Lebron lets the Cleveland Fans know what he really thinks!

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peplaw06;3460767 said:
How come this was never an issue until after he left? Why wasn't it brought up in the playoffs? Why did Cleveland want him back if he's a quitter? Why were Cleveland fans crying when he left?

Sounds like sour grapes from a bunch of crybabies to me.

I think Dan Gilbert tried to "make **** up" in his letter to bash LeBron like a jilted lover, and the Cleveland fans (sheep) bought it hook, line and sinker, and joined in the wailing.

Boo Hoo.

It was an issue, sorry you missed it. But carry on with not knowing what you're talking about.
 

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casmith07;3460782 said:
You just sound like you're whining. It's not a good look.

Actually it's just that you have no ability to grasp anything beyond what ESPN tells you, and you're sticking with it.

You don't have an answer for LeQuit being responsible for wanting the 'garbage' players that was on his team. You're all about deflection.

I've maintained the entire way my problem with him was quitting in the playoffs and nothing to do with free agency. In fact, one of my earliest posts on the entire matter has me saying if I were him I'd leave too, just I wouldn't have been such a ******bag about it. Anything else is you reaching into your bag of nothing.
 

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Seven;3460787 said:
I don't even watch basketball and I heard form several different sports casters/analyists form several different stations that LeBron wasn't giving full effort. This is not anything new. How true it is I couldn't tell ya but it was out there.
Sure he was criticized for poor games, considering they lost in the second round. But called a "quitter?" He had a triple double in Game 6.

Game 1, 35 pts - 7 reb - 7 ast
Game 2, 24-7-4
Game 3, 38-8-7
Game 4, 22-9-8
Game 5, 15-6-7
Game 6, 27-19-10

Average PG 26.8-9.3-7.2
Season avg PG 29.7-7.3-8.6

When exactly did he "quit?"

Oh yeah - Cleveland wanted him back because he was responsible for 100 million dollars in revenue.
So they thought he was a "quitter" but wanted him back because of the money? haha. Sounds like a garbage franchise to me.

jackrussell;3461187 said:
It was an issue, sorry you missed it. But carry on with not knowing what you're talking about.
He had one bad game. Not a bad series. Need a tissue?
 

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jackrussell;3461189 said:
Actually it's just that you have no ability to grasp anything beyond what ESPN tells you, and you're sticking with it.

FALSE. If you actually spoke to me like an adult, then I'd have a very poignant discussion with you about basketball, but since you've decided to result to petty and pathetic insult attempts in order to try and check your ego against everyone else's, I'll save my time and my energy.

You don't have an answer for LeQuit being responsible for wanting the 'garbage' players that was on his team. You're all about deflection.

Sure I have an answer - at the time, those might have been the best players available for him to try and build around. Go back and look at the free agents - the NBA didn't have the people there. One quick glance at the laundry list of guys available this summer would tell anyone that the situation was pretty dire for free agency.

And hey - maybe LeBron isn't a very good judge of talent if those are the players that he wanted brought in.


I've maintained the entire way my problem with him was quitting in the playoffs and nothing to do with free agency. In fact, one of my earliest posts on the entire matter has me saying if I were him I'd leave too, just I wouldn't have been such a ******bag about it. Anything else is you reaching into your bag of nothing.

Now where do you get that he quit in playoffs? Boston overpowered the Cavaliers, plain and simple. They were better at every position except LeBron's. And I think LeBron probably doesn't care what you think about how he left or if you think it's worthy of name-calling (again, sophomoric).

Stop being so emotional over it. Whining from a grown man is not a good look.
 

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peplaw06;3460767 said:
How come this was never an issue until after he left? Why wasn't it brought up in the playoffs? Why did Cleveland want him back if he's a quitter? Why were Cleveland fans crying when he left?

Sounds like sour grapes from a bunch of crybabies to me.

I think Dan Gilbert tried to "make **** up" in his letter to bash LeBron like a jilted lover, and the Cleveland fans (sheep) bought it hook, line and sinker, and joined in the wailing.

Boo Hoo.

LOL.

The post made me laugh.

Though to be fair Jack did say he would have left too, just not the way in which Lebron did it.

But the quitter thing wouldn't have been even mentioned by Jack, or discussed by him here if Lebron had chosen to stay in Cleveland.

He, like Slate, are running with that now cause Lebron didnt want to stay with a franchise that was probably never going to get all the pieces necassary to win a title.



casmith07;3460782 said:
You just sound like you're whining. It's not a good look.

peplaw06;3461229 said:
Sure he was criticized for poor games, considering they lost in the second round. But called a "quitter?" He had a triple double in Game 6.

Game 1, 35 pts - 7 reb - 7 ast
Game 2, 24-7-4
Game 3, 38-8-7
Game 4, 22-9-8
Game 5, 15-6-7
Game 6, 27-19-10

Average PG 26.8-9.3-7.2
Season avg PG 29.7-7.3-8.6

When exactly did he "quit?"

