Lance Armstrong - Does Anybody Even Care Anymore?

[DFWJC]

I'm so tired of Armstrong. Having lived in Dallas for the last 21 years makes it even worse, the more you learn about him. It's been clear for a long time that he and all the rest in his sport have been dopers. But when you talk to personally some of the people that know or knew him you become further disappointed. The guy was a bit of a bully and could be a real ***, from what I'm told.
What was he, sportsman of the year 5-6 times?
Good grief.
As all people that fall, I hope he comes clean inside and out. But I'm just sick of him and his sport.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

I'm so tired of Armstrong. Having lived in Dallas for the last 21 years makes it even worse, the more you learn about him. It's been clear for a long time that he and all the rest in his sport have been dopers. But when you talk to personally some of the people that know or knew him you become further disappointed. The guy was a bit of a bully and could be a real ***, from what I'm told.
What was he, sportsman of the year 5-6 times?
Good grief.
As all people that fall, I hope he comes clean inside and out. But I'm just sick of him and his sport.

He is a terrible person whether he cheated at sports or not.

 

[Hoofbite]

I don't follow cycling so I don't care if he cheated and won. Don't care that others are cheating either. Just can the whole sport if the entire thing is tainted. Doesn't matter to me either way.

The only thing his confession does is completely demolish the foundations of what would have been one of the greatest sports stories of all time. A foundation that was awfully wobbly even without the admission.

Having admitted to cheating, the story is trash. Just another example of someone using illegitimate means of getting ahead.

When they came out a while back and took his titles, I was like "so.....he's filthy rich off them, I doubt he cares". But now after having heard of his efforts to basically cut anyone in his path down, I'm glad they took those away and I'm glad he's admitting because now it might nail him in the pocketbooks.......maybe.


That said, the result of his cheating on a grander scale cannot be denied. He did a ton for cancer research and for that he should be applauded, cheater or not.

Cheat in a rather uninteresting sport and use it to the benefit of countless people, I'm cool with that. Now that he has done it though and out of the picture at in that foundation (he did step down didn't he?), I hope they wreck him for being such a heartless ******* to anyone who stepped up to him.

 

[MapleLeaf]

...like all of us.

And like many before him he is going to pay for those mistakes.

Climbing to the top requires helping hands and steady shoulders to boost you up. Sometimes we, either by choice or mistake, step on the heads of others on the ascent.

It is a wisdom to try to avoid that because those same heads will be relishing your descent.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I'm wondering why he came clean. And I'm wondering why some people are even surprised.

 

[Hoov]

I don't follow cycling so I don't care if he cheated and won. Don't care that others are cheating either. Just can the whole sport if the entire thing is tainted. Doesn't matter to me either way.

The only thing his confession does is completely demolish the foundations of what would have been one of the greatest sports stories of all time. A foundation that was awfully wobbly even without the admission.

Having admitted to cheating, the story is trash. Just another example of someone using illegitimate means of getting ahead.

When they came out a while back and took his titles, I was like "so.....he's filthy rich off them, I doubt he cares". But now after having heard of his efforts to basically cut anyone in his path down, I'm glad they took those away and I'm glad he's admitting because now it might nail him in the pocketbooks.......maybe.


That said, the result of his cheating on a grander scale cannot be denied. He did a ton for cancer research and for that he should be applauded, cheater or not.

Cheat in a rather uninteresting sport and use it to the benefit of countless people, I'm cool with that. Now that he has done it though and out of the picture at in that foundation (he did step down didn't he?), I hope they wreck him for being such a heartless ******* to anyone who stepped up to him.

Im afraid i dont know much about Lance other than what he did as a cyclist and now the admission to doping, but i keep reading from people that he was a real jerk.

What exactly did he do or is he doing for people to consider him so heartless and so forth. I saw on ESPN everyone was stating they didnt care for his attitude and what he was doing but thats all i heard.... I must have completely missed out on the story.

 

[joseephuss]

Im afraid i dont know much about Lance other than what he did as a cyclist and now the admission to doping, but i keep reading from people that he was a real jerk.

What exactly did he do or is he doing for people to consider him so heartless and so forth. I saw on ESPN everyone was stating they didnt care for his attitude and what he was doing but thats all i heard.... I must have completely missed out on the story.

I have never run into him in Austin. I have heard that he is just rude to people. This was told to me by a few people I have met at parties and such. I have also heard people call into the radio stations with similar experience. He seemingly has an "he thinks his you know what doesn't stink" attitude.

