Let's get real on the Jerry is the blame issue

[CCBoy]

As to not a functional GM, let's take a quick look at some of the product, RECENTLY:

Claiborne, Carter youngsters on the rise for Cowboys

ATLANTA — If you are young and a member of the Dallas Cowboys, chances are something bad happened to you recently.

That is, unless your name is Morris Claiborne or Bruce Carter.

While clouds hang over the heads of youngsters plagued by either injuries (DeMarco Murray, Sean Lee), legal/family issues (Dez Bryant, Tyron Smith) or mistake-riddled play (Bryant), life for Claiborne and Carter just keeps getting better.

Tonight, the Cowboys need the two sons of the South to shine in the Georgia Dome.

Claiborne, a first-round pick from LSU, and fellow cornerback Brandon Carr will be charged with slowing down Atlanta's dynamic receiving duo of Roddy White and Julio Jones.

Coach Jason Garrett and defensive coordinator Rob Ryan agree Claiborne seems up to the tall task after watching him record five tackles, a pass breakup and a fumble recovery in last week's loss to the Giants.

Claiborne is the only Dallas defender to record turnovers in back-to-back games this season. Two weeks ago, he intercepted a pass in the end zone in the win at Carolina...


Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...ers-on-the-rise-for-4006290.php#ixzz2BGaLWpCm


But if you are hiding behind troubles for players, as a result of Jerry's incompetance...

Smith, Murray, Bryant, and Lee are all receiving grand reviews by almost all in the media, sports, scouts, or opponents.

Wait, that is six very strong and capable players added in the past three seasons. And they all reflect back to Jerry and Jason. Myth?:starspin

 

[Howardlittleton64]

Placing all grandstand show aside, I'll bet you a three litre coke right here and now, that the Cowboys will win against Atlanta this Sunday.

(and it WON'T boil down to Jerry being a problem of any sort)

Even if we do, that doesn't absolve Mr. Jones for the ineffective way he runs this team. That is what "fans" like you don't get. Mr. Jones is the problem with this team. He hires the ineffective and overmatched coaches. Extending one year wonders and overvaluing the talent on the team. There are so many other reasons, that are under Mr. Jones direct control, where this team fails. I just don't get how some "fans" continually give him a pass. Mr. Jones isn't the Dallas Cowboys although some of you seem to believe he is.

 

[CCBoy]

Even if we do, that doesn't absolve Mr. Jones for the ineffective way he runs this team. That is what "fans" like you don't get. Mr. Jones is the problem with this team. He hires the ineffective and overmatched coaches. Extending one year wonders and overvaluing the talent on the team. There are so many other reasons, that are under Mr. Jones direct control, where this team fails. I just don't get how some "fans" continually give him a pass. Mr. Jones isn't the Dallas Cowboys although some of you seem to believe he is.

Don't trip up extending one's bias onto another's words.

Now, explain away the credability of players, that include:

Just in the past three seasons - Dez Bryant, DeMarco Murray, Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Tyron Smith, and Morriss Claiborne have been added via the draft. That's as good, at a rate of two very strong players and starters added a year for the past three seasons. That IS a success rate equal to the very top organizations in the entire NFL. (no matter the burn barrel myth on Jerry)

Now, take quick stock:

Romo, Murray, Austin, Bryant, Witten, Smith, Ware, Spencer, Ratliff, Lee, Carter, Carr, Claiborne

Those would be starters on all rosters in the NFL.

This doesn't take into account strong contributors, such as:

Sensabaugh, Church, Coleman, Hatcher, Livings, Free, Costa, Jenkins, and Scandrick.

Did I forget Brent, Lissimore, Crawford, McCray, Wilber?

Who knows with the new additions of Sims and Peprah, or even Connor?

Granted, there could be some question concerning Costa, Burnadeau, and even Free, but they are proving at least NFL level of skills.

