Landry's 3 year limit rule

[dfense]

Tom Landry used to have a rule about giving a player three years. If he doesn't begin to perform by then, cut your losses.

Ogletree has fallen into that category now.

How can a 3 year veteran, in line for more playing time, not know where to line up? On multiple occasions?

What route to run? TWICE?

Not only did he drop a TD. He also fumbled inside the 15. He cost the team an interception. And probably another TD when the Cowboys were at the 2 with his awesome turn around at the 5 route.

Let 'em go and keep Laurentis.

 

[tupperware]

Agreed.

If you don't know the basics by now, you're not paying attention in class and not in to your playbook.

Cut em!

 

[Stautner]

Like others I saw some potential in Ogletree when he first appeared in Dallas. Unlike others, I never saw anything materialize out of that potential. Beyond his initial spark of promise Ogletree simply hasn't done much to indicate he is maturing and developing.

 

[cbow44]

was thinking the same thing about Ogletree and Bennett.

 

[joseephuss]

His third year is not over yet. You make those moves after the 3rd year not during.

 

[iceberg]

Tom Landry used to have a rule about giving a player three years. If he doesn't begin to perform by then, cut your losses.

Ogletree has fallen into that category now.

How can a 3 year veteran, in line for more playing time, not know where to line up? On multiple occasions?

What route to run? TWICE?

Not only did he drop a TD. He also fumbled inside the 15. He cost the team an interception. And probably another TD when the Cowboys were at the 2 with his awesome turn around at the 5 route.

Let 'em go and keep Laurentis.

wow - another "i hate o-tree" thread.

we were running low.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Try to trade Ogletree, Bennett and Choice in a package deal to a team that needs depth at all three positions, KC for a 3rd round pick. They would probably do it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Tom Landry used to have a rule about giving a player three years. If he doesn't begin to perform by then, cut your losses.

Ogletree has fallen into that category now.

How can a 3 year veteran, in line for more playing time, not know where to line up? On multiple occasions?

What route to run? TWICE?

Not only did he drop a TD. He also fumbled inside the 15. He cost the team an interception. And probably another TD when the Cowboys were at the 2 with his awesome turn around at the 5 route.

Let 'em go and keep Laurentis.

I will not go as far as saying get rid of Tree right now, heck we were forced to bring in Robinson because of the thinness of the WR group.

Having said that I would look to others like Robinson or one of the other young WR to take over the role currently held by Tree unless or until he can show the coaches he is better prepared.

I just don't think depth wise it would be a good move to outright cut him right now.

 

[iceberg]

I will not go as far as saying get rid of Tree right now, heck we were forced to bring in Robinson because of the thinness of the WR group.

Having said that I would look to others like Robinson or one of the other young WR to take over the role currently held by Tree unless or until he can show the coaches he is better prepared.

I just don't think depth wise it would be a good move to outright cut him right now.

it would be stupid, but when you have no vested financial interest in the game, you can madden around all you want.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Just my personal preference, but how about we knee jerk after both the starting wide-outs get healthy?

 

[Doomsday101]

it would be stupid, but when you have no vested financial interest in the game, you can madden around all you want.

True, the mob mentality after a game like that is always "Cut Him" that is great if there is someone else we can bring in. Unless that happens then cutting Tree looks more like a move out of spite not what is in the best interest of the team.

 

[dfense]

wow - another "i hate o-tree" thread.

we were running low.

I wouldn't call it an "I hate" thread. It's more of a "what you see is what you're going to get" thread.

Laurentis looked better than a three year veteran after being on the roster a week. He seemed to know the where, when and how's a lot better than Ogletree. That leads me to believe it won't be that hard to replace him.

I look for the Cowboys to move on after the season. Tree can head for Miami, where all the Cowboy cast offs go.

 

[Zaxor]

Darren Woodson on that new espn show NFL32 said he would have cut 3 cowboys because of their performance on Monday night and he has no doubt Jimmy would have cut at least one...Said Jimmy would have never cut an Aikman, Smith, Irvin type but those guys from 45 on down thru 53...

