Let's Have us a Dynasty Debate

[ABQCOWBOY]

That's what you get when you water down sports leagues by overexpansion. I think it was the '84 Finals, Lakers v. Celtics, where you had a combined 10 Hall of Fame players and two Hall of Fame coaches and a host of great bench players on rosters that went 10 or 11 deep. That won't happen again.

Unfortunatly, I think you are probably right. Really a shame too. That's the best basketball I ever saw. It will never come again and that's a real shame.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The 84-85 Squades had the following on there rosters.

CELTICS

General Manager Red Aurbach *
Head Coach KC Jones *

Larry Bird *
Dennis Johnson +
Robert Parish *
Kevin McHale *
Gerald Henderson
Cornbread Maxwell
Scott Wedman
Danny Ainge
Quinn Buckner
ML Carr
Carlos Clark
Greg Kite
Rick Carlisle
Ray Williams

* Hall of Famers
+ Should be in the Hall

Los Angeles Lakers

General Manager Jerry West *
Head Coach Pat Riley *

Kareem Adbul-Jabbar *
Magic Johnson *
James Worthy *
Byron Scott
Mike McGee
Michael Cooper
Bob McAdoo *
Larry Spriggs
Jamal Wilkes +
Mitch Kupcak
Kurt Rambis
Ronnie Lester
Chuck Nevitt
Earl Jones

* Hall of Famers
+ Should be in the Hall


To me, these were the best collective rosters for both teams.


In 82-83, the Celtics had "Tiny" Archibald on the team, who was also a Hall of Fame player, but they did not have Dennis Johnson. In 85-86, they picked up Bill Walton, another HOF player, but they lost Carr, Henderson and Maxwell.

In 82-83, the Lakers had Norm Nixon, who was also a great player but they didn't have Scott. 85-86, the Lakers picked up A.C. Green and Maurice Lucas but they lost Bob McAdoo. In 86-87, the Lakers added Mychael Thompson and Billy Thompson. This could have been the Lakers best team also but again, you don't have McAdoo who could score at will. To me, 84-85 was the best collective team for both squades.

 

[Danny White]

Believe it or not, Pat Riley is not in the Hall of Fame yet.

I'm sure he will be there someday, but he isn't yet.

 

[Mavs Man]

Believe it or not, Pat Riley is not in the Hall of Fame yet.

I'm sure he will be there someday, but he isn't yet.

I know, but he's a lock. I was including players/coaches who were, would be, will be or should be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

It's a crime that Dennis Johnson is not yet in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Mavs Man]

The 84-85 Squades had the following on there rosters.

CELTICS

General Manager Red Aurbach *
Head Coach KC Jones *

Larry Bird *
Dennis Johnson +
Robert Parish *
Kevin McHale *
Gerald Henderson
Cornbread Maxwell
Scott Wedman
Danny Ainge
Quinn Buckner
ML Carr
Carlos Clark
Greg Kite
Rick Carlisle
Ray Williams

* Hall of Famers
+ Should be in the Hall

Los Angeles Lakers

General Manager Jerry West *
Head Coach Pat Riley *

Kareem Adbul-Jabbar *
Magic Johnson *
James Worthy *
Byron Scott
Mike McGee
Michael Cooper
Bob McAdoo *
Larry Spriggs
Jamal Wilkes +
Mitch Kupcak
Kurt Rambis
Ronnie Lester
Chuck Nevitt
Earl Jones

* Hall of Famers
+ Should be in the Hall


To me, these were the best collective rosters for both teams.


In 82-83, the Celtics had "Tiny" Archibald on the team, who was also a Hall of Fame player, but they did not have Dennis Johnson. In 85-86, they picked up Bill Walton, another HOF player, but they lost Carr, Henderson and Maxwell.

In 82-83, the Lakers had Norm Nixon, who was also a great player but they didn't have Scott. 85-86, the Lakers picked up A.C. Green and Maurice Lucas but they lost Bob McAdoo. In 86-87, the Lakers added Mychael Thompson and Billy Thompson. This could have been the Lakers best team also but again, you don't have McAdoo who could score at will. To me, 84-85 was the best collective team for both squades.

It's amazing how many current coaches/GMs are on that last.

Unfortunately, based on their success that doesn't mean they necessarily should be.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I know, but he's a lock. I was including players/coaches who were, would be, will be or should be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

It's a crime that Dennis Johnson is not yet in the Hall of Fame.

I think both Wilkes and Johnson should both have been inducted into the Hall of Fame long ago.

Danny, your right. Riley is not yet in the hall of fame. He will be, without question, but he's not yet.