The job of the GM, is to gather together enough quality talent that a team has the chance to be competitive in the NFL. Jerry has done that, and no matter how many Keystone Kop episodes go down, or injuries occur...at some point, since they are a group of many talented players...THEY WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR BY GOOD PLAY. That's how things happen around strongly capable NFL quality players. Jerry or not!

Now, it's up to Jason Garrett and his coaching staff, and the players, to bring it together and then maintain standards...but, at some point, they will. They aren't anyone's fool, no matter how much 'Ripple' is passed around the proverbial burn barrel.

To this fan, the number of sarcastic and crying fans around this site, resemble more closely to a jilted wives club crying and sobbing together...for what it's worth.

 

[Howardlittleton64]

You struggle to make a coherent point quit while you are ahead. You overestimate the talent on this team as bad as Mr. Jones. Unlike him you don't have snake oil salesman wink to sell others what you are trying to push. Not enough of us have CCBoy decoder rings.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Don't trip up extending one's bias onto another's words.

Now, explain away the credability of players, that include:

Just in the past three seasons - Dez Bryant, DeMarco Murray, Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Tyron Smith, and Morriss Claiborne have been added via the draft. That's as good, at a rate of two very strong players and starters added a year for the past three seasons. That IS a success rate equal to the very top organizations in the entire NFL. (no matter the burn barrel myth on Jerry)

Now, take quick stock:

Romo, Murray, Austin, Bryant, Witten, Smith, Ware, Spencer, Ratliff, Lee, Carter, Carr, Claiborne

Those would be starters on all rosters in the NFL.

This doesn't take into account strong contributors, such as:

Sensabaugh, Church, Coleman, Hatcher, Livings, Free, Costa, Jenkins, and Scandrick.

Did I forget Brent, Lissimore, Crawford, McCray, Wilber?

Who knows with the new additions of Sims and Peprah, or even Connor?

Granted, there could be some question concerning Costa, Burnadeau, and even Free, but they are proving at least NFL level of skills.

The job of the GM, is to gather together enough quality talent that a team has the chance to be competitive in the NFL. Jerry has done that, and no matter how many Keystone Kop episodes go down, or injuries occur...at some point, since they are a group of many talented players...THEY WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR BY GOOD PLAY. That's how things happen around strongly capable NFL quality players. Jerry or not!

Now, it's up to Jason Garrett and his coaching staff, and the players, to bring it together and then maintain standards...but, at some point, they will. They aren't anyone's fool, no matter how much 'Ripple' is passed around the proverbial burn barrel.

To this fan, the number of sarcastic and crying fans around this site, resemble more closely to a jilted wives club crying and sobbing together...for what it's worth.

Even is Dallas played all world today...this is the Dalas Cowboys....you get what you've gotten for the last 17.

 

[CCBoy]

Even is Dallas played all world today...this is the Dalas Cowboys....you get what you've gotten for the last 17.

Emotional stereotyping is what a jury instructed to leave out of ALL deliberations that require judgements as to facts on the current situation. PERIOD.

And if you also require a decoder ring to understand that, go back to a High School level Civics class before becoming appointed in a real word trial as a jurist.

Or deal with some of the facts presented above...

 

[Rack]

One sentence can NOT paint a complete picture.

Yes, it can.

Not saying it does every time, but saying "it cannot paint a complete picture" is false.

 

[Common Sense]

Let's suppose, hypothetically, that for whatever reason, Jerrah decided to sell the team.

Do you suppose the new owner would want to keep him as GM?

No? Well, okay. Jerry's hypothetically now a free agent. Name one of the 31 other NFL teams who would hire Jerry Jones to be their GM.

If the Cowboys are supposed to be the "best," then why do they have a General Manager that no one else in the league would even want?

Jerry Jones is to the GM position what Quincy Carter was to QB.

 

[TwoDeep3]

One sentence can NOT paint a complete picture. But it can relay a legend or folklore which by definition, already strains truth beyond acceptable/verifiable information.

