Let's get something straight about the 75 yd. TD

[Redball Express]

I think when we want to discuss DAK and Cooper freelancing plays..

and Linehan being a bumbling dope as OC..

We are way off base.

When they changed that 75 yatd TD play on the fly..

the very reason it worked was because we had run those routes so many times..

the defense was setup for it.

They kept biting on the turnin routes and then..

Boom.

75 yard TD untouched.

So dump on Linehan if you want.

But his playcalling setup that play regardless of who you want to praise.

Me..?

I praise the Iggles DB who bought the route as a turn in route and waved Bub Bye to Cooper.

You cannot surgically dissect the play without understanding what made it work in the first place.

It was all the plays leading up to it.



Comments?

 

[viman96]

So the ol Rope a Dope!

 

[renny]

I think when we want to discuss DAK and Cooper freelancing plays..

and Linehan being a bumbling dope as OC..

We are way off base.

When they changed that 75 yatd TD play on the fly..

the very reason it worked was because we had run those routes so many times..

the defense was setup for it.

They kept biting on the turnin routes and then..

Boom.

75 yard TD untouched.

So dump on Linehan if you want.

But his playcalling setup that play regardless of who you want to praise.

Me..?

I praise the Iggles DB who bought the route as a turn in route and waved Bub Bye to Cooper.

You cannot surgically dissect the play without understanding what made it work in the first place.

It was all the plays leading up to it.



Comments?

That's the problem, Linehan should have called the play and it wouldn't be an issue right now. This isn't the only time Linehan has called a bad play at a bad time, all you have to do is look at red zone offense.

 

[Stash]

I think when we want to discuss DAK and Cooper freelancing plays..

and Linehan being a bumbling dope as OC..

We are way off base.

When they changed that 75 yatd TD play on the fly..

the very reason it worked was because we had run those routes so many times..

the defense was setup for it.

They kept biting on the turnin routes and then..

Boom.

75 yard TD untouched.

So dump on Linehan if you want.

But his playcalling setup that play regardless of who you want to praise.

Me..?

I praise the Iggles DB who bought the route as a turn in route and waved Bub Bye to Cooper.

You cannot surgically dissect the play without understanding what made it work in the first place.

It was all the plays leading up to it.



Comments?

How does this change the fact that the players had to override the same boring, predictable play that the "dope" of an offensively coordinator was perfectly content to run once again?

 

[Stash]

That's the problem, Linehan should have called the play and it wouldn't be an issue right now. This isn't the only time Linehan has called a bad play at a bad time, all you have to do is look at red zone offense.

Exactly. If you're so bad at your job that's the players have to essentially mutiny on the field for things to succeed, it's a job you shouldn't have.

 

[pugilist]

Linehan gets credit for nothing because the fact remains.. the original play called commanded come back routes which the eagles' secondary were squatting on all night

if not for the audible then we probably punt

i highly doubt the plan was to lull the eagles' DBs for 3 quarters only to surprise them in crunch time

 

[Redball Express]

So the ol Rope a Dope!

No.

It's about people wanting to point fingers and not seeing the whole picture.

Sometimes happen for a clear reason.

Sometimes it's foggy.

But human nature always want to attach blame to events or create a reason why?

Cause and effect.

Sometimes there are multiple causes.

This is an example.

 

[Redball Express]

Linehan gets credit for nothing because the fact remains.. the original play called commanded come back routes which the eagles' secondary were squatting on all night

if not for the audible then we probably punt

i highly doubt the plan was to lull the eagles' DBs for 3 quarters only to surprise them in crunch time

Got ya.

You seem to not be a Big Picture Guy.

No problem.

That's why I'm here.

 

[SoupcanSam]

I think when we want to discuss DAK and Cooper freelancing plays..

and Linehan being a bumbling dope as OC..

We are way off base.

When they changed that 75 yatd TD play on the fly..

the very reason it worked was because we had run those routes so many times..

the defense was setup for it.

