Lack of Screens

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Its not that we don't have the athletes on the Oline. Its that its really not in our playbook. Our playbook, it seems is from the 90s. We never ran screens during that era as well.

There is nothing special about our playbook. There are no man in motion, no quick slants, no dig routes, no double moves, no play action, no delay draws, no nothing. Its just a basic offense which takes too long to develop thus you have Romo sitting back in the pocket for almost an eternity.

Throw away the playbook and start practicing all those plays that you mentioned such as screens. Our offense is too easy to defend. Its too simple. Yet we make it complicated with having too many audibles and too many receivers going into different direction.

The best way to fix our offense is to go back into when Garrrett was NOT THE OC and look up the top plays that worked. Play action, TO going in motion, crossing routes, and even our bread and butter run play, the delay draw. Take those plays and implement into our playbook. WE need to be creative. Garrett needs to be creative and innovative. Get rid of our playbook and start from scratch.
 

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From what I have watched in the past few years we barely run alot of RB screens.. We attempt to keep running WR bubble screens and such with no success. Last week we finally ran a FEW screens and they seemed to work. I have been wondering about this for a while, I know we don't have a Sproles type of player ( Dunbar is the closest we have) but I think the screen game would do wonders for our offense.

Our O-line is such a weakness on the team, and we have trouble facing teams with interior rushers. Would make sense for us to use screens more often... right?

Like when we played the obvious run on first down, run on second down against a stacked front against the lions that cost us a play each drive. Could of easily turned those into a few screens!

I hope this is implemented vs the Vikings, or we could struggle offensively against their interior.

I wonder why we don't try more screens. Murray and Randle both have good hands.
 

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They ran 2 screens against the Lions and both were effective.

They proved:

1. It is in the playbook.

2. They can execute it.
 

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Its not that we don't have the athletes on the Oline. Its that its really not in our playbook. Our playbook, it seems is from the 90s. We never ran screens during that era as well.

There is nothing special about our playbook. There are no man in motion, no quick slants, no dig routes, no double moves, no play action, no delay draws, no nothing. Its just a basic offense which takes too long to develop thus you have Romo sitting back in the pocket for almost an eternity.

Throw away the playbook and start practicing all those plays that you mentioned such as screens. Our offense is too easy to defend. Its too simple. Yet we make it complicated with having too many audibles and too many receivers going into different direction.

The best way to fix our offense is to go back into when Garrrett was NOT THE OC and look up the top plays that worked. Play action, TO going in motion, crossing routes, and even our bread and butter run play, the delay draw. Take those plays and implement into our playbook. WE need to be creative. Garrett needs to be creative and innovative. Get rid of our playbook and start from scratch.

The lack of the delay draw is mindblowing. When you are passing from shotgun that often, the delay draw should be a staple play.
 

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The lack of the delay draw is mindblowing. When you are passing from shotgun that often, the delay draw should be a staple play.

Yet we have a reverse run play which we give the ball to the receiver which we run often with minimal success. Its totally mindblowing.
 

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Tanner wasn't bright enough to just run the play as designed and instead bounced it outside resulting in a hold by Smith. He also ran the wrong route against the Eagles resulting in an interception. I don't think he is capable of running screen plays. There is a reason he was undrafted and is the 4th string RB. He can do some things that help the team, but as with most 4th string guys he can't be trusted with more than a handful of plays.
 

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Tanner wasn't bright enough to just run the play as designed and instead bounced it outside resulting in a hold by Smith. He also ran the wrong route against the Eagles resulting in an interception. I don't think he is capable of running screen plays. There is a reason he was undrafted and is the 4th string RB. He can do some things that help the team, but as with most 4th string guys he can't be trusted with more than a handful of plays.

As a coach you have to determine that especially during the waning moments of a game. I would be thinking, "this guy has made a blunder last game which caused and INT. Do I want to give him the ball during this the waning moments of the game?" Answer would be NO. A smart coach would not give him the ball or would make it absolutely SURE TO HIM not to get cute. Sometimes, a little bit of communication to your players what you want done can go a long way towards success. By judging from what happened, I going to guess that there was NO COMMUNICATION involved between the coach and the player. Thus you get the results that you saw in that game.

That type of communication happens all the time with a good coach and his players. I don't think it happened during that situation between the coach and Tanner.
 

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Has Dallas ever been a team that runs the screen well or often?
 

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They ran 2 screens against the Lions and both were effective.

They proved:

1. It is in the playbook.

2. They can execute it.

3. Since it was effective, we won't see it again until next year.
 

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I think we should use Dunbar a little more and see how he does during the regular season. As for the lack of screens.. I don't get it been wondering that for years.
 

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They ran 2 screens against the Lions and both were effective.

They proved:

1. It is in the playbook.

2. They can execute it.

Agreed. I think it should be used more often. Would at least give our offense some chocolate to go with our vanilla offense.
 

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As a coach you have to determine that especially during the waning moments of a game. I would be thinking, "this guy has made a blunder last game which caused and INT. Do I want to give him the ball during this the waning moments of the game?" Answer would be NO. A smart coach would not give him the ball or would make it absolutely SURE TO HIM not to get cute. Sometimes, a little bit of communication to your players what you want done can go a long way towards success. By judging from what happened, I going to guess that there was NO COMMUNICATION involved between the coach and the player. Thus you get the results that you saw in that game.

That type of communication happens all the time with a good coach and his players. I don't think it happened during that situation between the coach and Tanner.

Like how Denver deactivated Hillman the week after his game ending fumble. They didn't even allow him in the game the following week. We don't do that unfortunately. Anyone remember Richie Anderson as FB? He ran screens well for his 2 seasons as FB..

For how good Romo is, I bet he is more than capable of running a few. I do think we will have some trouble early if we don't spread the Vikings D out. For some whatever reason we struggle and do sloppy interior runs over and over until we punt against teams with a large interior line.
 

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Its a coaching choice to not run screens nor draws. They like the percentages of Tony in the shotgun getting a play done and I feel that they ignore the value of the run/draw/screen as a means to keep the defense honest. Red just does not understand much beyond the passing lanes/routes. No feel for the game at all.
 

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I heard Aikman say, during an interview, the last Dallas team to run successful screens, Tom Landry was calling them and Staubach was throwing them.

I heard him elaborate on that once...he said those early 90's teams would practice and practice screens, and they just couldn't pull it off. The coaches finally pulled the plug and gave up trying.
 

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The lack of the delay draw is mindblowing. When you are passing from shotgun that often, the delay draw should be a staple play.

It seems like that was a staple for us just a few years ago, and it was pretty effective. Pretty hard to understand why it's disappeared during games.
 

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It seems like that was a staple for us just a few years ago, and it was pretty effective. Pretty hard to understand why it's disappeared during games.

I know why. Garrett happened. It was painful to see a gradual transformation of the gunslinger Romo back then. To the pocket passer Romo that we have now. Garrett has done a great job in destroying a once formidable offense to one that isn't worthy in today's league. Why can't Garrett just be someone that will take the good and weed out the bad plays then? Why did he have to totally change an offensive scheme that is outdated, predictable and flat out doesn't work? We may never know.
 
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