Knowledgeable Opinions Needed - 2 Round Mock

RightHandOfJerry

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Have a wager for most picks correct on draft day. Don't have time to watch game tape or look at every team need so give me some arguments why some of these picks are awful. Thanks.



Kansas City - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

Jacksonville - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon

Oakland- Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida

Philadelphia- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

Detroit -Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama

Cleveland- Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU

Arizona -Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama

Buffalo -Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia

New York Jets -Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU

Tennessee -Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carol

San Diego -Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia

Miami -Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma

New York Jets (from Tampa Bay) - D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston

Carolina - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri

New Orleans -Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas

St. Louis -Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia

Pittsburgh -Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama

Dallas - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

New York Giants - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State

Chicago -Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

Cincinnati - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama

St. Louis (from Washington) - Matt Elam, FS, Florida

Minnesota - Matt Barkley, QB, USC

Indianapolis - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State

Minnesota (from Seattle) - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tenne

Green Bay - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

Houston - Sylvester Williams, DT, North Car

Denver - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA

New England - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee

Atlanta - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washin

San Francisco - Eric Reid,FS, LSU

Baltimore - Kevin Minter,ILB, LSU




Jacksonville - Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse

San Francisco (from Kansas City) - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M

Philadelphia - Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State

Detroit - Kyle Long,OG, Oregon

Cincinnati (from Oakland - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU

Arizona - Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia

New York Jets - Keenan Allen, WR, California

Tennessee - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson

Buffalo - Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State

Miami - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

Tampa Bay - Robert Woods, WR, USC

Carolina - Jonathan Cyprien, FS, Florida Int

San Diego - Larry Warford,, OG, Kentucky

St. Louis - Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin

Dallas - Brian Schwenke, C, California

Pittsburgh - Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi S

New York Giants - Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State

Chicago - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse

Washington - Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State

Minnesota - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

Cincinnati - Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State

Miami (from Indianapolis) - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State

Green Bay - Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU

Seattle - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas

Houston -Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Te

Denver - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State

New England - D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Caroli

Atlanta - William Gholston, DE, Michigan St

San Francisco - Bennie Logan, DT, LSU

Baltimore - Terrance Williams,, WR, Baylor

























 

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Right off the top I'd say Star Lotulelei will be taken about 8-10 spots earlier...
 

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Star won't be there and I don't see us taking a C in the 2nd round, they are going to roll with what is on the roster IMO.
 

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RightHandOfJerry;5054583 said:
Have a wager for most picks correct on draft day. Don't have time to watch game tape or look at every team need so give me some arguments why some of these picks are awful. Thanks.
I'll give you some general input that might help with your bet.

FYI - It would be helpful if you numbered each pick.

I didn't see RB Franklin or OT Armstead in the 2nd round.

Kansas City - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

Jacksonville - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon

Oakland- Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida

Philadelphia- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

Detroit -Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama

Cleveland- Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU

Arizona -Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
Don't bet on him going this early and definitely not before Lane Johnson.

Buffalo -Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia

New York Jets -Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU

Tennessee -Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carol
The Titans just signed 2 OGs in Free Agency.

San Diego -Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
Maybe, but he has some issues. He has a potential long term career threatening medical condition, the same condition that ended Michael Irvin's career. Also, he ran a really terrible forty at his Pro Day.

Miami -Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
Doubtful to make it to this pick.

New York Jets (from Tampa Bay) - D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
Highly unlikely. Move him to the twenties.

Carolina - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri

New Orleans -Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas

St. Louis -Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia

Pittsburgh -Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
Doubtful. More likely a 2nd rounder.

Dallas - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
Highly doubtful to fall this far.

New York Giants - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State

Chicago -Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
Probably falls further due to position value, less than ideal measureables and some minor character issues.

Cincinnati - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
Good fit here if they don't resign their RT.

St. Louis (from Washington) - Matt Elam, FS, Florida
Too early.

Minnesota - Matt Barkley, QB, USC
I don't really even try to project QBs.

Indianapolis - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State

Minnesota (from Seattle) - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
Maybe, but I think he goes earlier.

Green Bay - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

Houston - Sylvester Williams, DT, North Car

Denver - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA

New England - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee

Atlanta - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washin

San Francisco - Eric Reid,FS, LSU

Baltimore - Kevin Minter,ILB, LSU

Jacksonville - Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
This player might be a media creation. He has minimal anchor strength and very short arms (31.5"). Those are not generally characteristics that get you drafted in the 2nd round.

San Francisco (from Kansas City) - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M

Philadelphia - Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State

Detroit - Kyle Long,OG, Oregon
I think the draft media is overrating his player due to being Howie's son.

Cincinnati (from Oakland - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
Probably early, despite measureables.

Arizona - Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
Would have been a 1st rounder if not for character issues.

New York Jets - Keenan Allen, WR, California

Tennessee - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson

Buffalo - Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State

Miami - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

Tampa Bay - Robert Woods, WR, USC

Carolina - Jonathan Cyprien, FS, Florida Int

San Diego - Larry Warford,, OG, Kentucky

St. Louis - Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin

Dallas - Brian Schwenke, C, California
I wouldn't be surprised with this pick. He is rated a little lower, but is a very good player, IMO. He has much better anchor strength than Pugh, can play Center or Guard and has more experience as an inside player than Pugh.

Pittsburgh - Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi S

New York Giants - Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State

Chicago - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
Could end up in the 1st round. Reports are that Russ Lande (NFP), Greg Cosell (NFL films) and John Gruden have him rated as the best QB in this draft.

Washington - Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State

Minnesota - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

Cincinnati - Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State

Miami (from Indianapolis) - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State

Green Bay - Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
Will not happen. He is not getting drafted in the 2nd round and definitely not by Green Bay. It's doubtful that he gets drafted after admitting that he stopped counting after 10 failed drug tests.

Seattle - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas

Houston -Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Te

Denver - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State

New England - D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Caroli

Atlanta - William Gholston, DE, Michigan St
Too early. He is doubtful to get picked in the 3rd and definitely not in the 2nd.

San Francisco - Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
Probably a 3rd rounder.

Baltimore - Terrance Williams,, WR, Baylor
















 

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Does it matter where they are picked?
Is it just number of players taken?
 

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RightHandOfJerry;5054646 said:
Thanks for the breakdown xwalker. Its either team or number picked. No trades.

Lots of good stuff from xwalker....his take is 25%...and I'm his agent:p:

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Must add Jamar Taylor. He could go as early as late 1st round
 

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Good points by Xwalker

First Floyd might be sliding some, not a lot.

DJ Hayden in the 1st, not happening

I think Cyprien goes a little higher in the 2nd

Lacy in the 1st, seriously doubt it.

There is absolutely no way Chargers pass on L.Johnson, none-0

Can't see Ball in the 2nd, I think Benard/Frankin or even someone like Ellington or Michael will go there.

Gholston is probably a 4th rounder.

Bell in the 2nd? Highly doubtful, to me he is a 4th rounder, but almost everyone says 3rd.

I think Carradine will be a 1st rounder.

Logan a bit too high, just some.

Not sure on Swearinger I think P.Thomas should be before him, should.

Nassib is low, I think he might even be a bottom of 1st to someone like Minny or even Broncos.


Not sure on R.Woods that high, maybe put in Hunter instead.

Oh and Honey Badger to me is a 3rd WITHOUT character concerns. You can figure that one.
 

RightHandOfJerry

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Thanks guys, by the way it must not be formatted great because Carradine, Taylor and Hunter are all in there.
 
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