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Ok, Are the Cowboys seriously looking at WR depth or is the tuna playing head games with the Wr's.
There is a couple of decent to good WRs on the market that could make a difference. I'd explore sending away, Al Singleton or maybe even Greg Ellis to the Raiders for Jerry Porter or to the Broncos for Ashlie Lelie. Either one of these would bring in youth and experience that the Cowboys have needed at Wr for some time. the WR corps could be awesome this year if they stay healthy.

WR depth: Glenn, Owen, Porter/Lelie Crayton.
 

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We are not getting rid of Greg Ellis this year. I am not saying this in a rude manner but people need to get that idea out of their heads.

We are not looking for a #1 or #2 WR right now when we have Terry Glenn and Owens on the roster.

So Porter and Lelie are probably off the list.

If we trade for a player we will probably be trading some of our lower level to mid level extras that we have too many at in a specific position (ala LB) for another teams lower level to mid level players that another has an abundace of in a position. These players will have EXP/playing time in the NFL but will not be big name starters/stars.

Our higher level players for another teams higher level players (ellis for Porter)...I just don't see that happening.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
We are not getting rid of Greg Ellis this year. I am not saying this in a rude manner but people need to get that idea out of their heads.

We are not looking for a #1 or #2 WR right now when we have Terry Glenn and Owens on the roster.

So Porter and Lelie are probably off the list.

If we trade for a player we will probably be trading some of our lower level to mid level extras that we have too many at in a specific position (ala LB) for another teams lower level to mid level players that another has an abundace of in a position. These players will have EXP/playing time in the NFL but will not be big name starters/stars.

Our higher level players for another teams higher level players (ellis for Porter)...I just don't see that happening.
exactly.. and I dont wanna get rid of Ellis.. I am excited about seeing him in this new role.. people are gonna be let down if they are expecting a big trade.. it's gonna be more along the lines of a Scott Shanle for Ronald Curry (who?? precisely) type of trade..
 

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Exactly why would we sign another "big" name reciever without seeing how Hurd responds to full competion? I think we are more in line to find someone to push Green for a spot IMO.
 

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EMMITTnROY said:
exactly.. and I dont wanna get rid of Ellis.. I am excited about seeing him in this new role.. people are gonna be let down if they are expecting a big trade.. it's gonna be more along the lines of a Scott Shanle for Ronald Curry (who?? precisely) type of trade..

That is the type of trade I am talking about...and one I would welcome, although I have no idea how he is on ST.

I think we need to keep that in mind when talking about possibly WRs we may trade for, do they have any EXP on STs.
 

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What would be perfect is a Peerless Price-type who could take being inactive for weeks at a time as Coach Parcells does his weekly roster massage.

Bethel Johnson might be a good alternative from New Orleans and he would probably be acquired for one of our backup linebackers
 

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I'm pretty sure Ashley Lelie wouldn't want to come to Dallas. He is upset that Denver brought in Javon Walker which effectively removes his chance to be the Bronco's #1 receiver. He was upset at the Broncos when they looked at TO in the offseason.

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Lelie's future is unsettled. Lelie wants to be a No. 1 receiver and is convinced he'll never be one in Denver. He became upset with the Broncos' offseason interest in Terrell Owens and skipped offseason workouts, asking to be traded.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
We are not getting rid of Greg Ellis this year. I am not saying this in a rude manner but people need to get that idea out of their heads.

We are not looking for a #1 or #2 WR right now when we have Terry Glenn and Owens on the roster.

So Porter and Lelie are probably off the list.

If we trade for a player we will probably be trading some of our lower level to mid level extras that we have too many at in a specific position (ala LB) for another teams lower level to mid level players that another has an abundace of in a position. These players will have EXP/playing time in the NFL but will not be big name starters/stars.

Our higher level players for another teams higher level players (ellis for Porter)...I just don't see that happening.


I agree Ellis has been nuthin but stellar with the cowboys, The cowboys seem to be heavy at the LB position, Singleton is not over the hill yet but looking to be a backup, Ellis wants to be traded, by all accounts he's got the LB positon figured out, but its only the 2nd week of TC and the cowboys are loaded with good LB's.

The Cowboys really do miss having a keyshawn Johnson around. One injury to TO or Glenn and the cowboys chances of a playoff / superbowl run will take a serious blow. Sam Hurd might be the man but a rookie in TC annointed as starter and cliaming him as the key to WR depth is a long shot

but with WR depth like Glenn, Crayton, Hurd (no TO) the running game will be non-existance (8man fronts) and Bledsoe will be setting duck

I like Ellis, but I do believe and for along time now the Cowboys have lacked depth at WR,
 

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When Parcells sys he's going to have a couple teams look at our players while we look at theirs he's talking about guys we may end up cutting to trade for guys they may end up cutting, bottom of the roster guys in other words.
 

