Kouandjio gets chance to work out at Alabama’s second pro day

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Posted: April 11th, 2014 | Gil Brandt | Tags: Adrian Hubbard, Alabama, Anthony Steed, C.J. Mosley, Cyrus Kouandjio, Ed Stinson, Vinnie Sunseri

Alabama held its second pro-day workout on April 8 and it was attended by 10 NFL teams, including Indianapolis Colts defensive coordinator Greg Manusky, San Diego Chargers offensive line coach Joe D’Alessandris and a defensive line coach from the Detroit Lions.

Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (6-foot-7, 321 pounds) — Kouandjio ran the 40-yard dash in 5.42 and 5.53 seconds. He had a 31-inch vertical jump and 8-foot-10 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.82 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.93 seconds. He performed 25 lifts of 225 pounds on the bench press, but was only given credit for 21 of those reps because he arched his back. Kouandjio had not missed any practice time or games due to injuries, but was withheld from workouts at the NFL Scouting Combine after failing physicals with several teams. At Alabama’s second pro day, Kouandjio got his chance to work out and was impressive. He showed good hand placement. He, however, needs to work on his foot movement to get better. He will not need to go back to Indianapolis for a medical re-check.

Adrian Hubbard, LB (6-6, 257) — Hubbard only ran the short shuttle at the pro day, doing so in 4.52 seconds. He also did position drills.

C.J. Mosley, LB (6-2, 234) — Mosley only did the bench press, performing 15 lifts. He also participated in Alabama’s previous pro day.

Ed Stinson, DE (6-3, 288) — Stinson ran the 40 in 5.00 and 4.99 seconds. He had a 28-inch vertical jump and 8-foot-7 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.75 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.66 seconds. He also performed 27 strength lifts. He had an on-field workout conducted by the Lions’ defensive line coach.

Anthony Steed, G (6-3 5/8, 310) — Steed ran the 40 in 5.37 and 5.40 seconds. He had a 25-inch vertical jump and 8-10 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.72 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.81 seconds. Steed will be going back to Indianapolis for a medical re-check.

Vinnie Sunseri, SS (5-11, 209) — Sunseri ran the 40 in 4.53 and 4.52 seconds. He did so some field work and looked to have very good ball skills. Sunseri had surgery on his left ACL in October and is returning to form.

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Wow!!! all those workouts are poop.....:eek:

I've been saying it for years....Alabama athletes are over rated. And those pro day #'s just confirm what I've been saying.

Cyrus Kouandjio......how many more chances does the guy need to prove he is worthy?
 

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Sunseri is a Matt Johnson/Jeff Heath clone. Can hit and tackle, but has questionable ball skills.
 

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at this point I am shazier >>>> mosley

If you go by workout #'s sure, but I don't see how you could possibly watch those 2 play and come up with that conclusion. Mosley is a much more complete LB and is a much smarter football player.
 

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I watch more big ten football than SEC, and shazier always showed up when I watched. I was impressed with his tackles on Melvin Gordon, who to me looks like Jamaal Charles but better...

last two years shazier had 259 total tackles, 40.5 tackles for loss and 12 sacks...

Mosley had 215 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, and 4 sacks...

now, I get that there is somewhat of a drop off in talent level from the big10 to sec, but its not that much.

So I guess that's another possible way I could come to that conclusion...

I mean the guy flew all over the field, maybe I should be asking you how you watched both players and came away less impressed with shazier...
 

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If you go by workout #'s sure, but I don't see how you could possibly watch those 2 play and come up with that conclusion. Mosley is a much more complete LB and is a much smarter football player.

I'll say it right now....Mosely was a good college player. But watch him bust on the next level. Why? IMO I think he is as big as he is going to get....And he isn't that strong. 15 reps @ 225 is almost laughable. Either he hasn't spent much time in the weight room and just got by his natural ability...Or he has peaked already- Which is it?

Either way....those are 2 red flags.....And he should be avoided like the plague
 

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I watch more big ten football than SEC, and shazier always showed up when I watched. I was impressed with his tackles on Melvin Gordon, who to me looks like Jamaal Charles but better...

last two years shazier had 259 total tackles, 40.5 tackles for loss and 12 sacks...

