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ABQCOWBOY said:
I'll tell ya guys, I don't care what BP said in the PC, I watched that play and it looked like a clean hit to me.

I couldn't agree more. His helmet hit Brunells shoulder pads with his hands extended. I'll take that to my grave. CLEAN hit. No pulling up involved. Wasn't needed. It was CLEAN. I'm not using this as an excuse for the outcome either. Bad, Bad call. That and the Flo "holding" call ticks me off more than the two stink bombs Brunell threw.
 

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Derinyar said:
Because the league wants to protect ratings, and that means protecting offenses. People like watching high scoring games more than low scoring ones. Offensive games more than defensive games. Therefore rule changes will usually be implimented to protect/help offensive players.

But they are inconsitent even with that. Like the horse collar tackle not applying to the QB while in the pocket.
 

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joseephuss said:
But they are inconsitent even with that. Like the horse collar tackle not applying to the QB while in the pocket.
The reason the horse collar was taken out is the sudden loss of motion is hard on the joints/ligaments.

IE the WR is going full out and suddenly is jerked backward by 235+ pounds of force going the opposite direction. IF that cleat gets trapped at all somethings going to break.

The QB inside the pocket isn't likely moving that much or that fast, as is the RB inside the hole.
 

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thats7 said:
Bad, Bad call. That and the Flo "holding" call ticks me off more than the two stink bombs Brunell threw.

Amen!!! The other guys get paid to play football too. So getting beat by good plays is one thing, but getting jacked is something totally different.
 

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joseephuss said:
Isn't there a penalty for going to the QBs legs?

Your absolutly right, there is. Good point.

NFL Rules and Regulations - Players Rule Book.

Section XXVI - Sub Section 5, Identified in paragraph 3.

Any defensive player shall avoid contact with Quarterback below the hemline of the standard uniform (described here to as "Dress"), in the course of a live play. If a player should be found to have initiated contact below the hemline, that player/team can be penalized with a 15 yard personal foul, from the line of scrimmage, and the offense will be awarded a 1st down. Offending player may also receive penalty from the rules review committe (NFL League Office) should the violation be found to be explicitly offensive (IE responsible for wrinkling the QBs dress, causing runs in the QBs panty hose) and individual fines may be handed out to players found guilty of such rules violations.
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
Your absolutly right, there is. Good point.

NFL Rules and Regulations - Players Rule Book.

Section XXVI - Sub Section 5, Identified in paragraph 3.

Any defensive player shall avoid contact with Quarterback below the hemline of the standard uniform (described here to as "Dress"), in the course of a live play. If a player should be found to have initiated contact below the hemline, that player/team can be penalized with a 15 yard personal foul, from the line of scrimmage, and the offense will be awarded a 1st down. Offending player may also receive penalty from the rules review committe (NFL League Office) should the violation be found to be explicitly offensive (IE responsible for wrinkling the QBs dress, causing runs in the QBs panty hose) and individual fines may be handed out to players found guilty of such rules violations.


Sounds like the strike zone in baseball. You can only hit him from the shoulder to the knee.

The problem is that the defender can be aiming for the chest area and the QB in following through or turning/ducking to absorb contact can put his head into the targeted zone causing helmet to helmet contact.
 

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The other question I think is why is a former offensive player solely responsible for levying fine.

Its helping make the offenses look like little girls at times.
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
I'll tell ya guys, I don't care what BP said in the PC, I watched that play and it looked like a clean hit to me.

What does BP care at this point? What would he gain by saying it was a bad call? You think he watched that call over and over -- not likely. He's concentrating on stuff he can better control -- like how his players perform. Not what the refs do.
 

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abersonc said:
What does BP care at this point? What would he gain by saying it was a bad call? You think he watched that call over and over -- not likely. He's concentrating on stuff he can better control -- like how his players perform. Not what the refs do.

The point here is that regardless of what BP says, I saw the hit and I did not see a problem with it. Now, you may ask, what does my opinion have to do with anything? A valid question, I grant you but, since this is a discussion board, designed to discuss opinions specific to Dallas Cowboys football, I throw it out there.

It kinda works out in a twisted kinda way.
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
The point here is that regardless of what BP says, I saw the hit and I did not see a problem with it.

For what it's worth, I agree with you (and I'm a Parcells' Apologist) :)
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
The point here is that regardless of what BP says, I saw the hit and I did not see a problem with it. Now, you may ask, what does my opinion have to do with anything? A valid question, I grant you but, since this is a discussion board, designed to discuss opinions specific to Dallas Cowboys football, I throw it out there.

It kinda works out in a twisted kinda way.

Wow thanks for explaining that.

Now that I think about it - you must be right. We should spend our time whining about calls.

Until there is another AB for Larry Johnson thread I'll be eagerly awaiting every post in this one!
 
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