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Bigdog24 said:
The Cowboys really do miss having a keyshawn Johnson around. One injury to TO or Glenn and the cowboys chances of a playoff / superbowl run will take a serious blow. Sam Hurd might be the man but a rookie in TC annointed as starter and cliaming him as the key to WR depth is a long shot

Take a look around the league. Not many teams could lose a front-line starting WR of the calibre of Glenn or Owens and make a Super Bowl run. If you have good veteran talent in third receiver roles, chances are they are egoless or you have a headache, as the Broncos and Raiders are experiencing right now.

We do need veteran depth. But it doesn't have to be top of the line, best your money can buy depth. That simply doesn't happen very often. We spent a million on Price as insurance and due to circumstances, he barely saw the field. I am not so certain we would do that again with players like Lelie or Porter, who would cost significantly more. That's why Keyshawn Johnson is not here. He wanted starter money. And who thinks he would be willing to sit on the bench?

Your best shot to having quality depth is to homegrow it or draft it. We will get a WR very high next year, I am almost certain of it.

I like Ellis, but I do believe and for along time now the Cowboys have lacked depth at WR,

Even if the guinea pig wasn't doing well, what could we get for him?

There just are not big name trade options at WR that would fit what we need.
 

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i don't think we are looking for that type of wr. i don't see us intersted in any of these top guys. i think it's more about warm bodies for camp
 

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NFL Rumors & Notes by Ben Maller 08/10/06... (3 'boys blurbs)

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Dallas could enter the mix for Broncos wide receiver Ashley Lelie, a holdout. Cowboys coach Bill Parcells told reporters Wednesday his team is interested in acquiring a receiver. Lelie is one of the top wideouts available. Chicago and Philadelphia have shown recent interest in Lelie, who has amassed $196,000 in fines for missing training camp.
 

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Ok Folks. Let's review

In Fantasy Football you can have Glenn, Owens, and Lelie on the same team.

In real NFL Football one of them is going to be very very unhappy because he isn't going to get the ball.

Is this enough of a review?
 

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abersonc said:
Ok Folks. Let's review

In Fantasy Football you can have Glenn, Owens, and Lelie on the same team.

In real NFL Football one of them is going to be very very unhappy because he isn't going to get the ball.

Is this enough of a review?

Not to mention I doubt Jerry is going to have 3 highly paid WR. Dallas has already invested a lot of cash at this position.
 

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Bigdog24 said:
Ok, Are the Cowboys seriously looking at WR depth or is the tuna playing head games with the Wr's.
There is a couple of decent to good WRs on the market that could make a difference. I'd explore sending away, Al Singleton or maybe even Greg Ellis to the Raiders for Jerry Porter or to the Broncos for Ashlie Lelie. Either one of these would bring in youth and experience that the Cowboys have needed at Wr for some time. the WR corps could be awesome this year if they stay healthy.

WR depth: Glenn, Owen, Porter/Lelie Crayton.
Just for the sake of argument let's say we are looking at WR.

Porter is unhappy in Oakland.

Lelie is unhappy in Denver.


Do you really think they'd leave #2 positions there, come to a #3 position here, and be giddy?
 

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Do you really think they'd leave #2 positions there, come to a #3 position here, and be giddy?

I think some folks assume that players want to be in Dallas so badly that all that stuff goes out the window. Sure. I'd love to be catching balls behind Owens, Glenn, and Witten while playing in an offense where the coach wants to run over 50% of the time.
 

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I think BP indicated in his press conference that he was looking for more wide recievers so he wouldn't have to run the ones he has "into the ground". Injuries are more likely to occur when players are fatigued. I think he is looking for camp bodies, not disgruntled would-be starters.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
We are not getting rid of Greg Ellis this year. I am not saying this in a rude manner but people need to get that idea out of their heads.

We are not looking for a #1 or #2 WR right now when we have Terry Glenn and Owens on the roster.

So Porter and Lelie are probably off the list.

If we trade for a player we will probably be trading some of our lower level to mid level extras that we have too many at in a specific position (ala LB) for another teams lower level to mid level players that another has an abundace of in a position. These players will have EXP/playing time in the NFL but will not be big name starters/stars.

Our higher level players for another teams higher level players (ellis for Porter)...I just don't see that happening.

normally i'd have agreed, but then i saw this:

Dallas could enter the mix for Broncos wide receiver Ashley Lelie, a holdout. Cowboys coach Bill Parcells told reporters Wednesday his team is interested in acquiring a receiver. Lelie is one of the top wideouts available. Chicago and Philadelphia have shown recent interest in Lelie, who has amassed $196,000 in fines for missing training camp.

i'd love to see us snag lelie but i'd rather we'd have gotten javon walker when we had the chance.
 

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you're just as bad as some Skins fans on ES, why in the world would you want to trade for another WR, let alone one who thinks he's a #1 and wants crazy $?

your core is solid, the depth is there, leave it alone mannnn
 
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