DallasDomination;2993149 said:
I've been a strong supporter of the benching romo for a game to knock him back into reality....But romo right now does not look like He has the confidence to bounce back from a benching. If anything i think his brittle confidence is shattered in more ways then one right now and if He gets benched he will go in the tank.


Best bet is to let romo ride it out on his own...

The only best thing about that is that the Cowboys will have a high draft pick. Right now, thats the ONLY good thing to look forward to.

I understand that alot of fans here dont want to see Kitna playing but I want to see if Kitna will have a better connection with the WR's.

I say that because the gameplay between the Romo and the WR's aren't looking good. It looks like all of our WR's got traded to Dallas last week.
 

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MWILL;2993236 said:
The only best thing about that is that the Cowboys will have a high draft pick. Right now, thats the ONLY good thing to look forward to.

I understand that alot of fans here dont want to see Kitna playing but I want to see if Kitna will have a better connection with the WR's.

I say that because the gameplay between the Romo and the WR's aren't looking good. It looks like all of our WR's got traded to Dallas last week.

I want to see what kitna can do too...I doubt He plays as bad as romo. And all these guys will disagree but Kitna never played with a decent team.

But again I'm affraid of what something like that will do to Romos confidence...last thing we need is lose our starting QB to a mental breakdown.
 

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MWILL;2993236 said:
The only best thing about that is that the Cowboys will have a high draft pick. Right now, thats the ONLY good thing to look forward to.

I understand that alot of fans here dont want to see Kitna playing but I want to see if Kitna will have a better connection with the WR's.

I say that because the gameplay between the Romo and the WR's aren't looking good. It looks like all of our WR's got traded to Dallas last week.

By high draft pick, do you mean around the 18-20 range, because 8-8 or 9-7 will be the worst this team does.
 

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WHy on earth would you bench a quarterback that is 2-2, whose only losses are against undefeated teams. If a change is made, it needs to be at head coach or asst. Head coach.
 

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tunahelper;2992515 said:
When a player is hurting your team or unit a coach must do something about it. While the play calling was sloppy I think Garrett was following the advise Jimmy gave about a conservative gameplan, but Romo was unable to execute his throws.
I think we should have pulled Romo yesterday and put in Kitna. Romo's lack of confidence showed and I think maybe he needs to sit and watch. Kitna is not better than Romo, but he may spark an offense and attack the field, instead of being hesistant and stalling drives time after time. In the end Romo may be able come back from a benching and execute.

I'm not often harsh but I'm tired of the knee jerk reactions from the reactionaries who know too little about football.

That's a ridiculous train of thought and a more ridiculous suggestion.

The problems we are seeing shouldn't be too difficult to see and aren't unexpected.

The OL has had problems picking up blitzes for sometime. That's on the players and not the coaches IMO. Why, because it crosses different coaching staffs. They make too many mistakes. The whole team does for that matter. Execution and penalties and inexperience mistakes.

And it's not all on them for some of the offensive woes. Garrett waxes between brilliant to ok to not as good with the playcalling. That hurts Tony and the team in general of course. Add in too many inexperienced WRs and you have turnovers and too many incompletions to be consistent on drives. Denver loaded up to stop the run and there was no counter answer in the passing game. Williams is not proving he's a number one and he's being utilized wrongly. He's a possession WR. Too many long developing plays. A hurried Romo who is having a bad day anyway for lots of reasons including his own inaccuracy. No Barber to shore up picking up the blitz causing Garrett to keep Witten in too often. Dawkins blanketing Witten. Bennett too inexperienced to help. Crayton being a marginal two. It all caught up. Give Denver kudos for executing well and having a great game plan for the second half.

The defense has its own problems. Campo's scheme is too unaggressive. Too much bend at times. Poor tackling in the secondary. Hamlin is a marginal veteran safety. Sensabaugh gets hurt and there is no depth although Watkins didn't play too bad at all. Jenkins has turned the corner but he's barely a sophomore. Scandrick is having a letdown sophomore season aided by poor tackling. The front seven is playing good ball although Ratliff is playing out of control way too often. Denver beat him like a drum by using his own overaggression and allowing him to overrun plays and trapping the hell out of him. He killed us Sunday and I love the guy. But you have to play under control at times. There's a time and place for naked aggression. You gotta play smart. Ware is hurt. That neck injury has slowed him down. He's not the same guy although he's not hurting us. He's just not dominant.

We have recognizable problems that can be addressed with a tincture of time along with just giving the young guys playing time and understanding they have to grow. Very few players come into this league and play at a consistently outstanding fashion.

And Romo will be fine. His confidence looks shaky and all the problems is really a lot for him to try to handle at once. But it'll get better when the supporting cast gets better and he gets some good games under his belt.

This is a fairly talented team with a few exceptions. It has a couple of relatively weak spots here and there but they should improve.

Parcells was right about a lot of things but one saying really does ring true. Coaches coach and players play. You can get a coach to beat you with hissin then beat you with yours playing against hissin. But only if the talent level is about equal. So coaching does matter but it's players playing and making plays that wins games. This team has enough talent to compete but it will take some time for some areas to catch up with other areas on the team.

Not being a homer just being realistic and a little optimistic. If it fits, come down from the ledge. It's too early to commit sepaku, give up. and jump off the bridge.
 