He has also been very vindictive against anyone that tried to tell what is apparently the truth about his doping.

Here is a long article from this past October:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/zone-lance-armstrong-bully-downfall-article-1.1188512

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Im afraid i dont know much about Lance other than what he did as a cyclist and now the admission to doping, but i keep reading from people that he was a real jerk.

What exactly did he do or is he doing for people to consider him so heartless and so forth. I saw on ESPN everyone was stating they didnt care for his attitude and what he was doing but thats all i heard.... I must have completely missed out on the story.

suing someone for libel, slander or whatever he did, who is telling the truth usually is considered jerkish behavior. makes it worse when it's a person, not a coorporation.

then add to it the personal attacks he made to discredit these people, when some only came foward because the government came calling, makes it worse.

 

[vta]

I think he should be more embarrassed for going on Oprahs show and confessing.

Geez, Lance take back your nads and move on.

 

[joseephuss]

I think he should be more embarrassed for going on Oprahs show and confessing.

Geez, Lance take back your nads and move on.

He is obviously targeting females by going on Oprah. I don't know if that strategy will work, but he is trying to get women on his side as much as possible.

 

[rocboy22]

screw him, he's a doosh

 

[vta]

He is obviously targeting females by going on Oprah. I don't know if that strategy will work, but he is trying to get women on his side as much as possible.

On his side for what? Is he looking for an endorsement deal for something?
I'm not really pointing out that it's Oprah though, more the fact the guy is going on TV playing the sycophant. Way more than embarrassing than being caught doping.

 

[joseephuss]

On his side for what? Is he looking for an endorsement deal for something?
I'm not really pointing out that it's Oprah though, more the fact the guy is going on TV playing the sycophant. Way more than embarrassing than being caught doping.

I have no idea what his end game is. He is a calculating guy. He went on Oprah for a reason. I speculate in part to get the softer gender on his side. To what end I do not know.

The problem for Lance isn't that he was doping. That could have been forgiven. His problem is that everyone is now seeing that he is a big, hateful jerk. He has to try and fix that.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

On his side for what? Is he looking for an endorsement deal for something?

I'm tempting to make a ****** bag joke, but I won't

 

[Hoov]

I have no idea what his end game is. He is a calculating guy. He went on Oprah for a reason. I speculate in part to get the softer gender on his side. To what end I do not know.

The problem for Lance isn't that he was doping. That could have been forgiven. His problem is that everyone is now seeing that he is a big, hateful jerk. He has to try and fix that.

Thanks for posting the link to that article.

I can certainly see how many would get pulled into using PED's if it was common place in your sport, and if that sport was your career and primary source of income. I agree that people would be forgiving of that.

Its another case of not be willing to accept the consequences of your actions and the attempts to cover it up ends up doing more damage then if he had just decided to face up to the truth.

Im sure it was embarrassing for him to confess after repeatedly denying the whole thing and i can undestand that once he started down that path it would be more and more difficult to come clean.

when he started using PED's it's probable that he never saw himself becoming the popular figure and hero that he eventually became... so at first he was just another guy training and doing what many others were doing to compete. Once he got to that point of fame and basicly being worshipped by so many - then i think its very hard for a person at that level to admit to something that would be such a disapointment so i can imagine there would be a great level of difficulty there. I think some might underestimate that.

However, it still stands that he cheated and continued to publicly lie about it and people have a hard time finding a person likeable when they see that. And he took it to another level with the threats that were being made against others. I dont know if you can fix your reputation after something like that is carried out in the public for everyone to see.

 

[newlander]

screw him, he's a doosh

and ND and Swarbrick are worse for covering up for him. HIs 'teammates' are coming out and outing him now...said he knew and milked it for PR....what a scumbag.

 

[vta]

I'm tempting to make a ****** bag joke, but I won't

:laugh2:

 

[big dog cowboy]

Does anybody even care?

No.

Actually hell no.

 

[crazytown41]

This mess just showed us how easy it is to pass PED testing. Lance never failed a test. Have to wonder how many pro athletes are getting away with this right now.

VADA and CIR random testing is the way to clean up pro sports according to Vic Conte.

 

[Doomsday]

I'm wondering why he came clean. And I'm wondering why some people are even surprised.

I would bet it is because Oprah paid him a small ransom.