Mosley had 215 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, and 4 sacks...

now, I get that there is somewhat of a drop off in talent level from the big10 to sec, but its not that much.

So I guess that's another possible way I could come to that conclusion...

I mean the guy flew all over the field, maybe I should be asking you how you watched both players and came away less impressed with shazier...

There's a lot more to playing linebacker than chasing and tackling. Especially the WIL spot that either Shazier or Mosley would start. They would be asked to play a lot of coverage and that's not shazier's strength despite the athleticism. Shazier also doesn't disengage from blocks nearly as well as Mosley. He struggles in traffic.

This is yet another case of people overreacting to off-season workout #'s
 

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deeply suspicious of Shazier and Mosely

both were surrounded by a lot of talent.

Reminds me of AJ Hawk and Barbie

they looked great in college too
 

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There's a lot more to playing linebacker than chasing and tackling. Especially the WIL spot that either Shazier or Mosley would start. They would be asked to play a lot of coverage and that's not shazier's strength despite the athleticism. Shazier also doesn't disengage from blocks nearly as well as Mosley. He struggles in traffic.

This is yet another case of people overreacting to off-season workout #'s

see ball get ball. Keep it simple...stupid.

anyway, that very odd comment aside, once again I watch Big ten football, no 'overreaction here'. Shazier might have a harder time getting off blocks but all lbs do... they are 70 lbs lighter than the lineman. Shazier is good at getting small and going around, not through, while still taking a good angle.

I mean....40.5 tackles for loss in two years...hes not exactly getting stonewalled at the point of attack every play...

He may not be known for his coverage, but he has made plays and shows the athleticism and ability to cover at the next level.
 

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Not big on Kouandjio, might end up being a decent RT in the league, but his upside is pretty limited.

I like Shazier, but if Telvin Smith is 230lbs instead of 218lbs, he's the best lb of the bunch. Mosley is a late first/second rounder in my opinion..

Kevin Norwood is going to be a steal if he's taken anything fifth round and on. Still think he's vastly underrated-super kid who does everything well, good size and better than average speed.

I have real mixed feelings on McCarron, think some people are nit picking because of where he played and the talent surrounding him. Inside 15 yards, the guy is as accurate as it gets and love his command of the huddle, on the other hand he's a little shaky on the deep ball and feet get a little nervous when faced with pressure.
 

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see ball get ball. Keep it simple...stupid.

anyway, that very odd comment aside, once again I watch Big ten football, no 'overreaction here'. Shazier might have a harder time getting off blocks but all lbs do... they are 70 lbs lighter than the lineman. Shazier is good at getting small and going around, not through, while still taking a good angle.

I mean....40.5 tackles for loss in two years...hes not exactly getting stonewalled at the point of attack every play...

He may not be known for his coverage, but he has made plays and shows the athleticism and ability to cover at the next level.

Yeah....I don't think you quite understand how an NFL defense works so I'm just going to end this conversation. By your standards Bruce Carter would be the best LB in the league.
 

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Yeah....I don't think you quite understand how an NFL defense works so I'm just going to end this conversation. By your standards Bruce Carter would be the best LB in the league.

ya, you were already backing out of the argument after my first response. its not fun to debate with a person that cant stay on topic. My lb standards were never mentioned, but you keep working on that reading comprehension.

espn.com

"Yeah, Shazier's a tremendous athlete who can do everything you want.
That includes dropping back in pass coverage, Kiper affirmed. "

nfl.com

Bottom Line
The Big Ten's leading tackler, Shazier flies around the field and his unique athletic ability stands out. Offers a tremendous combination of speed, tackling and coverage skills to become a playmaker


but...idk or understand defense in the NFL. I should realize that linebackers aren't there just to tackle. They may have to drop in coverage... but less than a cornerback...or maybe idk..so confusing. what does a linebacker doooooooooooooooo?
 

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actually that appeared to be Carter's problem last year. He did not know what to do
 
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