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tunahelper;2992515 said:
When a player is hurting your team or unit a coach must do something about it. While the play calling was sloppy I think Garrett was following the advise Jimmy gave about a conservative gameplan, but Romo was unable to execute his throws.
I think we should have pulled Romo yesterday and put in Kitna. Romo's lack of confidence showed and I think maybe he needs to sit and watch. Kitna is not better than Romo, but he may spark an offense and attack the field, instead of being hesistant and stalling drives time after time. In the end Romo may be able come back from a benching and execute.

Hey, let's be bold and start McGee!!!

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Maikeru-sama;2995166 said:
WHy on earth would you bench a quarterback that is 2-2, whose only losses are against undefeated teams. If a change is made, it needs to be at head coach or asst. Head coach.

That won't happen til next season, bub.
 

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elcocinero;2995165 said:
By high draft pick, do you mean around the 18-20 range, because 8-8 or 9-7 will be the worst this team does.

not if the "O" keeps this up.
 

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I don't think it would hurt to try. I already said I feel more comfortable with Kitna in the game.
 

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DallasDomination;2995162 said:
I want to see what kitna can do too...I doubt He plays as bad as romo. And all these guys will disagree but Kitna never played with a decent team.

But again I'm affraid of what something like that will do to Romos confidence...last thing we need is lose our starting QB to a mental breakdown.

I can understand that, I truly believe Romo just needs a better QB Coach and a "O" coordinator to put him in the position to win games.

Since those guys won't be here in til next year, Romo is going to need to get his head out of his ........ and make more accurate passes and learn to look to his left sometimes.

Romo friendly ....CHILD PLEASE!
 

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stilltheguru;2995359 said:
I don't think it would hurt to try. I already said I feel more comfortable with Kitna in the game.

This is what troubles me about the offense. The majority of the offseason was about getting Romo and the WR's on the same page (since T.O. is gone). The 1st game looked good then after that the passing game when to crap. Romo hasn't thrown a TD to a reciever not named Witten since the first game against the Bucs.

I like to see kitna play because I know he can make RW#11 look like an $45mil dollar WR.
 

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Tunahelper, if I'm interpreting your post right, you're not suggesting for a fulltime switch but more of a quick yank that serves as a kick in the rear for Romo, no?

Obviously, I'm against pulling Romo permanently. Kitna offers us nothing and it's a silly notion. But I honestly don't know how I feel about doing it as a motivational ploy if he's self-destructing on a certain Sunday. On one hand, I like it; no player is above the team and MAYBE it's that kind of tough love Romo needs to get back on track. On the other hand, we could lose him entirely. Dunno.
 

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MWILL;2995399 said:
This is what troubles me about the offense. The majority of the offseason was about getting Romo and the WR's on the same page (since T.O. is gone). The 1st game looked good then after that the passing game when to crap. Romo hasn't thrown a TD to a reciever not named Witten since the first game against the Bucs.

I like to see kitna play because I know he can make RW#11 look like an $45mil dollar WR.

It seems comical that Favre can spend a month in Minnesota and put up back-to-back magical outings, yet Romo can spend years with guys like Austin and still not be on the same page.

Well, comical in a sad, depressing sense.
 

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DallasDomination;2995162 said:
I want to see what kitna can do too...I doubt He plays as bad as romo. And all these guys will disagree but Kitna never played with a decent team.

All these guys would say something like that for good reason. I seem to remember him being on a decent seattle playoff team. That team was roughly as good as we are, and I seem to remember him being on a Cincinnati team that was decent with him and actually turned out to be pretty damn talented once Palmer got his shot and then it went all Dallas cowboys implosion on them...Hmmm

I forgot that we are actually the 72' dolphins in disguise.
 

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Is this a joke thread???

Pull Romo for freaking Kitna. You mean the same Kitna that threw 20 picks his last year as a starter???

If we do that and Romo has a mental breakdown, what do we do for a QB considering Kitna is like 50 yrs old??? Anybody thought of what we do in that situation??? Do we then go with McGee who is as raw as sushi???

I guess we could draft Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy with that top 5 pick we are going to have if we bench Romo.:rolleyes:
 

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Beast_from_East;2995550 said:
Is this a joke thread???

Pull Romo for freaking Kitna. You mean the same Kitna that threw 20 picks his last year as a starter???

If we do that and Romo has a mental breakdown, what do we do for a QB considering Kitna is like 50 yrs old??? Anybody thought of what we do in that situation??? Do we then go with McGee who is as raw as sushi???

I guess we could draft Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy with that top 5 pick we are going to have if we bench Romo.:rolleyes:

I thought it was a joke thread too and it seems like it kinda started that way, but if you read through I guess not?
 

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RainMan;2995408 said:
Tunahelper, if I'm interpreting your post right, you're not suggesting for a fulltime switch but more of a quick yank that serves as a kick in the rear for Romo, no?

Obviously, I'm against pulling Romo permanently. Kitna offers us nothing and it's a silly notion. But I honestly don't know how I feel about doing it as a motivational ploy if he's self-destructing on a certain Sunday. On one hand, I like it; no player is above the team and MAYBE it's that kind of tough love Romo needs to get back on track. On the other hand, we could lose him entirely. Dunno.

Exactly! I was mainly concerned with Sunday. He was playing with no confidence and I feel as if a change may have helped move the ball. Romo is playing tenatively and he is afraid to make tough throws in fear of the int.
 
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