So they thought he was a "quitter" but wanted him back because of the money? haha. Sounds like a garbage franchise to me.


He had one bad game. Not a bad series. Need a tissue?

Yep. Really looked like he just absolutely gave up, quit, and tanked the entire series to me.

That tripple Double in game 6, a game they needed to stay alive, really reinforces the idea that he quit in the playoffs.

lol

People will come up with anything when someone starts a rumor or makes a comment. They'll run with that stuff hardcore.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3461350 said:
LOL.

The post made me laugh.

Though to be fair Jack did say he would have left too, just not the way in which Lebron did it.

But the quitter thing wouldn't have been even mentioned by Jack, or discussed by him here if Lebron had chosen to stay in Cleveland.

He, like Slate, are running with that now cause Lebron didnt want to stay with a franchise that was probably never going to get all the pieces necassary to win a title.







Yep. Really looked like he just absolutely gave up, quit, and tanked the entire series to me.

That tripple Double in game 6, a game they needed to stay alive, really reinforces the idea that he quit in the playoffs.

lol

People will come up with anything when someone starts a rumor or makes a comment. They'll run with that stuff hardcore.

He had the one bad game in game 5, but the entire team stunk in that game.
 

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peplaw06;3460693 said:
:hammer:

I can't believe these bunch of crybabies. They act like free agency is something new. Look at all the other free agents who left their teams. They're not being called quitters.

What because LeBron was the most hyped FA to hit the market in years, he's singled out as a quitter? Give me a break.

Apparently in their eyes Lebron is supposed to piss away the best years of his career for a team that will never win and for ownership and management who know nothing about winning or building championships.

Was Lebron supposed to wait until his twilight years before going elsewhere to win a ring? Was he supposed to pull a Karl Malone and try to win one on his way out the door?
 

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peplaw06;3461229 said:
Sure he was criticized for poor games, considering they lost in the second round. But called a "quitter?" He had a triple double in Game 6.

Game 1, 35 pts - 7 reb - 7 ast
Game 2, 24-7-4
Game 3, 38-8-7
Game 4, 22-9-8
Game 5, 15-6-7
Game 6, 27-19-10

Average PG 26.8-9.3-7.2
Season avg PG 29.7-7.3-8.6

When exactly did he "quit?"

So they thought he was a "quitter" but wanted him back because of the money? haha. Sounds like a garbage franchise to me.


He had one bad game. Not a bad series. Need a tissue?


Are you talking about 'they' or 'me'?

Unlike you folks, I can;t speak for why 'they' wanted him back, I only had their back in saying I understood why 'they' were upset about him leaving, when there were alot of you saying "I just can't understand why 'they' are so upset.

Really? Noone could understand why they were upset? A fan base lost their best hope at winning a championship, and you Einstiens can understand why they are upset. Brilliant.

As far as 'my' steadfast claim in that he quit in the series, you're too much about the numbers and good or bad games. Unlike most of you, you've watched him in what, a few games a year? You're too easily impressed with triple/double and boxscores. I've watched him a hundred times that, and instantly recognized his disinterest and 'no mas' game 5 attitude, where the series was basically lost. I saw it, it was talked about (and still is) by many media outlets, and you're just being oblivious to it.
 

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casmith07;3461245 said:
FALSE. If you actually spoke to me like an adult, then I'd have a very poignant discussion with you about basketball, but since you've decided to result to petty and pathetic insult attempts in order to try and check your ego against everyone else's, I'll save my time and my energy.

Bull****. You are being spoke to as you deserve. One who didn't some to have a poignant discussion, but one who wanted to throw an entire fanbase under the bus with errant accusations and inuendo, as if they have any blame in the matter.


Sure I have an answer - at the time, those might have been the best players available for him to try and build around. Go back and look at the free agents - the NBA didn't have the people there. One quick glance at the laundry list of guys available this summer would tell anyone that the situation was pretty dire for free agency.

And hey - maybe LeBron isn't a very good judge of talent if those are the players that he wanted brought in.

Well howdy doody, your're onto it now. But recognizing that and then saying the Cavs are a garbage orginization don't exactly mesh. If the people weren't there or available, how exactly were they supposed to get them, and why does that makes them garbage because they couldn't?

Now where do you get that he quit in playoffs? Boston overpowered the Cavaliers, plain and simple. They were better at every position except LeBron's. And I think LeBron probably doesn't care what you think about how he left or if you think it's worthy of name-calling (again, sophomoric).

You think LeQuit doesn't care what I think? You think? Really? How about I know he doesn't care. And I don't think that has anyhting to do with anything. I'm not the only one who felt he didn't bring the intensity needed. You people accept good numbers as proof he didn't quit. The problem is, for those that know his true potential, we saw alot left on the floor.

