Video: Leighton Vander Esch, LBs & D Line Help

[TwoDeep3]

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[buybuydandavis]

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Unfortunately, he's just wrong about LVE's injury being "freak". When we drafted him, we knew he had a recurring neck issue. I think they fused a disc. Future problems with a fused disc will not be freak issues either. Seems like a big deal to me, and a big risk for further problems.

Sad. Looked like we had a pro bowler for the next decade. Still might. But that seems a lot less likely.

 

[fivetwos]

The issue I take is that many of you think that first round picks are guaranteed contributors on the cheap.

Not at all. Too many things that can go wrong, and if they go too right, suddenly they are no longer cheap.

 

[Redball Express]

Unfortunately, he's just wrong about LVE's injury being "freak". When we drafted him, we knew he had a recurring neck issue. I think they fused a disc. Future problems with a fused disc will not be freak issues either. Seems like a big deal to me, and a big risk for further problems.

Sad. Looked like we had a pro bowler for the next decade. Still might. But that seems a lot less likely.

This is where I think Clowney gains value for us.

He can play both DL and outside LB in this hybrid defense they say is going to be run.

Wolf Hunter will be needing to monitor his snaps.

Lee is notorious for missing games.

Smith had a down year and numerous holes in his play were exposed from his past injury.

Plug Clowney in and you have depth, pass rush and disquise in your defense.

I read we have $12 mil left in our cap but do not recall if that includes the rookie deals which re now being signed.

Make Clowney an offer and let's help the defense.

 

[buybuydandavis]

This is where I think Clowney gains value for us.

He can play both DL and outside LB in this hybrid defense they say is going to be run.

Wolf Hunter will be needing to monitor his snaps.

Lee is notorious for missing games.

Smith had a down year and numerous holes in his play were exposed from his past injury.

Plug Clowney in and you have depth, pass rush and disquise in your defense.

I read we have $12 mil left in our cap but do not recall if that includes the rookie deals which re now being signed.

Make Clowney an offer and let's help the defense.

Goodell still jerking Gregory around. What a scumbag.

I don't see it with Clowney unless Gregory becomes a hard no. We've got Gregory for 2 more years on the cheap. He's the guy we're going to want to play.

Gregory, Smith, Crawford, and others. Smith and Crawford have the size to go inside. We'd a little light at pass rushing DTs, but not enough to justify the money Clowney would require unless he's starting at RDE too.

 

[jazzcat22]

This is where I think Clowney gains value for us.

He can play both DL and outside LB in this hybrid defense they say is going to be run.

Wolf Hunter will be needing to monitor his snaps.

Lee is notorious for missing games.

Smith had a down year and numerous holes in his play were exposed from his past injury.

Plug Clowney in and you have depth, pass rush and disquise in your defense.

I read we have $12 mil left in our cap but do not recall if that includes the rookie deals which re now being signed.

Make Clowney an offer and let's help the defense.

Clowney has not been the most reliable player for being iron man and not missing games.
He is just as injury prone as Lee.
Wade of 12 million. Pay him $5 million for a 1 year prove it deal. And I will be ok with that. Like they did with Quinn last season.

 

[Redball Express]

Clowney has not been the most reliable player for being iron man and not missing games.
He is just as injury prone as Lee.
Wade of 12 million. Pay him $5 million for a 1 year prove it deal. And I will be ok with that. Like they did with Quinn last season.

It's a tough call.

Finding help is obviously not a priority.

Clowney has had issues of being available to play. When he was with Houston he was a target by the fans for being sidelined so much.

With the cap going down you would think Clowney would want to drop his price to get with a defense that could feature him and count on getting a better deal in 2021.

But who really knows what anybodies strategies are with the virus.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Make Clowney an offer and let's help the defense.

You spelled Everson Griffen wrong.

 

[Ranched]

Goodell still jerking Gregory around. What a scumbag.

