Kubiak watch

[DallasGirl50]

I'm sure Coach Kubiak would rather work in Denver than Dallas.

Classy guy and I wouldn't mind him on the staff but I'm more concerned about the head coach and who that will be than assistants.

I was so sure it'd be Jason and now I'm thinking Jerry will hire somebody else.

 

[Stautner]

there isnt a learning curve that you think there is.......Its not all that different to coach for NFL coaches........To think one of the best Def players ever, and a man that has been coaching in the NFL for a few years would require a 'learning curve" is kind of silly.

No its not. The learning curve may not be as dramatic as some think, but there is a learning curve nonetheless.

That said, I wouldn't rule Singletary out based on that. I don't know that he is the man for the job, just as I doubt others do. I do know I love his hard nosed attitude, and I think that, more than X's and O's or coaching skills is what causes most of the pro Singletary people to want him. The truth is we really don't know much about his X's & O's ability.

 

[yentl911]

MS might not have won in SF. The great Vince Lomardi would not have won with the clown locker they have for a team.

The number one player on any NFL team is the QB and they don't have one.

The decent players on the team respect MS and what he brings to the table.

Sorry, but our team needs a swift kick in the ***.

 

[warrior43]

how about this combination
HC Garrett
OC Tony Sparano
DC John Fox

I dont want fox as DC but i just see Jerry going for him.

 

[ZeroClub]

He loses again.

His dysfunctional team sqanders (again) a lead and losses.

I hope that when Kubiak is fired he comes to papa Jerra in Dallas.

Jason Garrett as HC
Kubiak as OC
Singletary as DC

What a great offseason that would be.

The plus side of those coordinators is that if Jerry fires Garrett during next or the following season, Jerry would have on his staff two viable interim head coaches (who could "maintain continuity," which is supposed to be a good thing).

I'm not a Singletary fan, though.

 

[jswalker1981]

Yeah that really worked out well in San Fran. Most or all of the players pretty much tuned that out. That old school, kick butt nonsense doesn't work very much in the NFL. You need a coach that has good assistants, stays in his lane and instills discipline and when I say discipline that doesn't mean getting in a player's face and yelling in front of cameras. That means being accountable and focused for your job as a player on and off the field. You don't have to kick butt to do that.

I doubt Kubiak comes here, he probably goes back to Denver. And Singletary needs to go back to being a LB coach.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Bates was not a high quality starting safety by any stretch

Correctamundo


but he was an animal in nickle packages and special teams.

Sadly, the HOF has no niche for specialized play and special teams.

In my book, still, overrated.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yeah that really worked out well in San Fran. Most or all of the players pretty much tuned that out.

Our players can relate to that, can't they? Yet, Wade, the overrated coach, got his chance. Got his piece of the pie.
I guess Wade knew people in high places and Singletary has yet to master the old boys' fraternity in the NFL.

I just think many are holding Singletary to a higher standard that lesser coaches never have to navigate.

 

[Stautner]

In my book, still, overrated.

I don't know who you think is rating Bates so highly or on what criteria, but I don't think anyone rates him highly on his skills as a safety, just as no on had Steve Tasker rated high on his skills as a WR. In both cases though they were real impact players on special teams, and Bates was a very real impact player in nickle packages. Whether there is a HOf niche for that kind of role is irrelevent. I don't know of anyone making a push for Bates for HOF, so that really doesn't come into play when talking about whether he his overrated.

 

[Doomsday]

Most Bronco fans I know here in Denver want Kubiac to be their next head coach.

 

[28 Joker]

This isn't the guy to watch.

That guy is in Cleveland, imo.

One Eric Mangini....

If Jerry has any interest in Jon Gruden, he will not be able to act like a girl and think about it for ever. He's going to have to act and make a choice, because that is probably who Mike Holmgren wants, too.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I don't know who you think is rating Bates so highly or on what criteria, but I don't think anyone rates him highly on his skills as a safety, just as no on had Steve Tasker rated high on his skills as a WR. In both cases though they were real impact players on special teams, and Bates was a very real impact player in nickle packages. Whether there is a HOf niche for that kind of role is irrelevent. I don't know of anyone making a push for Bates for HOF, so that really doesn't come into play when talking about whether he his overrated.

Cowboys fans, in general, speak of him in glowing terms. IMHO, Bates iss one of the most overrated Cowboys in history IMHO.
As for the HOF niche, I guess my facetiousness was lost on you. And, fortunately, Bates was not so overrated that anyone would make a HOF push for him. Again, subtlety got the best of you.

 

[Stautner]

Cowboys fans, in general, speak of him in glowing terms. IMHO, Bates iss one of the most overrated Cowboys in history IMHO.
As for the HOF niche, I guess my facetiousness was lost on you. And, fortunately, Bates was not so overrated that anyone would make a HOF push for him. Again, subtlety got the best of you.

I understood the facetiousness, and I also understood the ridiculousness. It simply had no place in a rational discussion.

And so what if they speak of him in glowing terms? In the context of his cotributions it's deserved. They do the same for Moose, who was a one dimensional blocking fullback. Who says our Cowboy heroes have to be well rounded studs in all aspects of the game? Who says they can't be specialists who bring something to the team that that other teams simply don't have? Bringing a specialty skill to the table, and doing it better than anyone else in the league, and at the same time bringing an aura of toughness and hustle to the team, is pretty laudable if you ask me.

Add the fact that Bates was so highly regarded for these specialty skills that the team kept him for 14 years makes it even more laudable and makes it more understandable why fans love him. Anyone who recalls
Bates making seemingly every coverage tackle, and who remember him pressuring QB's and blanketing TE's on 3rd downs knows what I am talking about.

By the way, do you know what Bates and Moose have in common? They were both players with limits to their talents but who excelled so much at the talents they did bring that the Pro-Bowl added positions for them. Bates was the reason the Pro-Bowl added a special teams slot, and Moose was the reason they added a FB slot. They had to do something pretty special for that to happen.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Kubiak will be the next head coach in Denver...

 

[Dodger]

...but athletes like Singletary know that the NFL, like corporate America, is hard to get into because of the good old boy mentality.


Maybe that is why the NFL is like 75% black when it comes to players and 15% when it comes to coaching and 0% when it comes to ownership.

Right. No one wants Singletary because he's black. Nevermind his 18-22 record as head coach, and certainly not because of the way he handled the press, his questionable in-game coaching decisions, the horrible relationships he had with his QBs, and his apparent growing need to show everyone who was in charge.

Nope, it's the racist good old boys keeping him down...

 

[Doomsday]

Right. No one wants Singletary because he's black. Nevermind his 18-22 record as head coach, and certainly not because of the way he handled the press, his questionable in-game coaching decisions, the horrible relationships he had with his QBs, and his apparent growing need to show everyone who was in charge.

Nope, it's the racist good old boys keeping him down...

Well said, he had a ton of supporters 2 years ago

 

[Doomsday101]

Kubiak will be the next head coach in Denver...

Very well could be. He has good relation in Denver.