They kept biting on the turnin routes and then..

Boom.

75 yard TD untouched.

So dump on Linehan if you want.

But his playcalling setup that play regardless of who you want to praise.

Me..?

I praise the Iggles DB who bought the route as a turn in route and waved Bub Bye to Cooper.

You cannot surgically dissect the play without understanding what made it work in the first place.

It was all the plays leading up to it.



Comments?

I never knew defending linehan existed in this whole entire world.

This is news to me

 

[Kage]

He does get blame, if he was setting it up, you have to eventually call the go route.

You can't just set it up all day.

 

[conner01]

How does this change the fact that the players had to override the same boring, predictable play that the "dope" of an offensively coordinator was perfectly content to run once again?

Yep
I get setting up a guy with routes but as soon as the defender starts sitting on those routes you then go after them
Linehan doesn’t take advantage as soon as possible. He just keeps doing it for that one shot
Cooper figured out the defender was prime to go after and he was right

 

[EST_1986]

Sounds like one massive excuse for the bumbling idiot.

 

[CowboysRule]

I don't see why it's such a big deal that Dak changed a route. QB's call audibles all the time. You need to be able to adjust at the line based on what the defense is showing.

 

[Cowboyz88]

Romo woulda thrown it better.

 

[Stash]

Yep
I get setting up a guy with routes but as soon as the defender starts sitting on those routes you then go after them
Linehan doesn’t take advantage as soon as possible. He just keeps doing it for that one shot
Cooper figured out the defender was prime to go after and he was right

Succeeding despite the offensive coordinator, not because of him.

 

[Redball Express]

Exactly. If you're so bad at your job that's the players have to essentially mutiny on the field for things to succeed, it's a job you shouldn't have.

Mutiny?

You mean like George Patton mutiny about wanting to be the first to enter Germany before the Russians and he took it upon himself to move his Army into Germany on the pretext the orders were garbled?

Turned out OK but it was not a Mutiny.

It was Field generals taking initiative.

Like DAK and Cooper.

 

[DogFace]

So the ol Rope a Dope!

The rope rope rope rope rope rope...a dope

 

[Stash]

Mutiny?

You mean like George Patton mutiny about wanting to be the first to enter Germany before the Russians and he took it upon himself to move his Army into Germany on the pretext the orders were garbled?

Turned out OK but it was not a Mutiny.

It was Field generals taking initiative.

Like DAK and Cooper.

Argue semantics if you want, it doesn't change the fact that the play succeeded because the players took it upon themselves to change the play from the same predictable call the coordinator wanted to make.

There's nothing "off base" at all.

 

[ShiningStar]

some good plays vs throwing it 3 times in the red zone while ignoring the fact you have the RB in the league. Stop defendind the mediocrity. Plain and simple.

We have bigger problems with Lnehan than the few good plays he asks of the players.

 

[marchetta]

I think when we want to discuss DAK and Cooper freelancing plays..

and Linehan being a bumbling dope as OC..

We are way off base.

When they changed that 75 yatd TD play on the fly..

the very reason it worked was because we had run those routes so many times..

the defense was setup for it.

They kept biting on the turnin routes and then..

Boom.

75 yard TD untouched.

So dump on Linehan if you want.

But his playcalling setup that play regardless of who you want to praise.

Me..?

I praise the Iggles DB who bought the route as a turn in route and waved Bub Bye to Cooper.

You cannot surgically dissect the play without understanding what made it work in the first place.

It was all the plays leading up to it.



Comments?

The problem is, Linehan didn't call the play. If it were up to Linehan, Coop would've run another curl route. It would be all together different if it were Linehan who called the go route after setting the D up with curls all game, but he didn't. Which shows his incompetence. It's like we run Zeke on 1st down continually all game long, and then on the rare occasion that we're going to pass on 1st down, instead of running play action, we empty the backfield. I've seen Linehan do this repeatedly, which is beyond stupid.