For the fourth time since being taken in the second round of the '15 Draft, Gregory has been suspended by the NFL. Whose the real scumbag?!

 

[Bullflop]

There's a point at which any attentive FO is likely to apply the cautionary brakes. That is where the Cowboys are, in regards to Clowney. Even Griffen's contract is quite likely a testy challenge to agreeably welcome. I expect the Cowboys to look in the direction of the final cuts for help. They're likely aware of what's at stake in terms of the risk and what's really affordable.

 

[shabazz]

For the fourth time since being taken in the second round of the '15 Draft, Gregory has been suspended by the NFL. Whose the real scumbag?!

Both are.

One is a waste of roster space and the other is a PC puppet with no soul

 

[GenoT]

Clowney has not been the most reliable player for being iron man and not missing games.
He is just as injury prone as Lee.
Wade of 12 million. Pay him $5 million for a 1 year prove it deal. And I will be ok with that. Like they did with Quinn last season.

In theory, I agree. But at this point in time, JC is obviously still holding out for a multi-year/big-buck deal. Otherwise, he woulda been signed long ago.

As time goes on, if a team (Cowboys included) were to lose a starting pass-rusher to a long-term injury in training camp, that team might be willing to give JC at least one year at $10-$12mil. But if no team makes a desperation offer, JC might eventually lower his asking price, rather than risk sitting out a season for no pay.

Right now, it’s still a poker game.

 

[quickccc]

This is where I think Clowney gains value for us.
He can play both DL and outside LB in this hybrid defense they say is going to be run.
Wolf Hunter will be needing to monitor his snaps.
Lee is notorious for missing games.
Smith had a down year and numerous holes in his play were exposed from his past injury.

Plug Clowney in and you have depth, pass rush and disquise in your defense.
I read we have $12 mil left in our cap but do not recall if that includes the rookie deals which re now being signed.
Make Clowney an offer and let's help the defense.

This vid displays the lack of anchor and ground of our DTs, the key to getting offensive linemen off your LBs is the play of your interior DTs guys, and how long have to seeing this go on and on under Marinelli regime ?

But you also have to have someone way better vs run than Robert Quinn, Maliek Colllns and Cris Covington ... I've mentioned it several times over that Maliek should have been better used as a nickel rotation guy rather than a starter. he gives up way too much ground and can be swept away .

Quinn really would have been better served/used in the same sense as a nickel situational rush specialist as he either has no clue how to play the run , or he cannot physically play the run,.. or he is just flat ignoring the run and freelancing ..while we do need an upgrade at DE we don't need a vastly overpaid Clowney to do that either. .

 

[quickccc]

While LBs should not have to be constantly taking on blocking OL, i'm seeing too many games, too many teams and too many times
where he's not slipping and slicing past developing blocks before they get a chance to reach him.

i know he has the weight room strength at hand to not be as shell shocked by these OL guys but i'm not seeing that
strength translate onto the playing field and i'm still seeing too many instances where he's late or clueless in knowing how to
get blockers off of him quickly. i'm really hoping much better LB coaching (ala George Edwards) and a move to the OLB remedies
a lot of his problems.
I'm tellin' ya i am really worried about his long term stint run here.

 

[Cowboyny]

While LBs should not have to be constantly taking on blocking OL, i'm seeing too many games, too many teams and too many times
where he's not slipping and slicing past developing blocks before they get a chance to reach him.

i know he has the weight room strength at hand to not be as shell shocked by these OL guys but i'm not seeing that
strength translate onto the playing field and i'm still seeing too many instances where he's late or clueless in knowing how to
get blockers off of him quickly. i'm really hoping much better LB coaching (ala George Edwards) and a move to the OLB remedies
a lot of his problems.
I'm tellin' ya i am really worried about his long term stint run here.