Stop being so emotional over it. Whining from a grown man is not a good look.


So quit coming in and telling how I or anyone else should think or fell about it. Until you do, I'll come back and tell you how you're wrong in doing it.
 

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jackrussell;3461412 said:
Bull****. You are being spoke to as you deserve.

We're done here. You're a sad, sad individual. When you calm down and stop being so emotional we can talk like men.
 

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jackrussell;3461410 said:
Are you talking about 'they' or 'me'?

Unlike you folks, I can;t speak for why 'they' wanted him back, I only had their back in saying I understood why 'they' were upset about him leaving, when there were alot of you saying "I just can't understand why 'they' are so upset.

Really? Noone could understand why they were upset? A fan base lost their best hope at winning a championship, and you Einstiens can understand why they are upset. Brilliant.
When did I ever say I don't understand why they are upset? I can certainly understand they're upset. But all this being upset at the same time as trying to take shots at the guy's performance is embarrassing. It's disingenuous. Why would you be upset he left if you really think he's a quitter? I don't care how talented you are. If I really thought the guy was a quitter and was going to fold up the tent when it mattered, I wouldn't want him on my team, no matter how much money he brings the owner. He's not lining my pocketbook.

As far as 'my' steadfast claim in that he quit in the series, you're too much about the numbers and good or bad games. Unlike most of you, you've watched him in what, a few games a year? You're too easily impressed with triple/double and boxscores. I've watched him a hundred times that, and instantly recognized his disinterest and 'no mas' game 5 attitude, where the series was basically lost. I saw it, it was talked about (and still is) by many media outlets, and you're just being oblivious to it.
Truth is, you have no idea what is mindset was in Game 5. He had an awful game to be sure. But how in the world can you know what's going on in his head, and that he "quit"? He is one of the best players in the game and had a terrible game in a pivotal one. Who are you to say it was him quitting versus being extremely frustrated with his own performance and the performance of his teammates?

I was unaware you were clarievoyant.
 

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peplaw06;3461533 said:
Why would you be upset he left if you really think he's a quitter?

I've never claimed to be upset he left. And for those who might think he quit and still wanted him, some were very hopeful that perhaps it was his elbow. You know, the elbow we've never heard about since the series was over?

Truth is, you have no idea what is mindset was in Game 5. He had an awful game to be sure. But how in the world can you know what's going on in his head, and that he "quit"? He is one of the best players in the game and had a terrible game in a pivotal one. Who are you to say it was him quitting versus being extremely frustrated with his own performance and the performance of his teammates?

I was unaware you were clarievoyant.

Truth is I never said I knew his mindset. It wasn't he had an awful game, because I've seen him have several in his career. It was unmistakeable of his disinterest in that game. Never had he just stood back and watched the action. He went an incredibly long stretch without even taking a shot.

I say he quit, you don't agree or like it, I really don't care.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3461350 said:
LOL.



But the quitter thing wouldn't have been even mentioned by Jack, or discussed by him here if Lebron had chosen to stay in Cleveland.

He, like Slate, are running with that now cause Lebron didnt want to stay with a franchise that was probably never going to get all the pieces necassary to win a title.

Still clueless I see. I mentioned him quitting during game 5, long before Gilbert said anyhting.

But you're obviously on a roll here on some genuine disinformation.
 

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casmith07;3461472 said:
We're done here. You're a sad, sad individual. When you calm down and stop being so emotional we can talk like men.

Buh bye.
 

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Jordan wouldn't have called Magic, Bird



Michael Jordan led the Chicago Bulls to six titles. And while he had Scottie Pippen, there is little question the Bulls were Jordan's team.

So what does Jordan, arguably one of the best-ever in the NBA, think of LeBron James joining with All-Stars Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh to form a super team in Miami?

"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'" Jordan said after playing in a celebrity golf tournament in Nevada. "But that's ... things are different. I can't say that's a bad thing. It's an opportunity these kids have today. In all honesty, I was trying to beat those guys."

James, who played his first seven seasons with his home state Cleveland Cavaliers, was part of one of the most celebrated free agent classes in history this summer. He met with the Cavs, Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat, New York Knicks and New Jersey Nets.

James let the world know he was taking his talents to South Beach in an hour-long TV special on July 8.

TNT analyst Charles Barkley said James' decision may change his legacy. "He'll never be Jordan," Barkley told 790 the Ticket in Miami earlier in the week. "This clearly takes him out of the conversation. He can win as much as he wants to.

"There would have been something honorable about staying in Cleveland and trying to win it as 'The Man' ... LeBron, if he would've in Cleveland, and if he could've got a championship there, it would have been over the top for his legacy, just one in Cleveland. No matter how many he wins in Miami, it clearly is Dwyane Wade's team."
 
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