My belief is that those players can't afford to be lackadaisical about their job.. if you want it.. earn it... if not get off the team and let someone there that wants it...

Having said that fiscal responsibility must also play into the equation plus who is there to replace said player.

 

[JoeCorrado]

it would be stupid, but when you have no vested financial interest in the game, you can madden around all you want.

ROFL - I think that it is safe to say, at this point, that the owner has absolutely no hesitancy in cutting a player regardless of the "financial interest" that he may have in said player, or players.

Do the math. Jerry has seen some dollars go from paper loss to real loss this season. I don't doubt that the relative chump change that represents O-trees contract will influence the final decision in any way what so ever.

What WILL influence, or even hasten said decision is whether the bulb lights up for O-tree, or one of our other depth receivers shows that he is ready to push Tree out. And at this point, it won't take much of a push, I assure you.

 

[Aikbach]

He definitely had a poor game Monday Night but he wasn't that bad in the bay.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Not too pleased with how "Tree" performed on Sunday but, given the fact that he is nothing more than a #3 WR at best, I think he needs a break.

Did anyone really expect him to perform the way Austin did a few years ago when given the opportunity? Keep in mind that the only reason he saw extensive playing time is because Austin was out and Dez was hurt.

 

[JoeCorrado]

Not too pleased with how "Tree" performed on Sunday but, given the fact that he is nothing more than a #3 WR at best, I think he needs a break.

Did anyone really expect him to perform the way Austin did a few years ago when given the opportunity? Keep in mind that the only reason he saw extensive playing time is because Austin was out and Dez was hurt.

No. Nobody could expect him to replace Austin's numbers, or to repeat the KC performance- but we have every right to expect that our number three can step up when needed to fill in as the number two without a huge, huge, huge drop off, off the map drop off. That is a part of the job description.

He may not be as good as our number two, but he must be able to fill that roll in a reasonable manner. What we have seen for the last two weeks, would most likely not be considered a "reasonable" performance by most reasonable people.

I am not saying cut him today, but like I have stated elsewhere; at this point it won't take much of a push by Robinson or one the others to push O-tree right out the door.

The Tree must know that as well. He has his chance right now to save his spot, but the same old, same old is getting old and it won't get it done any more.

Take that to the bank.

 

[Aikbach]

Not too pleased with how "Tree" performed on Sunday but, given the fact that he is nothing more than a #3 WR at best, I think he needs a break.

Did anyone really expect him to perform the way Austin did a few years ago when given the opportunity? Keep in mind that the only reason he saw extensive playing time is because Austin was out and Dez was hurt.

Pretty much, you only find undrafted gems like Mile s Austin once a decade or so, Dallas fluked and did it twice last decade when they landed Romo too.

Miles Austin, Wes Welker, Rod Smith, Drew Pearson are pretty much a very elite class of undrafted wideouts spanning back almost 40 years that would've been first round picks in retrospect.

Most UFA are UFA with good reason, especially at wideout.

 

[Joe Realist]

wish we hung on to Crayton

 

[Zimmy Lives]

No. Nobody could expect him to replace Austin's numbers, or to repeat the KC performance- but we have every right to expect that our number three can step up when needed to fill in as the number two without a huge, huge, huge drop off, off the map drop off. That is a part of the job description.

He may not be as good as our number two, but he must be able to fill that roll in a reasonable manner. What we have seen for the last two weeks, would most likely not be considered a "reasonable" performance by most reasonable people.

I am not saying cut him today, but like I have stated elsewhere; at this point it won't take much of a push by Robinson or one the others to push O-tree right out the door.

The Tree must know that as well. He has his chance right now to save his spot, but the same old, same old is getting old and it won't get it done any more.

Take that to the bank.

I agree, the kid needs to step up and take advantage of his opportunity. My point, however, is that we may be overestimating his ability. The fact that he started does not mean that we should expect him to perform like a starter when he is arguably no better than the third best receiver on the team.