Lve is one of my favorite players on the entire team. He showed as a rookie, flashes of his potential. I think we have to remember he still is developing not just on the field, but also in the weight room. He needs more consistency, has return to form as one of the better tacklers and evolve into a play maker at the position. He will probably never become that elite, stack and shed type of linebacker, but he doesn't need to be. Better play up front, game slowing down and trusting his instincts should make him become a very good player in this league. Durability is probably the only question mark to prevent this from happening.

 

[Redball Express]

This vid displays the lack of anchor and ground of our DTs, the key to getting offensive linemen off your LBs is the play of your interior DTs guys, and how long have to seeing this go on and on under Marinelli regime ?

But you also have to have someone way better vs run than Robert Quinn, Maliek Colllns and Cris Covington ... I've mentioned it several times over that Maliek should have been better used as a nickel rotation guy rather than a starter. he gives up way too much ground and can be swept away .

Quinn really would have been better served/used in the same sense as a nickel situational rush specialist as he either has no clue how to play the run , or he cannot physically play the run,.. or he is just flat ignoring the run and freelancing ..while we do need an upgrade at DE we don't need a vastly overpaid Clowney to do that either. .

I agree to some of Clowneys issues.

Being available has not been his strong suit. But..

my suggested signing is mainly to bolster 2 positions with one guy.

DE and LBer.

2 positions we neither drafted or looked for FA help.

So it's sort of last on my bucket list.

Clowney is not good enough to impact an offense by himself. Watts was his best team mate and with the vets we have..he would be a good add to me.

Everybody wants to talk about money. Crawford. Down grade him and we can afford Clowney.

But this team will not do things that just seem logical. It's no wonder we can't get better.

 

[quickccc]

While LBs should not have to be constantly taking on blocking OL, i'm seeing too many games, too many teams and too many times
where he's not slipping and slicing past developing blocks before they get a chance to reach him.

i know he has the weight room strength at hand to not be as shell shocked by these OL guys but i'm not seeing that
strength translate onto the playing field and i'm still seeing too many instances where he's late or clueless in knowing how to
get blockers off of him quickly. i'm really hoping much better LB coaching (ala George Edwards) and a move to the OLB remedies
a lot of his problems.
I'm tellin' ya i am really worried about his long term stint run here.

by this, i forgot to mention this is regarding Jaylon Smith .... not LVE

 

[buybuydandavis]

For the fourth time since being taken in the second round of the '15 Draft, Gregory has been suspended by the NFL. Whose the real scumbag?!

Suspended by the NFL =/= Scumbag

You can of course outsource your moral judgment to Goodell, but I won't be.

 

[Redball Express]

There's a point at which any attentive FO is likely to apply the cautionary brakes. That is where the Cowboys are, in regards to Clowney. Even Griffen's contract is quite likely a testy challenge to agreeably welcome. I expect the Cowboys to look in the direction of the final cuts for help. They're likely aware of what's at stake in terms of the risk and what's really affordable.

You and that rodeo logic.

With everything in doubt..

this maybe the best chance we have to win a SB before the reductions to the cap happen starting next year.

I think we have to have a win now attitude and load up now knowing next year probably means we can not afford Clowney nor even Dak unless they want longer term security in the face of things.

Most teams are going to be sheading cap not trying to increase it.

Thank goodness we have cap to work with..we at least should be able to hold the team together but Dak looks less nd less likely. Dalton looks like more and more the guy that can keep us competitive money-wise.

Funny how things have fallen our way in the middle of the biggest threat the NFL has ever seen.

This will be a narrow window of opportunity in 2020 and 2021.

Hoping we can figure this out.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Unfortunately, he's just wrong about LVE's injury being "freak". When we drafted him, we knew he had a recurring neck issue. I think they fused a disc. Future problems with a fused disc will not be freak issues either. Seems like a big deal to me, and a big risk for further problems.

Sad. Looked like we had a pro bowler for the next decade. Still might. But that seems a lot less likely.

The neckotomy he had in the offseason should help.