That returns to the loudest voice routine...and abuse of the truth.

Just saying...

John Lennon is dead by a hail of an assassin's bullets.

I think that paints a perfect picture about what is.

Jerry Jones is the General Manager and therefore responsible for everything associated with the Dallas Cowboys, including wins and losses.



Look, I did it three times in a row.

 

[Risen Star]

John Lennon is dead by a hail of an assassin's bullets.

I think that paints a perfect picture about what is.

Jerry Jones is the General Manager and therefore responsible for everything associated with the Dallas Cowboys, including wins and losses.



Look, I did it three times in a row.

 

[CCBoy]

John Lennon is dead by a hail of an assassin's bullets.

I think that paints a perfect picture about what is.

Jerry Jones is the General Manager and therefore responsible for everything associated with the Dallas Cowboys, including wins and losses.

Look, I did it three times in a row.

Really?


Where is your rebuttal, except by poetic license and a 'yellow brick road.'

Owner has final responsibility for all wins/losses. A GM is responsible for general guidelines of play, coaching staff, contracts, and rosters.

You continually return to regions of Puff the Magic Dragon, and aren't seen again in real and current discussion of presented and current discussion of job requirements.

Sorry, that doesn't even qualify for a burn barrel bunch retort, but more closely resembled that group's disenfranchised wives, the crying wive's club.

If just phrases are to be batted about.

Simply stated, the stance that YOU take, is crying in one's beer over the past. As when presented the opportunity to discuss purely present and coaching/roster considerations, well, you returned to yet another version of Are You Going to Scarborough Fair, but presented in the neighborhood of Kent State.

Sorry, I don't buy that neighborhood or the song...but you fail at court, because you failed to deal with the opposing points in a discussion. You merely ignore those and continue with your ballad.

Hey, do you play a banjo as well?


Think, that you fail to explain also, that 'Puff' was the Vulcan in Viet Nam...old buddy.

 

[CCBoy]

:bounce:

 

[CCBoy]

Let's suppose, hypothetically, that for whatever reason, Jerrah decided to sell the team.

Do you suppose the new owner would want to keep him as GM?

No? Well, okay. Jerry's hypothetically now a free agent. Name one of the 31 other NFL teams who would hire Jerry Jones to be their GM.

If the Cowboys are supposed to be the "best," then why do they have a General Manager that no one else in the league would even want?

Jerry Jones is to the GM position what Quincy Carter was to QB.

Now, present a previously presented case study on winning percentages both in regular and post season with a business model that DID employ an owner/GM model for organization. Those stats are BETTER than league averages at both levels of play....

 

[CCBoy]

Yes, it can.

Not saying it does every time, but saying "it cannot paint a complete picture" is false.

Then you better go educate the Sole Higher Being...as he allowed the development both of language, and a message. There is NO Eleventh Commandment that a one sentence is Divine.

Sorry, there are TEN COMMANDMENTS.

 

[slomoxn]

Since generalization is chosen for substantiation, then please expand in similar fashion on the topic of Donald Trump. Successful or not?

What if he doesn't care about the don enough to want to research him.

 

[slomoxn]

Whatever the case may be, Jerry just stated himself that he should fire the GM, thing is he will never fire himself so we are stuck with himself. Here is the conundrum, it appears he is letting someone else build the team these days. He hasn't traded for any players that he is the only one that thinks will help them, the team is getting younger with people that actually care about winning and are working towards winning and he hasn't made any *** signings of players for high priced salaries and mediocre play. I do believe he is our ultimate problem as he is the only constant of 17 years of befuddlement but maybe, just maybe he is learning to just stay out of the way enough for the team to actually build a future. Who knows, I still expect him to make a stupid move sooner or later but since I know he is prone to do things like that I am no longer shocked or upset. It comes with the territory now so I can take it.

 

[Zordon]

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