Knee Defender interrupts Flight

[Kevinicus]

I would lump this in with the overweight argument honestly. Don't make your problems the problem of the other passengers. If the person is too tall and feel that they cannot fit, then they need to bump to first class seat or buy the seat in front of them instead of inconveniencing other people who paid money for their seats.

For the record, I'm a shade under 6'2" and fly about once per month, sometimes twice. I have never once had an issue with the seat in front of me reclining.

This works both ways. The person in front is not more entitled to the space than the person in back. If anything, I would say the person in back is more entitled to the space as it is in their row. The person in front can just spring for first class if they want to recline instead of inconveniencing someone else who paid money for their seats.

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

I'm just happy to be sitting on a chair in the freaking sky. I don't normally recline my seat out of courtesy, but if I wanted to and discovered the guy behind had installed these things...we'd be making an emergency landing in Omaha so he could have them surgically removed from his rectum. I paid for my seat and will decide what I do with it, not you.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

This works both ways. The person in front is not more entitled to the space than the person in back. If anything, I would say the person in back is more entitled to the space as it is in their row. The person in front can just spring for first class if they want to recline instead of inconveniencing someone else who paid money for their seats.

I disagree. If the person in back was allotted the reclining space, then the airlines would have gotten rid of the ability to recline years ago. Instead, most of them (including this airline) have banned the Knee Defender.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I would lump this in with the overweight argument honestly. Don't make your problems the problem of the other passengers. If the person is too tall and feel that they cannot fit, then they need to bump to first class seat or buy the seat in front of them instead of inconveniencing other people who paid money for their seats.

For the record, I'm a shade under 6'2" and fly about once per month, sometimes twice. I have never once had an issue with the seat in front of me reclining.

you're very fortunate. I have.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

The real problem is the airlines themselves. They design these planes so you receive the minimum space so they can fit in a few more rows and make more money. Many have to fly so they have no choice but to put up with it.

HECK YEH!

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

It's our own fault, we let them do it to us. We allowed them to strip search us at airports, then charge us to check luggage, not feed us, charge us for priority boarding etc Some get around it by shoving pianos in the overhead bin but whatever they do, we accept.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I'm just happy to be sitting on a chair in the freaking sky. I don't normally recline my seat out of courtesy, but if I wanted to and discovered the guy behind had installed these things...we'd be making an emergency landing in Omaha so he could have them surgically removed from his rectum. I paid for my seat and will decide what I do with it, not you.

lol

 

[Kevinicus]

I disagree. If the person in back was allotted the reclining space, then the airlines would have gotten rid of the ability to recline years ago. Instead, most of them (including this airline) have banned the Knee Defender.

The "recline space" ends when the seat reaches another object, that includes another person.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

The "recline space" ends when the seat reaches another object, that includes another person.

Totally agree, but it was not the case in this instance. The guy had even upgraded to "economy plus" so he had an extra four extra inches of space.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Totally agree, but it was not the case in this instance. The guy had even upgraded to "economy plus" so he had an extra four extra inches of space.

 

[Jammer]

I disagree. If the person in back was allotted the reclining space, then the airlines would have gotten rid of the ability to recline years ago. Instead, most of them (including this airline) have banned the Knee Defender.

What about the guy who has a seat that doesn't recline (exit row, seats against the back wall...)?

 

[Phoenix]

What about the guy who has a seat that doesn't recline (exit row, seats against the back wall...)?

ha ha I was just thinking about those seats at the very back of the plane, by the lavatories, that don't recline at all. Just as the airlines charge extra for the "premium" seats that give the 4 inches extra space, and charge extra for exit row seats usually, I'll bet they charge extra for the back seats that don't recline whatsoever: "Since you don't have to worry about anyone complaining in back of you, we'll charge you extra".... boggle...

 

[TheCount]

Totally agree, but it was not the case in this instance. The guy had even upgraded to "economy plus" so he had an extra four extra inches of space.

Yeah, that's what a lot of people are missing in this story. Both passengers had extra legroom seats. If I pay extra for an extra leg room seat, I expect to be able to recline even if I don't actually do so. Even worse, the guy with the knee defender was on his laptop, that's why he didn't want to let the woman recline.

 

[Derekmtl85]

Sorry that genetics didn't work out for them.
An overweight person should required to buy an additional seat.
Anothers height challengedness really isn't my problem.
The 5 foot guy can't play for the NBA, that ain't my problem either.
Sometimes a personal problem is exactly that, your PERSONAL problem

Yeah, i'm sure they think the same about your right to recline. It's not his problem, it's yours. Deal with it.

 

[theogt]

These should be banned. The seats recline by intentional design. If someone pays for a seat, they should be able to use it the way they want as designed. If someone cares enough to reduce their own comfort to increase someone else's, then so be it. But they should not be forced to, particularly when that other person should go into the situation knowing the seats are reclinable. If you want more room, pay for the first class ticket, or ride a bus.

 

[theogt]

This works both ways. The person in front is not more entitled to the space than the person in back. If anything, I would say the person in back is more entitled to the space as it is in their row. The person in front can just spring for first class if they want to recline instead of inconveniencing someone else who paid money for their seats.

What's your basis for drawing this arbitrary line at which a passenger's acquired space begins and ends? Who's to say that the second row passenger's space begins where the first row passenger's reclining ends?

 

[BigStar]

Take it out of the country and letum have the death match already, All that crawling on the ground could be avoided and get back to "real" fighting I tune out once they hit the floor...if you could fight you wouldn't' resort to that, just my opinion. I've never seen real fights resort to that unless they couldn't' box

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

These should be banned. The seats recline by intentional design. If someone pays for a seat, they should be able to use it the way they want as designed. If someone cares enough to reduce their own comfort to increase someone else's, then so be it. But they should not be forced to, particularly when that other person should go into the situation knowing the seats are reclinable. If you want more room, pay for the first class ticket, or ride a bus.

where's the "not like" button

 

[theogt]

where's the "not like" button

Right next to the "do not recline" button.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Right next to the "do not recline" button.

haha... good one!
I'm still kicking the bejesus out of your chair if you're in front of me!